Gran Turismo 7 Update Coming July 28

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I heard somewhere that ACC had exclusive licenses for the newer GT3/GT4 cars, meaning PD can't add them in just yet. I hope, if they do end up getting introduced, that they all arrive at once in a Spec II-style bundle, rather than being drip-fed over many months.
It's got nothing to do with licensing; they simply can't be bothered.
 
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It's got nothing to do with licensing; they simply can't be bothered.
I think they got huge backlog of cars to do , so i guess that's the reason we don't see more latest cars

I would loved to have 720 GT3 but that one was stuck in limbo some time during GT Sport :(
 
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I think they got huge backlog of cars to do , so i guess that's the reason we don't see more latest cars

I would loved to have 720 GT3 but that one was stuck in limbo in some time during GT Sport :(
I’m not sure about back log. Kaz mentioned once, he didn’t even know some brands were asking to be in the game. Plus, today, they have outsourcing. We know COVID didn’t slow them down. So, they just do and/or do not what PD want.

It does seem like they stepped up a bit, with the GT Awards cars. However, as many are stating, adding three cars per month, is not a backlog.
 
That might be good for Horizon but i am glad GT doesn't have any Season pass / Battle pass - honestly i don't have a problem with current grind it just needs more events
Honestly I'd rather buy the cars with real money but they have to be priced similar to like they were back in GTS, none of this hagerty crap. People would incline to use mtx if they used that method instead of expensive ingame credits IMO.
 
Honestly I'd rather buy the cars with real money but they have to be priced similar to like they were back in GTS, none of this hagerty crap. People would incline to use mtx if they used that method instead of expensive ingame credits IMO.
That’s what I don’t get. I’m sure PD and Sony had the numbers from GTSport. What made them think to change that method of…. Ah skip it. The way we acquire cars, it is probably better to get a big lump sum from someone buying 2million Credits than someone spending $2 per inexpensive car.
 
Honestly I'd rather buy the cars with real money but they have to be priced similar to like they were back in GTS, none of this hagerty crap. People would incline to use mtx if they used that method instead of expensive ingame credits IMO.
That is true but i am afraid those GTS prices probably won't come back and hagerty is here to stay :/
 
That’s what I don’t get. I’m sure PD and Sony had the numbers from GTSport. What made them think to change that method of…. Ah skip it. The way we acquire cars, it is probably better to get a big lump sum from someone buying 2million Credits than someone spending $2 per inexpensive car.
They're going after value over quantity, then build the economy around it with how we aquire cars, kinda sounds greedy IMO.

I believe they could have gotten more if they just use the GTS method.

Or better yet, put those special parts on mtx too with reasonable prices but make it seasonal or rotational. They could have gotten a fortune.
 
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That might be good for Horizon but i am glad GT doesn't have any Season pass / Battle pass - honestly i don't have a problem with current grind it just needs more events
So the whole events each week thing wouldn't appeal to you? Hm. Seems like it would have been a good solution to GT7's lack of events.
I think they got huge backlog of cars to do , so i guess that's the reason we don't see more latest cars
At three cars a month it's pretty much impossible for there not to be a huge backlog. They've painted themselves into a corner and they refuse to do the one thing that would get them out of it.
 
So the whole events each week thing wouldn't appeal to you? Hm. Seems like it would have been a good solution to GT7's lack of events.

At three cars a month it's pretty much impossible for there not to be a huge backlog. They've painted themselves into a corner and they refuse to do the one thing that would get them out of it.
This, if they give in and release for example, 6 cars at minimum every 2-3 weeks, that would at least take a bit of the heat off them.
 
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Don’t want antique or road cars, I want latest racing cars from Gr. 3, 4, HC, LMP2, formula etc that I can race with in online mode (or in sp if they add new missions etc).
I will offer a counter vote to that. No more race cars please! There are too many already. What we want is a lot of road cars. Which you can still tune and make race cars out of them if you want. Race cars are pretty useless. You can't modify them, you can't tune them (limited). All you can do with them is take them online and race them against the same race cars. This is meant to be a 'driving' simulator. There are more than enough racing games out there already. GT was always unique in the way that they concentrated on road cars. Sadly, they have lost it recently and now they want to make another ACC or Grid or whatever racing game.

EDIT: on a side note, I too don't want any of these vintage cars. There is nothing you can do with them except spend money on them and look at them. I want modern road cars. All of this Hagerty BS can be deleted today.
 
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Still don't get what happened. PD were outputting around 90 cars per year since GT5 days. Since then detail levels have increased but so have staff members and outsourcing, plus the increased speed from getting CAD files for real modern cars.

If this rate continues all year they'll have dropped to 36 a year, less than half.

Either they stopped outsourcing, they're holding back a large number of cars for..... reasons or something has gone badly wrong.

