Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.44 Now Available, Adds Toyota GT-One, Lamborghini Urus, Audi R8

[Ranchero66]

I'll preface this by once again reiterating that I have no history with GT, this is my first game in the series and I only bought it in April 2023. I'm a bit of an outsider in the sense of not being a "GT fan", just someone who has enjoyed this particular game over the last 11 months.

An observation from this perspective: these forums are bonkers at update time.

Every month is the same, we have "predictions" of new tracks, and people almost expecting some fundamental changes to the game, and then the inevitable fallout when none of this happens.

I can't understand where these expectations are coming from? With the exception of Spec 2, every update that I can remember since I started playing has been of a similar structure: a few cars, a few new events, and an extra menu or two. There was one that introduced engine swaps at collector level 50 but otherwise it has been pretty consistent as far as I can see.

I understand that not everyone is satisfied with the game but at this point, isn't it time to accept that GT7 is what it is? I think it's mad to expect anything fundamental to change or to continue expecting new tracks with each update, especially since the games still seems to be selling well. I hope we get another track or two but it doesn't seem very likely, all told. Isn't it more likely that updates continue with the same level of content that we've been seeing over the past 12 months? Doesn't it make more sense to simply make peace with this and stop torturing yourself?

Meh, maybe it's just me! Just wanted to say that I think you're all crazy.

That's kind of the issue. Other racing game devs, especially with live service games like GT is, are constantly making changes based on community feedback, both big and small. GT simply isn't doing enough, and there's so many simple things that could be done to make it far better

 

[jonoholland29]

The current Le Mans Hypercars should look more like these beauties, now they still mostly look like LMP1 cars. The AM Valkyrie is a step in the right direction.

Hi, Peugeot would like to speak to you

 

[Jason Myers]

That's kind of the issue. Other racing game devs, especially with live service games like GT is, are constantly making changes based on community feedback, both big and small. GT simply isn't doing enough, and there's so many simple things that could be done to make it far better

Yes forza horizon 5 is doing that every month since day one and still going, with new cars and events every week!! 2024 mustang dark horse next week along with the 2003 svt cobra the following week, crazy!!

 

[jonoholland29]

I've seen the "worst car" comments about the Urus a couple times in here now, and wonder what metrics any of you are basing this opinion on.

Is it bad because it's based on the same chassis as two of the other fastest/best-handling SUVs ever made?

Is it bad because it goes 0-60 in 3.3 - 3.6 seconds?

Is it bad because, compared to other SUVs (and even some sedans) its fairly "light" at 4,800lbs?

Is it bad because it runs the 'Ring in the same company as a 997 GT3, AMG SLS AMG, Carrera GT, Camaro ZL1 and other fast iron?

Ooooor, is it just bad because everyone judges it by the influencers seen driving it in Beverly Hills rather that the actual facts about what it is?

If you don't like it, fine, but just admit that your opinion is based on the reputation of it's owners and social media exposure, and not because of what it actually is.

I'm not saying its the worst, but it looks like a Hyundia and has a pathetic engine. It's just an uglier Q7 and not very "Lamborghini". I've not seen it on any social media or Beverly Hills, mostly at foggy race tracks in the UK

 

[jimihemmy]

Yes forza horizon 5 is doing that every month since day one and still going, with new cars and events every week!! 2024 mustang dark horse next week along with the 2003 svt cobra the following week, crazy!!

As this is the GT7 update thread, I do not care about Forza. All you have posted today (6 times!) is about the lack of cars in GT7 as compared to Forza.

While they are valid arguments, I am pretty sure they should go in a different thread.

 

[Cowboy]

So who's gonna be the first to do the GT-One road car livery aka essentially just removing the stock design

 

[jonoholland29]

Yes forza horizon 5 is doing that every month since day one and still going, with new cars and events every week!! 2024 mustang dark horse next week along with the 2003 svt cobra the following week, crazy!!

