Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.36 Now Available: Adds Four Cars Including GR Corolla
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Like I already said (I don't remember if I did it here or in the "General Discussion" thread)... With updates, a game, ANY game, could even change completely... So let's think how many events they could add, if they only wanted to do. They just don't want to.
The same applies to the addition of new racing cars (for example, we still have the Ferrari 458 GT3, meanwhile in GT3 competitions Ferrari switched first to the 488 and now to the 296... well, I'm not necessarily asking for the 296, but at least the 488!)
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Don't forget the 488 Evo. So Ferrari is on their 3rd (technically) GT3 car since the 458.
What I'm currently scratching my head around is Polyphony's deals with Pikes Peak and IMSA. Why do they even have them? Is it to try and stop others from having them for the sake of it? We'll never get PP, IMSA well we have 4 tracks they use and only 3 GT3's currently racing in it.... while Iracing just teased the Acura and Porsche LMDH/GTPs.... while already having the Caddy and BMW.
This is only small scale compared to the dreadful state this game is in compared to past GT games, but if I'm Sony I'd be asking a lot of questions as to what Kaz is up to.
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Issues that I've been already written multiple times. We drive the exact same models in GT3 like in GT Sport. And that for a high priced game like that.
And stop calling the licensing problem as ALL other games got newer cars like Ferrari, at least the 488, the McLaren 720S and others, along with newer road cars too. Even the ACC without that 2023 DLC, the PS4 / XBox One Versions have the 2020 season. That's a three year old championship, having the McLaren 720S GT3, the Evo Lamobos, Evo2 Audis, Ferrari 488 GT3... Doesn't matter which game you take, there are always a newer car list than GT7. And then for much more money than the other games...
So licensing these cars ISN'T the problem. Same as modeling and stuff, they just don't do nothing as long as they are happy about enough players pay for the game and the micro transactions for highly overpriced cars. By the way. Once you bought ACC for example, you can drive ALL the cars without buying ot paying for one...
If all that would be a licensing problem or modelling for the game, the others games should have the same problems too as they have much lower budgets and smaller development teams. But they still got newer cars and you don't have to pay so much money too...
It's all about greed and earning as much money from the player base as much as they can. That's all. And as long as people keep playing the game, they have no pressure to change that...
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If polyphony haven’t agreed a new price or terms for the image rights to Ferraris new cars then that is due to lisensing.
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If ACC does so many things better in your opinion, I wonder why do you waste your precious time posting here instead of playing ACC ?
If I don't like a game, I don't play it and play something I like more...
For example, I don't care so much about cars that have been built after 2000(with some exceptions of course...), so if there wouldn't be cars from before 2000 in GT, I would look for a game that has such cars, but I wouldn't be in a GT forum complaining that there is no older cars here-especially then, when ALL other games had the cars I like...
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Only if you think one game getting a licence for a car means all games can have it... which is such a bizarre thing to think.
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If someone wants to race GT3 cars go play ACC. I don't understand people trying to force GT to be something it's never claimed to be. The emphasis (esp in Daily Races) on "GT3/4" cars is already far far too much.
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Or, as @jonoholland29 pointed out, thinking a game developer having a license for a specific set of cars from a manufacturer somehow means that one can replicate everything that ever existed in that manufacturer's lineup.
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Or it could be the case that even PD doesn’t have enough money in the piggy bank for some of these cars. It’s not like they don’t have a few hundred cars in the game or anything
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The only reason they have a so called "partnership" with IMSA is to have things like the Vasser Sullivan livery or the weather tech and IMSA branding on tracks like Road Atlanta. They have no bearing on who else can use IMSA material. Now Pikes Peak is a different story and one to scratch our heads on. For years it's been wasted and a lost opportunity.
While it's not for everyone, I've seen more discussion about the ambulance online, than pretty much any other DLC car. Neither is one thing in place of another. We already know PD have talked about Endurance races. I have no idea why they still aren't here, but there where similar discussions about selling used cars. When it arrived it was far more in-depth than expected. Of course, you can argue whether that added any value over a basic 'Sell Car' option. But I very much hope PD put's real thought into endurance events and allows things like AI driver changes.
I don't think the general player, particularly those focused on single-player, really care about lobbies. Daily races and Time Trials are far more enticing. Better still would be if PD introduced a hopper race where you can jump in and experience different cars & tracks without worrying about driver ratings.
But that's the point, many of these titles that have teased new Hypercars & GTP's haven't yet released them. For all we know the 963 could be coming to GT7 next month (or not
). What I would say is the modelling of these new cars on iRacing is reminiscent of something PD would do 10+ years ago. I realise that's not the focus of iRacing, but when these cars do come to GT7, I want them to be replicated in perfect detail. Something that requires huge amounts of refence material & CAD data.Recent DLC releases have seen an increasing number of 2020 onwards models. Admittedly, most have been road cars, but I'd be very surprised if PD don't have a decent upcoming selection of more modern race cars. Back in GTS people wanted classic JDM road cars & supercars, now the pendulum has switched to modern race cars.
