Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[Nielsen]

This morning I bought the V6 Clio and played around with various cars on the Nordschleife for a couple of hours. Got £5k from a 4 star ticket.

Then made the mistake of loading up GT sport so I could enjoy the MR2 and boy did I regret it. You quickly realise how much more enjoyable and realistic the handling is in sport. The cars aren't on a knife edge like in 7. Yes 7 keeps you on your toes, but let's not pretend it's realistic, as anybody with real world track experience will know.

Gt7 is a seriously lacking package but can be enjoyed mostly, just don't go back to sport.

I still cannot wrap my head around why they decided to change GT Sport physics and tires so dramatically. That game felt on point right out of the box, but GT7 still feels uncomfortable despite having played it pretty much on a daily basis for a month now.

 

[Johnnn]

I still cannot wrap my head around why they decided to change GT Sport physics and tires so dramatically. That game felt on point right out of the box, but GT7 still feels uncomfortable despite having played it pretty much on a daily basis for a month now.

It's a part of the fun. It's like roulette, non-sense car prices, no payouts and many other stuff. They wanted emotions.

 

[snowgt]

Can somebody tell me when an expired invitation finally vanishes? Mine expired on March 24 and it's still shown as if I have an "active" one...

 

[Magog]

That was kind of my point. Why not? Aquaplaning in the dip between Paddock Hill and Pilgrims Rise would be at least as much fun as aquaplaning along the Red Bull start/finish straight🤣. I can understand not bothering with rain at Willow Springs, it doesn't look like it's rained there for about 300 years, or Laguna Seca, but Brands? It's England, on the wrong day it p1sses down! Goodwood is literally 8 miles away and I can assure you, it can get pretty moist there too! I just think they've missed a trick but not offering wet racing at more circuits.

If Kaz says it doesn't rain in the south of England it doesn't rain in the south of England. They have said their weather model is meant to mimmick the real life style of rain and clouds for an area. Maybe there just hasn't been enough cloudy days for them to acquire the necessary data.

 

[asifzk]

Thanks to the guy yesterday (think it was Eraserhead guy) for the tip!
I bought 10 x Go karts @ 10,000k for the trophy! I made them all different colours to make my absolutely futile exercise a bit more interesting.

 

[Magog]

I still cannot wrap my head around why they decided to change GT Sport physics and tires so dramatically. That game felt on point right out of the box, but GT7 still feels uncomfortable despite having played it pretty much on a daily basis for a month now.

What? Are you actually saying you think the physics and tire models are better in Sport? 7 is a huge step forward. They changed them to make them better and more realistic. You now actually have to properly tune your cars to maximize mechanical grip. There isn't a single car that feels uncontrollable or uncomfortable in the game when properly tuned.

 

[MagpieRacer]

What? Are you actually saying you think the physics and tire models are better in Sport? 7 is a huge step forward. They changed them to make them better and more realistic. You now actually have to properly tune your cars to maximize mechanical grip. There isn't a single car that feels uncontrollable or uncomfortable in the game when properly tuned.

But they're not right stock. Fact. 7 should be better than Sport and it is in most areas but that doesn''t mean it doesn't have issues. Cars shouldn't have to be tuned properly to drive the way they should anyway.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

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[NikNakTobasco]

But they're not right stock. Fact. 7 should be better than Sport and it is in most areas but that doesn''t mean it doesn't have issues. Cars should have to be tuned properly to drive the way they should anyway.

A pretty big problem when we’ve got BOP dailies.

 

[Magog]

But they're not right stock. Fact. 7 should be better than Sport and it is in most areas but that doesn''t mean it doesn't have issues. Cars should have to be tuned properly to drive the way they should anyway.

Which cars? If we are talking race cars every racing team tunes each car before each race. If you don't have those skills learn them. If we are talking road cars they perform as I would expect them to.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Which cars? If we are talking race cars every racing team tunes each car before each race. If you don't have those skills learn them. If we are talking road cars they perform as I would expect them to.

So you're talking specifically racecars and if they drive like crap then we should learn how to tune, you're aware this is a game? Plus a lot of the road cars (which there many of in Gran Turismo) have glaring flaws as described and proven at some great length in the physics thread.

 

[MagpieRacer]

A pretty big problem when we’ve got BOP dailies.

Exactly. I should clarify in my post it should have said "shouldn't need tuning". So yes, the BoP races make the whole tune to be good argument void. There are many flaws in the logic of the physics than can't be fixed with tuning as well.

 

[Magog]

So you're talking specifically racecars and if they drive like crap then we should learn how to tune, you're aware this is a game? Plus a lot of the road cars (which there many of in Gran Turismo) have glaring flaws as described and proven at some great length in the physics thread.

It's a game about racing. Tuning is a big part of that. The best F1 drivers are the ones that can give feedback about the cars so the engineers can perfect them. As far as people saying things in the physics thread that's just people giving their opinions. They haven't proven anything.

 

[samppa_944]

It's a game about racing. Tuning is a big part of that. The best F1 drivers are the ones that can give feedback about the cars so the engineers can perfect them. As far as people saying things in the physics thread that's just people giving their opinions. They haven't proven anything.

But if the default setup is crap in bop, RIP 💀 Look at where Ford is after N24 in manuf. standings, 24/26. I looked at some of the scores in Ford standings, and spotted a few familiar names. No one scored like they are suppose to, including myself, default setup on GT is horrible, just a fact.