Forza does not make cars from scans or CADs as detailed as GT7 does. I much prefer the slow painful method by GT7 than the quicker way of Forza... and judging by the comments from the more eagle eyed of the forum, who can spot a triangle, or light fixing, body bulge in the silhouettes, I think a few GT7 players would agree with me. Otherwise play NFS

 

[AmyUD06]

So who's gonna be the first to do the GT-One road car livery aka essentially just removing the stock design

And then check that "Cannot be Edited" box to defeat the purpose.

 

[Draugnimir]

This leads to another issue, which is that GT7 has tons of racecars that are just leftout

My thoughts exactly. Choice of cars for Gran Turismo 7 feels so random; there is one F1 car from the 60s, one Super Silhouette racer, one SUV, one Group B rally car, etc. etc.

While Forza Motorsport is lacking content from FM7, I can respect a conscious choice to leave behind entire groups of cars and make sure that what's left has full grid of competitors (with only a handful of exceptions). It also has much, much better categorization of race cars. If only Forza GT division wasn't such a mess...

 

[Ranchero66]

Forza does not make cars from scans or CADs as detailed as GT7 does. I much prefer the slow painful method by GT7 than the quicker way of Forza... and judging by the comments from the more eagle eyed of the forum, who can spot a triangle, or light fixing, body bulge in the silhouettes, I think a few GT7 players would agree with me. Otherwise play NFS

GT7's car visuals are past the point of diminishing returns. FH5 being able to pull off a model that's 90% as detailed as a GT model + better tuning, opening doors and hoods and a beautiful environment around them is genuinely impressive

GT7's models are top of the line, but the rest of the game suffers because of it

 

[Suzuki-Cara]

So who's gonna be the first to do the GT-One road car livery aka essentially just removing the stock design

My money's on the two Pro Race Driver liveries in that one and one showdown with

Johnny Hawkins JR

 

[Ranchero66]

My thoughts exactly. Choice of cars for Gran Turismo 7 feels so random; there is one F1 car from the 60s, one Super Silhouette racer, one SUV, one Group B rally car, etc. etc.

While Forza Motorsport is lacking content from FM7, I can respect a conscious choice to leave behind entire groups of cars and make sure that what's left has full grid of competitors (with only a handful of exceptions). It also has much, much better categorization of race cars. If only Forza GT division wasn't such a mess...

Yes! That and the way you can structure your own classes in free race.

Currently doing a multiclass 30 lapper with GTX, Vintage Hot Hatch, track specials and a custom class of anything classic RWD

It's very much geared towards the racing end. Whereas it seems like the cars are added into GT to say they have them

 

[jonoholland29]

GT7's car visuals are past the point of diminishing returns. FH5 being able to pull off a model that's 90% as detailed as a GT model + better tuning, opening doors and hoods and a beautiful environment around them is genuinely impressive

GT7's models are top of the line, but the rest of the game suffers because of it

I don't agree if you're talking about resources - the guys doing the cars, just do cars. I don't think it affects any other development of the game because of it, I think it's a philosophy of PD that the other content is perfectly fine.

 

[Jason Myers]

GT7's car visuals are past the point of diminishing returns. FH5 being able to pull off a model that's 90% as detailed as a GT model + better tuning, opening doors and hoods and a beautiful environment around them is genuinely impressive

GT7's models are top of the line, but the rest of the game suffers because of it

And on top of that, with forza, the 2003. SVT Cobra Mustang, everybody's been waiting for there was a huge forum about it about 10 years ago. When are we ever going to get it? And here we go next few weeks. We're all gonna be able to drive it if we own forza for free. Along with the 2024 dark horse Mustang. And many other cars of course. I'm very impressed

And forza horizon and forza motorsport do scan all the cars, the 2003 terminator cobra was scanned not far from where I live in palo alto California!! It's coming out in 2 weeks winter season on horizon 5!