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My uncle used to race a Lotus 23B. The funny thing is, tons of companies would come around giving away free t shirts, hats or bags you name it. My dad said it was great he couldn’t remember the last time he had to buy shirts or hats, free advertising for these companies. This would have been in the late 60’s or early 70’s if I remember correctly. I find it odd how things changed and now if you want an NGK t shirt, which advertises for NGK, you’re buying it. You’re essentially giving the company money to advertise for them. I just used NGK as an example, substitute NIKE or whatever brand.
You would think companies would WANT their cars in the game considering the amount of people playing Gran Turismo. You’d think that would give PD some kind of leverage but perhaps it doesn’t.
GT Legends somehow got around it by doing vintage race cars on modern tracks or something like that. Anyway it seems crazy to me how the tables have turned. Like Rick Beato’s what makes this song great, some artists (labels) flag the video and it gets demonetized because they think he’s making money off their backs. In a way he is, but he’s also advertising their music for them and introducing them to a younger generation as well.
You would think companies would WANT their cars in the game considering the amount of people playing Gran Turismo. You’d think that would give PD some kind of leverage but perhaps it doesn’t.
GT Legends somehow got around it by doing vintage race cars on modern tracks or something like that. Anyway it seems crazy to me how the tables have turned. Like Rick Beato’s what makes this song great, some artists (labels) flag the video and it gets demonetized because they think he’s making money off their backs. In a way he is, but he’s also advertising their music for them and introducing them to a younger generation as well.
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Guys, talking about adding new events, new tracks, new cars, etc. I was quite hasty, I simplified a lot... I'll try to argue better now.
In regards to new events, in truth it seems to me that there is little to add to what I have already said: perhaps it's the only issue on which we are all quite in agreement. There are so many new events they could add, the only thing they have to look after is not to give the events names that would lead to licensing issues (so, for example, they can't add an event called "Le Mans 24H", because Motorsport Games has the license for his Le Mans Ultimate). But other than that, they really could add a little bit of everything.
A clarification: yes, I admit it, I pay more attention to events with racing cars (Gr. 1, Gr. 2 which by the way is inexplicably "forgotten", Gr. 3 and Gr. 4), both because for me Gran Turismo it is more of a racing game than a driving game, and also because Polyphony Digital itself has gradually hinted that the series is destined to go more in that direction, especially from GT Sport onwards. The addition of such particular cars (such as the Toyota HiMedic) or tracks quite far from the most common idea of a racing track (such as the Grand Valley Highway), are for me on the one hand a tribute to the tradition of the series, which undeniably was NOT born with such great attention only to racing cars and proper tracks, but in another way a "digression". Sometimes I think: "What the heck PD, make a decision ... What do you really want to do?". Because I don't understand...
In any case, I'm fine with Polyphony Digital also adding events, cars and tracks that can satisfy those users who love different experiences from those with proper racing cars on proper tracks: I would like all of us enthusiasts to be happy when we play this title. Whether it's racing with Gr. 3 at Spa-Francorchamps, or cruising around Tokyo with road cars, or inventing bizarre races with ambulances, or drifting races... So it's true that I would like more "racing" events (in the sense which I explained), but I'm not saying that PD should ONLY add those.
Having said this, however, it is clear that for me, also with regard to the cars to be added, I would like to see more recent racing cars, in the various categories... There is the licensing problem on this, it's true, it's undeniable... But if small software houses (such as Kunos Simulazioni, or KW Studios, formerly known as SimBin and Sector3 Studios, and also Slightly Mad Studios) manage to solve licensing problems, which are usually money problems, we know it... Are we really supposed to believe that PD, which has Sony behind it, can't solve these same problems? Really? Come on...
Also in this case, I repeat... I'm fine with PD also adding cars other than the proper racing ones.
Regarding the tracks, a different story... There may be licensing problems for the real ones (but, as I said before, they could be solved), but for the fictional ones, at least in this sense, one could not try to do something more? There are many classic tracks that we would like to review, obviously suitably updated, adapted to today's graphic standards too... Even tracks that are not really "racing" (for example Circuito de la Sierra, which by the way only appeared in GT6... wasn't it a waste of resources to create it for just one title in the series?).
In conclusion... The meaning of my speech, and I hope you agree with me, beyond the specific preferences that each of us has, which may or may not be shared but which must always be respected... PD could do more, much more, and it's not doing it.
In regards to new events, in truth it seems to me that there is little to add to what I have already said: perhaps it's the only issue on which we are all quite in agreement. There are so many new events they could add, the only thing they have to look after is not to give the events names that would lead to licensing issues (so, for example, they can't add an event called "Le Mans 24H", because Motorsport Games has the license for his Le Mans Ultimate). But other than that, they really could add a little bit of everything.