There is no way the additional time on extra trim parts/widebody etc has more than doubled production time. Not a chance.
 
Not all cars in Forza are paid DLC. Many become available via the Seasonal Playlist so all you need to do is a couple of hours of events and the car is yours. Although I would happily pay DLC if it meant getting more desirable cars which Forza's list generally tends to provide.
Most cars on fh5 playlist is rehashed content from fh4 barely any new cars. I think its more fun to save up for the cars them self like gran turismo does it
 
So the whole events each week thing wouldn't appeal to you? Hm. Seems like it would have been a good solution to GT7's lack of events.

At three cars a month it's pretty much impossible for there not to be a huge backlog. They've painted themselves into a corner and they refuse to do the one thing that would get them out of it.
More events would be fine , just i don't like the modern season pass style aka like F1 '22 with rare Sofas lol

I am sure they are able to do more cars and push more but atm they got this roadmap for whatever reason
even if they are outsourced that doesn't mean that those developers weren't impacted by the pandemic :(
 
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I wish we would get some more used cars too at the dealership - many more to be accurate - and we need some type of extension or enhancement of the Collector Points level to be coupled with lucrative and [rare] in game bonuses for incentive, no? Hitting level 50 and adding on useless points thereafter (apparently for no reason) doesn't make much sense unless they are working on something to apply these (collected) points to afterwards. I mean there has to be something beyond reaching 50 and forever adding on points to no avail... right?

I also wish we would get some of the old GT4 Race cars back to purchase in the "Legends" area. I know they'd be expensive but would love to see these cars in their fully rendered glory, like the old Chevrolet Camaro LM Race Car, RX-7 LM, all of the old JGTC cars with their great liveries -- ALL of the old LMP1&2 cars like the Pescarolos, the Pagani, Panoz, all Audis, BMW V12, Alpine, Bentley Speed 8, and of course the 88C-V and TS020 to name a few. And oh I wish we could get some of the old tracks back like Apricot Hill, Grand Valley, and Seattle. Why is Silverstone absent?

On another damper note sort of speak there appears to be a glitch that continues to persist around the brake calipers. When I create a style lately and bring it to the floor to share -- yes you guessed it -- the brake calipers magically turn a different colour.
Like the calipers on my RS which have suddenly turn blue when ready to share :boggled:

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Calipers should not be blue when sharing style >>

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They're going after value over quantity, then build the economy around it with how we aquire cars, kinda sounds greedy IMO.

I believe they could have gotten more if they just use the GTS method.

Or better yet, put those special parts on mtx too with reasonable prices but make it seasonal or rotational. They could have gotten a fortune.
For sure. It’d be like buying slot cars, r/c and hot wheels collections. At the moment, it’s like people purchase gift cards and have to pick and choose what to spend them on.
 
You mean Tracks??
Pretty sure he's on point with more races (events), having the game focused on the cafe and then not pointing you to the extra races to do [THAT YOU HAVE TO GO TO EACH INDIVIDUAL TRACK TO FIND! 😡 ] and even then its only 'clubman/clubman+' events where finally we get some standing starts but clubman events are like, the second race events to go into after blitzing the sunday cup events in old games.

I've said it before and i'll keep saying it; They should've organised the races by events with a second menu to go to each track, not just have to find the events you 'want' by having to go in and out of each location. Not to mention the old thumbnails for events are what makes them memorable:

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heck, even the page before these could be like GT1, but obviously tailored to GT7 content: [Championships], [Single events], [Circuit experience], [Time Trial], etc.
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This, with selling cars, removed roulette ticket system, bigger prizes with winnable cars would be the best game-changer they could do.

Either that or we'll just get the 3 random cars plus 1 track (if they add one) till the next game.
 
More events would be fine , just i don't like the modern season pass style aka like F1 '22 with rare Sofas lol
Right, but you were talking about Horizon, where the closest thing to a Season Pass is their weekly/monthly set of challenges that they put out. Technically it's called the Festival Playlist, and it's exactly the sort of thing a live service game like GT7 needs. New and remixed races/challenges, extra prizes for those who have finished all the "main" content, incentive for people to at least jump online once and do a few races.

And on a weekly cycle, so if you're reasonably casual it's probably enough to last you for most of the week - there's at least a few hours of gameplay in there if you want to do it all. It costs nothing, it's just part of the ongoing support of the game. The only "cost" is that if you never do it then some of the rare cars are hard to access, but Gran Turismo-ians seem pretty keen on the idea that at least some cars should be hard to access anyway.

And you say you don't want it, which seems pretty weird. Gran Turismo doesn't have to do the exact same thing, but they could do a whole lot worse than just copying it. Like having no fixed method of providing ongoing content to their "live service" game.
 