But yes, you get it sorted out for GT when tuning is on.

 

[elston87]

Nostalgia for sure. Well, we can always just change the oil anyway for those nostalgic purposes.

Several pages late to the reply chain, but GT7 no longer gives you a small HP boost, something that's been a GT tradition since GT3. First thing I always did after buying a new car or acquiring an F1 car was change its oil for a little boost. This little quirk has been in every mainline GT game since then but it seems to no longer be the case with GT7.

 

[Magog]

But if the default setup is crap in bop, RIP 💀 Look at where Ford is after N24 in manuf. standings, 24/26. I looked at some of the scores in Ford standings, and spotted a few familiar names. No one scored like they are suppose to, including myself, default setup on GT is horrible, just a fact.

But yes, you get it sorted out for GT when tuning is on.

So pick a better car?

 

[MagpieRacer]

It's a game about racing. Tuning is a big part of that. The best F1 drivers are the ones that can give feedback about the cars so the engineers can perfect them. As far as people saying things in the physics thread that's just people giving their opinions. They haven't proven anything.

Evidently not given the past 2 sets of dailies have been BoP and so is the manufacturers cup. You can have the best engineers and F1 drivers in the world all you want, it's worthless if you can't tune, by rule or by knowledge. It also doesn't solve the road cars being massively flawed with on/off snap oversteer and no real slip angles.

 

[Nielsen]

What? Are you actually saying you think the physics and tire models are better in Sport? 7 is a huge step forward. They changed them to make them better and more realistic. You now actually have to properly tune your cars to maximize mechanical grip. There isn't a single car that feels uncontrollable or uncomfortable in the game when properly tuned.

I am, and others are as well. I find the cars controllable enough without resorting to tuning. The problem is how cars and tires don’t respond in the way I’d expect them to based on real life experience and other simulators I’ve played. So basically I had to adapt to the quirks of GT7, but it doesn’t really feel super intuitive for me.

 

[GTboyz]

I just won this while grinding at Windmills. I have NEVER played online.

 

[Samus]

I guess technically everyone is playing online in this game, although I doubt that was the intention of the trophy.

 

[Nielsen]

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I just won this while grinding at Windmills. I have NEVER played online.

I recently got it too while playing a singleplayer event.

 

[Magog]

I am, and others are as well. I find the cars controllable enough without resorting to tuning. The problem is how cars and tires don’t respond in the way I’d expect them to based on real life experience and other simulators I’ve played. So basically I had to adapt to the quirks of GT7, but it doesn’t really feel super intuitive for me.

People are upgrading cars to 900HP that were designed for 300 and they are surprised when the rear end kicks out. 🤣

 

[Nielsen]

People are upgrading cars to 900HP that were designed for 300 and they are surprised when the rear end kicks out. 🤣

Ok, what does this have to do with what I said?

 

[Magog]

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I just won this while grinding at Windmills. I have NEVER played online.

It's an always online game. You have been playing online this whole time! 😲

 

[cjr3559]

The horrendous non linear throttle from GTS is gone, good riddance.

 

[MagpieRacer]

People are upgrading cars to 900HP that were designed for 300 and they are surprised when the rear end kicks out. 🤣

Apart from when it's not. Why are you unable to accept that there are flaws in the basic physics system? 200bhp GT-86 doesn't instantly snap oversteer in real life in an uncontrollable, impossible to correct manner, it does in GT7, it's counter intuitive, it is flawed. Nothing to do with tuning or driving 900bhp cars, a flawed physics engine and flawed tyre model.

 

[GTboyz]

It's an always online game. You have been playing online this whole time! 😲

The problem is it literally said "Driving with other people online..."

While I'm driving around with an AI.

 

[MagpieRacer]

It's an always online game. You have been playing online this whole time! 😲

"Driving with other players online".

I've done the 13'000km one and I've done 30 online races and haven't even driven 13'000km in the game. The online distance trophies are broken.

On the somewhat positive from that, I only need 4 trophies to unlock platinum.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

Exactly. I should clarify in my post it should have said "shouldn't need tuning". So yes, the BoP races make the whole tune to be good argument void. There are many flaws in the logic of the physics than can't be fixed with tuning as well.

Yeah. A GT3 car should be competitive stock and the tuning element should really only be about adapting to a particular track, to the tune of maybe half a second a lap or so. The situation where it’s literally seconds a lap or makes the car from being not an option whatsoever to the meta car like the R8 at Daytona is completely ridiculous. I can’t see how they can fix this without completely starting again again with the car setups as stock. Tuning dailies is the only route out of the current mess and as someone that doesn’t know or want to learn how to do it (it’s a computer game I’m playing for fun, not part of a industrial engineering degree) I guess I’ll just have to copy the YouTube tunes.

 

[Islaygaz]

"Driving with other players online".

I've done the 13'000km one and I've done 30 online races and haven't even driven 13'000km in the game. The online distance trophies are broken.

On the somewhat positive from that, I only need 4 trophies to unlock platinum.

Yea I’ve done 1 sport mode race (Clio one at Tsukuba) and that’s it, and today got the ‘Going the distance together: the Atlantic’ trophy while doing the WTC700 Championship!