 

[Draugnimir]

Currently doing a multiclass 30 lapper with GTX, Vintage Hot Hatch, track specials and a custom class of anything classic RWD

Yes, easy to use multi-class racing is another feature from Forza (or any other sim(cade) racing game) I'd like to see in Gran Turismo.

 

[Kurlee66]

You forgot about the Range Rover Evoque Coupe Dynamic '13 from GT6. This is an SUV isn’t it? It was a lot of fun on the Eiger K Trail.

 

[FPV MIC]

Anyone would think this is the Forza update thread

Personally I'm looking forward to all three of these new cars... in GT 7.

 

[chengman]

I'd so hyped for the Audi RSQ8 livery people will throw on the Urus

 

[Ranchero66]

And on top of that, with forza, the 2003. SVT Cobra Mustang, everybody's been waiting for there was a huge forum about it about 10 years ago. When are we ever going to get it? And here we go next few weeks. We're all gonna be able to drive it if we own forza for free. Along with the 2024 dark horse Mustang. And many other cars of course. I'm very impressed

And forza horizon and forza motorsport do scan all the cars, the 2003 terminator cobra was scanned not far from where I live in palo alto California!! It's coming out in 2 weeks winter season on horizon 5!

My literal dream car. I would do horrible things to own one

 

[Indigo Mizumi]

While I think the Toyota GT-One will fit into Group 2 just fine considering we already have a couple other late 90s GT1s in there, this does make me wish the games group system was a bit less rigid, as there are some cars that on paper could work equally well in multiple classes. For instance, besides the late 90s GT1s in Group 2, they also have several 2008 spec GT500s that could possibly work in Group 3 just fine, and Group 3 itself includes a couple GT1s from disparate eras that could possibly fit into Group 2. There are also some Vision GTs that aren't in any of the existing classes that I think could be shoehorned in (Though many of them won't let you tune the settings, which is not so nice). For instance, the Toyota FT-1 VGT (Besides already having a dedicated Group 3 variant) could possibly fit in Group 2 just fine, and the AMG VGT Racing Series could fit in Group 3.

 

[Real_StiFex]

I'll preface this by once again reiterating that I have no history with GT, this is my first game in the series and I only bought it in April 2023. I'm a bit of an outsider in the sense of not being a "GT fan", just someone who has enjoyed this particular game over the last 11 months.

An observation from this perspective: these forums are bonkers at update time.

Every month is the same, we have "predictions" of new tracks, and people almost expecting some fundamental changes to the game, and then the inevitable fallout when none of this happens.

I can't understand where these expectations are coming from? With the exception of Spec 2, every update that I can remember since I started playing has been of a similar structure: a few cars, a few new events, and an extra menu or two. There was one that introduced engine swaps at collector level 50 but otherwise it has been pretty consistent as far as I can see.

I understand that not everyone is satisfied with the game but at this point, isn't it time to accept that GT7 is what it is? I think it's mad to expect anything fundamental to change or to continue expecting new tracks with each update, especially since the games still seems to be selling well. I hope we get another track or two but it doesn't seem very likely, all told. Isn't it more likely that updates continue with the same level of content that we've been seeing over the past 12 months? Doesn't it make more sense to simply make peace with this and stop torturing yourself?

Meh, maybe it's just me! Just wanted to say that I think you're all crazy.

I will preface it by saying that I played Gt since the beginning.
But yes it is always bonkers at the time of updates.
I mean the PS3 era of GT lead us to have so much high expectations for the serie that we want to be spoiled by content.
Reality is that it is yet to be attainable. GT has the engine capability the dedication and the ressources. In the IA departement I hope to enjoy it on the PS5 at some point. Fact is , we have some diffilcuties in two major departement since GT sport: race events and economy system.
To an extent it is based on the career mode.
Those two aspects could be improved with "minor" or easy fix.
A better program of curated events.
I mean we have some disparities in races for some car classes. For instance classic racing cars ( no didacted retro event)
Lack of new missions and championships. No endurance like the old days.
The economy offer few incentive to go full custom races.
The IA does not offer good competition with grid start.

