Gran Turismo 7 Physics

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I was never condescending to you.
Where's your guys back bone?

Read your own quote and previous words, your lack of emotional intelligence is quite profound.

I mean seriously, read that one quote that you said and how its meaning doesn't reflect the actual words. Emotional intelligence my friend.

Good for you that you found a solution to your issue. Sweet.
Nevertheless I don't truly believe that you even tried my recommended settings, let alone you even read them.

It's not solved just PD settings are better at minimising than yours. I tried them, they don't work for me because honestly driving an MX 5 with a 4 torque setting is not the level of mechanical feedback you actually get in that car just as an example.

I think you get high on your own supply

Assuming you're using the DD Pro as seen in your pictures or video you posted, I highly question your disagreement on my settings as you clearly are not able to compare apples to pears.
But I can assure you that Torque wise the DD+ set to 4/9 offers quite the same forces and even a bit more as on the DD Pro with 7/9 in game Values

This is a pretty clever misdirect if I'm being honest, I don't need to compare apples to oranges as I'm asking for help with apples so your oranges advice is pretty useless quite frankly.

Assuming you're using the DD Pro as seen in your pictures or video you posted, I highly question your disagreement on my settings as you clearly are not able to compare apples to pears.
But I can assure you that Torque wise the DD+ set to 4/9 offers quite the same forces and even a bit more as on the DD Pro with 7/9 in game Values.
Still, feel free to disagree, fair play.

"Assuming" it's my wheel with a video, a picture a YouTube channel, 3k races using it...

"Assuming" come on be real for fk sake.

The peak torque is there and "assuming"what you are saying is correct I actually run more torque with a higher peak than you do, consistently less overall torque but a higher consistent value. So arguably I need less peak torque that none of us run at :/ dude. Again high on your own supply or hubris.

Edit: being very very candid, whilst it's cool to dissect posts it's pretty bad etiquette to do that and offer nothing of value than just waffle.

I will leave this thread because I can't stomach your replies, they just don't match the tone of the thread or add any value other than "you are right" and "assuming" I'm not even sat in the rig that I got my wife to record the issue I came here with.

Your attitude sucks and the false sense of authority or hubris is quite sad, nearly as much as your settings and I'm not one for back handed insults or being patronising. I'm more than happy to call a spade a spade.

You don't present very well, nor are you endearing or helpful. But on the plus side you know everything. Good job 👍

 

[Scaff]

Yes I just watched it.
Is that a PlaySeat Trophy your Base is attached to?
I have a PlaySeat Trophy and I can confirm that it sounds exactly the same like in your video.
So nothing to worry about other then indeed it makes me wonder how good it is for the internals.
Though I'm not sure if it's just the resonance of the attachment points the base is mounted to.
I might eventually try to put swap the metal washers with some shock absorbing rubber washers... Might be worth a try.
Because I can't imagine that this horrific sounding vibration is actually happening internally.

I've the same rig with a Moza R9 mounted to it, which pushes a Nm of torque above the DD, on no sim at all does it get close to sounding like that.

 

[Kriptical]

Your local car mechanic must have been a pretty familiar face to you, thanks to your assumingly quite often visits for car wishbone and tire maintenance 😁👍

Eventually yeah. I thought it was some sort of H bracket which cracked and needed replacement. Can't remember. Wasn't so bad for tires as it was a hard pack dirt driveway. As for the mechanic, yeah we were friends. His shop was around the corner from mine so they would come get my car whenever stuff needed doing. He was a weekend racer too so he was cool about things. It was a work vehicle and my wife and I the owners. It was my beater, and fun. Not for nothing, this all went on inside 50 acres. Nobody was going to surprise me, or accidentally get in the way. If anything went wrong or I rolled the sucker it was only myself to worry about.

Unless you're doing something weird, that would be your rear tyres, and what we feel through the steering in this regard would be the front tyres and relate to understeer, not oversteer.

If I were to have just jammed on the brakes and slid to a stop...that would have been profoundly sad...and boring... Anyway, the driveway opened up at the top and I would induce slide in all sorts of ways. Often at the end trying to turn just enough to gently break grip and rotate into a 'spot.' Others I would mimic and evasive wheel yank. Whether exploring grip limits, acting like one of the duke boys...or just plain mad..it was an everyday thing so 🤷‍♂️ did it all..it was a decade after all.. The wheels sometimes chattered hard. Not a good feeling, but not that different than what the DDX was doing yesterday. I really did have to try to make it happen though. Lots of load on the tires, yanking it hard. Still, it didn't feel like to much, the sound was unpleasant, jarring, but its kinda supposed to be, no?

As far as the technical explanation, I do appreciate it. Never really bothered with much of that stuff, except for an old skip barber syllabus back in the mid 90s. Its just by feel and for fun..and what I'm saying with the slide thing in GT is that, while imperfect, its done a good job of expressing what's going on. Which I guess can be expressed by stating that my body responds to the FFB and corrects the issue before my eyes and brain notice. Which was happening much less before. Also, in the not for nothing department, almost all of my driving experience's shared here pertain to rear wheel drive, front engine vehicles. Im used to the front being weird. These days, I have an AWD outback. Its completely different, and as much as gt7's is imperfect, it doesn't feel any weirder than going from AWD to RWD..so brain buys it enough and life's good. Prior to the update this largely seemed to only be expressed with weight fluctuation, which isn't always the whole story.