A clarification: yes, I admit it, I pay more attention to events with racing cars (Gr. 1, Gr. 2 which by the way is inexplicably "forgotten", Gr. 3 and Gr. 4), both because for me Gran Turismo it is more of a racing game than a driving game, and also because Polyphony Digital itself has gradually hinted that the series is destined to go more in that direction, especially from GT Sport onwards. The addition of such particular cars (such as the Toyota HiMedic) or tracks quite far from the most common idea of a racing track (such as the Grand Valley Highway), are for me on the one hand a tribute to the tradition of the series, which undeniably was NOT born with such great attention only to racing cars and proper tracks, but in another way a "digression". Sometimes I think: "What the heck PD, make a decision ... What do you really want to do?". Because I don't understand...
In any case, I'm fine with Polyphony Digital also adding events, cars and tracks that can satisfy those users who love different experiences from those with proper racing cars on proper tracks: I would like all of us enthusiasts to be happy when we play this title. Whether it's racing with Gr. 3 at Spa-Francorchamps, or cruising around Tokyo with road cars, or inventing bizarre races with ambulances, or drifting races... So it's true that I would like more "racing" events (in the sense which I explained), but I'm not saying that PD should ONLY add those.
Having said this, however, it is clear that for me, also with regard to the cars to be added, I would like to see more recent racing cars, in the various categories... There is the licensing problem on this, it's true, it's undeniable... But if small software houses (such as Kunos Simulazioni, or KW Studios, formerly known as SimBin and Sector3 Studios, and also Slightly Mad Studios) manage to solve licensing problems, which are usually money problems, we know it... Are we really supposed to believe that PD, which has Sony behind it, can't solve these same problems? Really? Come on...
Also in this case, I repeat... I'm fine with PD also adding cars other than the proper racing ones.
Regarding the tracks, a different story... There may be licensing problems for the real ones (but, as I said before, they could be solved), but for the fictional ones, at least in this sense, one could not try to do something more? There are many classic tracks that we would like to review, obviously suitably updated, adapted to today's graphic standards too... Even tracks that are not really "racing" (for example Circuito de la Sierra, which by the way only appeared in GT6... wasn't it a waste of resources to create it for just one title in the series?).
In conclusion... The meaning of my speech, and I hope you agree with me, beyond the specific preferences that each of us has, which may or may not be shared but which must always be respected... PD could do more, much more, and it's not doing it.
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...if they don't want to pay the i
Because I am a father, and while I play just an hour or so every few days, my son plays GT7 every day. I wrote that so many times, funny how people just read one sentence and forget the rest.
I like to see what people are doing with the game by themselves. Like me doing that whole GTWC experience for my son with all liveries and stuff. And taking some ideas out of here to improve that as much as I can. And I already took some great ideas from here to do that, like in other threads already written, still thanks to a lot of really smart people improving the experience for them, or in my case, for my son.
I don't know if you are a father, but to see my son happy is way more important for me than playing by myself. And I guess that's what every father will do for his kids.
So stop being offended just because others, like me, don't like your favorite game.
issues are kot with licensing but them being too greedy to pay for that as other games like I
Because I am a father, and while I play just an hour or so every few days, my son plays GT7 every day. I wrote that so many times, funny how people just read one sentence and forget the rest.
I like to see what people are doing with the game by themselves. Like me doing that whole GTWC experience for my son with all liveries and stuff. And taking some ideas out of here to improve that as much as I can. And I already took some great ideas from here to do that, like in other threads already written, still thanks to a lot of really smart people improving the experience for them, or in my case, for my son.
I don't know if you are a father, but to see my son happy is way more important for me than playing by myself. And I guess that's what every father will do for his kids.
So stop being offended just because others, like me, don't like your favorite game.
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Regarding the Toyota HiMedic and GR Corolla... what do I need to do with the livestream? Can I watch for five minutes and that counts, or do I have to sit through the entire thing? I’m going out with friends tomorrow and I don’t care about the stream, I just want the cars.
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Nobody is certain, but based on getting the movie-liveried NISMO GT3 for watching for a few seconds of the trailer, what @Famine said should be right. We'll know for certain Monday as I'm planning on watching just a bit on the PS5 today and tomorrow - if I get my HiMedic and engine ticket, then a few seconds was enough. If not, I'll have until 7 pm CDT August 20th to watch the whole thing.
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I am not offended(I was just wondering...) and GT7 is not my favorite game(that would be Fallout New Vegas and RDR2)
And If if makes your son happy, when you post here in GT Planet, then do it...
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I am just searching for ideas that's why I mostly post in the custom race thread. I am trying to improve his experience with the game and make him as happy as I can. (Right now starting a new project for him: a LeMans League)
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Word! That's exactly my point. But people here, especially the Admins giving me warnings for providing facts and evidence about that. Like they feel offended by people criticizing their beloved game.
So I just stopped because I really don't care about this anymore, as I just stopped playing it for months now (like I said, we drive the exact same GT3 models for example like in GT Sport, from 2017...) I just play ACC. But my son loves that game so I still put my efford in this game, reading, taking ideas to improve it for him.
And the graphics, have to be honest, are the best of all racing games right now. It's just sad because everything feels like wasted potential.
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