But we know it is possible on GT7.
Some races are really challenging but are always you starting from last and chasing the leader.
There is no philosophy of doing your best in a race ( not being 1st place) and counting on the next race to achieve 1 st overall at the end of the championship.
In the current championship the car starting 1st wil be the same on the next race and the next after.
Meaning that if you don't finish ahead you will not be 1st.

The lack of randomness make the whole thing dull and the only goal is to be 1st at each race.
This, here, is the major grief I have.

This mentality replicate online in sport since only the one in pole or close can expect a good result and then everyone behind is chasing an overtake at all cost ( generally).

If there was more incentive on having a nice clean race we would have a better mind set in this regard.
I don't know if other have the same opinion.

Lastly the content, either cars or tracks is secondary for me.
Secondary as there will always be room for more and that it is the only things were addition has no real change in the game philospohy.
I don't feel let down ( slighlty for missing tracks sure but if they could give us one they would not retain from it).

 

[Greycap]

Those cars do belong in Gr.2, just as older GT500 cars reside in Gr.3.

Those late '90's, early 00's cars qualified around the 3.30-3.35 (and slower!) mark - a significant gap to Hypercar & LMP1 models - which are nearer 3.20-3.25.

Absolutely. The GT-One qualified at 3'29 while in 2022 the fastest LMP2s were doing 3'28s. From there we get a bridge to LMP2 vs. Super GT - in Fuji that year, the fastest LMP2s qualified at 1'31 whereas the GT500 pole position was a whopping 1'27.

In other words: the GT-One is, and it's already a long shot, barely comparable to the GT500 cars that basically define the Gr2 class in the game. No doubt that it's where it belongs.

 

[Ande3200]

Why is Gt7 not get vehicles like forza horizon, too small of a COLLECTION!!

Quality over quantity.
I hold no grudge on forza horizon 5 as they made a decent game, same thing can`t be said about the new forza motorsport, while gt7 is not perfect either it does a lot more things right, i am sick of seeing those outdated car models,
Their is no deny how much more love and care pd has for the cars, never played a game that makes me love a car as much as im gran turismo, add vr to that experince and it can be really mindblowing.

 

[TumeK5]

Quality over quantity.

Yes, let's not repeat GT5/6.

 

[RACECAR]

It just occurred to me that if you look at the rear, you can actually see where the 1998 car's rear louvers previously were.

For reference:

Knowing that only 1 of the 1999 cars was a brand new car while the other 2 were modified from 1998 (the 3 car being one of them, which also is the only one that finished the 1998 race as well), just found that interesting. Was for a while under the impression they just didn't exist.

 

[XSquareStickIt]

For anyone interested in seeing the real thing, the 1999 #3 car appears to be on display at Fuji Motorsports Museum, which houses other cars that PD has added to GT7 like the Porsche 904, Honda RA272, and the replica 787B.

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[Seikenfreak]

 

[Tired Tyres]

Any predictions for TS020 price? 🤔🤔

20 million. I'll buy three.

 

[br1x]

Absolutely. The GT-One qualified at 3'29 while in 2022 the fastest LMP2s were doing 3'28s. From there we get a bridge to LMP2 vs. Super GT - in Fuji that year, the fastest LMP2s qualified at 1'31 whereas the GT500 pole position was a whopping 1'27.

In other words: the GT-One is, and it's already a long shot, barely comparable to the GT500 cars that basically define the Gr2 class in the game. No doubt that it's where it belongs.

Or you compare it to times on Fuji directly, where it closely matches and sometimes outpaces the Group C cars that are in Group 1 and heavily outpaces the McLaren F1 GTR.

 

[fatkid]

Well If we get any custom parts options resembling this:

You then won't be able to hold back