Most cars on fh5 playlist is rehashed content from fh4 barely any new cars. I think its more fun to save up for the cars them self like gran turismo does it
I got curious about how much reused content FH5 has from the playlist and quickly made this:

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Also I feel that the Playlist System can really work well with games like Forza Motorsport and Gran Turismo 7, if done properly.
 
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The reason I went with 918 for the article is that nothing screams that it isn't, and the split in the roof - the 918 Spyder has a two-piece roof - rather hints that it is.

The rear wing screams that it isn’t to me. Also the length of the car, specifically from the back of the roof to the rear of the car looks too short. Look at the rear of the Maserati and compare to the silhouette, they don’t even look close, nor the hood or fenders. Focus where the fender transitions before the A pillar, not the same at all
 
Pretty sure he's on point with more races (events), having the game focused on the cafe and then not pointing you to the extra races to do [THAT YOU HAVE TO GO TO EACH INDIVIDUAL TRACK TO FIND! 😡 ] and even then its only 'clubman/clubman+' events where finally we get some standing starts but clubman events are like, the second race events to go into after blitzing the sunday cup events in old games.

I've said it before and i'll keep saying it; They should've organised the races by events with a second menu to go to each track, not just have to find the events you 'want' by having to go in and out of each location. Not to mention the old thumbnails for events are what makes them memorable:

32p4xv8ymbn81.jpg

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heck, even the page before these could be like GT1, but obviously tailored to GT7 content: [Championships], [Single events], [Circuit experience], [Time Trial], etc.
PSDX6D3D106.jpg


This, with selling cars, removed roulette ticket system, bigger prizes with winnable cars would be the best game-changer they could do.

Either that or we'll just get the 3 random cars plus 1 track (if they add one) till the next game.
Spot on with this.Why the races are organised this way is beyond me.Some special events would be welcome,iknow we have the missions but they payout once so for me theres no incentive to repeat them.We`ll see what lands next week but the excitement for updates has gone for me. 👍
 
The rear wing screams that it isn’t to me. Also the length of the car, specifically from the back of the roof to the rear of the car looks too short. Look at the rear of the Maserati and compare to the silhouette, they don’t even look close, nor the hood or fenders. Focus where the fender transitions before the A pillar, not the same at all
It all screams it is the 918 to me and the top car looks to be clearly the Maserati A6GCS as well. I'm not seeing what you're seeing different with either of these cars.

The Maserati doesn't have an A-Pillar, it's just got a windscreen with no pillar or edging on the sides or top. It all matches once you account for the fact you can't see all the detail in the silhouette and just match what you can see without trying to interpret what you can't.
 
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The rear wing screams that it isn’t to me. Also the length of the car, specifically from the back of the roof to the rear of the car looks too short.
The rear wing is dynamic, and in this case it's in the 70mph/not braking position (or the static but someone's pressed the "put the wing up" button position). Otherwise, literally every crease, seam, and panel gap is in the same place, even the really obvious one on the two-piece roof panel and the rear clamshell.

Quick and dirty comparison with FH5:
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Look at the rear of the Maserati and compare to the silhouette, they don’t even look close, nor the hood or fenders. Focus where the fender transitions before the A pillar, not the same at all
Again, every detail on the Maserati - down to the ridges on the bonnet, the tonneau nipples, the filler cap, the rear light - match:

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You can even see the entire windscreen, with the first ridge rearwards of the bonnet being the body mounting and the second ridge being the top of the screen (and more tonneau nipples visible below it).
 
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My idea for a new cars update:

3 or 4 new cars - 2 marks minimum, 4 marks max.
6 cars - More cars for one existing mark in game.
8 or more cars - New car mark for GT7, new mark must have, by minimum, 8 or more existing car models in real life (I suggest adding Apollo (formerly Gumpert), Koenigsegg, Lister, Lotus).

Cool, isn't it?
 
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The rear wing is dynamic, and in this case it's in the 70mph/not braking position (or the static but someone's pressed the "put the wing up" button position). Otherwise, literally every crease, seam, and panel gap is in the same place, even the really obvious one on the two-piece roof panel and the rear clamshell.

Quick and dirty comparison with FH5:



Again, every detail on the Maserati - down to the ridges on the bonnet, the tonneau nipples, the filler cap, the rear light - match:

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You can even see the entire windscreen, with the first ridge rearwards of the bonnet being the body mounting and the second ridge being the top of the screen (and more tonneau nipples visible below it).
So I traced the outline of the silouhette and put it over the FH5 image and apart from the slight difference in the angle, theyre a perfect match. It has to be the 918
 

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It's nice that there's a steady supply of new cars to the game, however I am still about 90m short on all the remaining cars I need to acquire and I fear that this update is going to take the total above 100m again. Here's hoping that the update includes not only cars, but also new racing events and mission challenges.
 
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