Gran Turismo Sport Closed Beta Coming March 17: First the US, Then EU Region

[JDMKING13]

It dropped down from 53 to 39.

I think I saw you in the top 10 on some of the tracks, its a shame you drop that much man people have no respect.

 

[Brend]

Of course, people are entitled to their opinions. If folks genuinely think Tokyo is a great track, I'm having a hard time thinking of a fantasy track that would qualify as "bad" though.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Once people see this track at night, they'll change their minds

Yeah, it could end up being a visually stunning track that's utterly terrible to race on. Progress?

Small? It will have about 1 location more than AC on console and about 2 less than FM6.

19 locations and 27 ribbons? Yeah, it's about even with AC — which also has little variety on consoles IMO — but is some way short of FM6's 26 locations and... I don't even know how many ribbons, but at least triple GT Sport's. For the sake of fairness, I'm not counting rain/night ribbons as unique, since GT Sport isn't doing that with the 5/6 different times of day. PD does tend to count reverse layouts though.

Besides, chances are FM7 will be out before or around the same time as GTS, and that's very likely to have an even larger number of tracks. Then there's PCARS2...

 

[Lukanyon]

Once people see this track at night, they'll change their minds

Because at night we won't be able to see how horrible the track is?

I actually like Cape Ring…

 

[lancia delta hf]

I really hope PD goes the AC and Pcars way of letting you turn your headlights on when you want. Sometimes you cant see your dials even when Its day time If I could turn on my lights I could see a lot better. @lancia delta hf did you play the game yet? It is far from to straight....

No i haven't, yes i can see it isn't "straight", but as Slip said it's basically a corridor. PDI have some legendary fantasy tracks and they came up with this dull looking track visually and physically.

Small? It will have about 1 location more than AC on console and about 2 less than FM6.

But AC has a small track list too, and isn't a 1st party AAA game nearly 4 years into the consoles lifespan. Pcars2 track list will maul GTS track list as will F7 likely. Frankly it's embarrassing.

Edit: wasnt cape ring meant to be a test track? I liked it too.

 

[jm79]

Because at night we won't be able to see how horrible the track is?

Haha yeah perhaps

I can't comment on the gameplay experience, so all I have are the visuals. (I think it looks stunning, genuinely. Don't tell me I'm wrong guys, just an opinion.)

Does seem to me that the GTP'ers who've raced it in beta, are fairly positive overall though?

 

[TurismoBad]

Is PD counting GR.4 cars as unique of 137 cos those are just regular cars with spoilers and stickers.

Haha yeah perhaps

I can't comment on the gameplay experience, so all I have are the visuals. (I think it looks stunning, genuinely. Don't tell me I'm wrong guys, just an opinion.)

Does seem to me that the GTP'ers who've raced it in beta, are fairly positive overall though?

Visually drab and kinda fun to hot lap. Racing there results in SR lowering crash fest on every corner. It's kinda impossible to overtake if someone is a bit slower than you and does not crash. Even when they crash there's so little space you often end up crashing with them.

N300 races still have all the issues but with slower cars it's not as big of a problem.

 

[RaY29rus]

Is PD counting GR.4 cars as unique of 137 cos those are just regular cars with spoilers and stickers.

Of course.

 

[JDMKING13]

Haha yeah perhaps

I can't comment on the gameplay experience, so all I have are the visuals. (I think it looks stunning, genuinely. Don't tell me I'm wrong guys, just an opinion.)

Does seem to me that the GTP'ers who've raced it in beta, are fairly positive overall though?

In my opinion it looks great I don't know what people are expecting an express way to look like. I really hope you get the beta so you can drive on it and see the challenge of maintaining your speed and being clean. I will tell you though Its tough racing It online because people will do anything to get a win. This normally results in some lower SR action. Doing TT though is great fun or If you had a group of friends you can have fun on It. My brother and I were doing TT, but we had to stay in one lane for it to count. Bro It was crazy fun, and If PD gave us the option to take off all that information on the screen you could really get immersed on Tokyo. The lighting is gorgeous on that track! Again I hope you get the beta soon watching video can give you pretty good insight but It doesn't compare when you actually play the game. I have every racing game out (execpt rally games) I am impressed what PD offered in this Beta. 👍 @TurismoBad What game wouldn't?

 

[TrevorPhilips]

Besides, chances are FM7 will be out before or around the same time as GTS, and that's very likely to have an even larger number of tracks. Then there's PCARS2...

I'll buy those too. It still does not make it small. Smaller, yes, small, no.

In other news, Dirt Rally is on sale in PS Store EU. I'm buying it later but holding you responsible if I don't like it!

But AC has a small track list too, and isn't a 1st party AAA game nearly 4 years into the consoles lifespan. Pcars2 track list will maul GTS track list as will F7 likely. Frankly it's embarrassing.

And I welcome those games with open arms and will buy those too! The more racers the better! 19 tracks is enough to keep me interested. It's not small at all. And if they are all to the level of what I have seen so far, I'm fine with that. I'll play the game for what it is, I'll let you worry about time management. You may just have a revelation on how you've been spending yours the last few days talking about a game that's clearly not to your liking. 👍

 

[fortbo]

I really hope PD goes the AC and Pcars way of letting you turn your headlights on when you want. Sometimes you cant see your dials even when Its day time If I could turn on my lights I could see a lot better. @lancia delta hf did you play the game yet? It is far from to straight....

You can do that already and you could even do that in GT6.

 

[JDMKING13]

You can do that already and you could even do that in GT6.

When? The only way you could turn on your lights is one the track got dark. If it was day you could not turn on the light.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

I'll buy those too. It still does not make it small. Smaller, yes, small, no.

Outside of GT1 (and the Prologues/Concepts) it'll be the smallest in the franchise, and is roughly on par with what FM5 delivered over three years ago in terms of locations, though not ribbons (which was widely criticized as a small list). It sits in the lower half of the genre this generation in terms of track count: AC launched with the same number of ribbons (27), but less locations, though both have now been expanded.

I'd say we're both right.

In other news, Dirt Rally is on sale in PS Store EU. I'm buying it later but holding you responsible if I don't like it!

Oh, is it? Looks like we need an article...

What's your setup like? Curious to hear how you get on with it.

The more racers the better!

This. This is our motto.

 

[TurismoBad]

@TurismoBad What game wouldn't?

If it had 137 cars after 4 years from AAA 1st party studio ? I suspect most wouldn't. PD was kinda shameless in that regard in the past. Sure games do that but PD have a special way of doing it.

My point is - car list is already small so let's hope it's not all body-kits and variants cos right now I see a lot of that.

 

[RaY29rus]

If it had 137 cars after 4 years from AAA 1st party studio ? I suspect most wouldn't.

My point is - car list is already small so let's hope it's not all body-kits and variants cos right now I see a lot of that.

I think we already saw almost all cars, if we doesn't count different versions. Some of already known Gr.N cars (like NSX) will get Gr.3, Gr.4 or/and Gr.B versions, some race cars (like R8 LMS) will get Gr.N version and here you go - full car list.

 

[jm79]

Just want to give another quick shoutout to @marvthegamer - your consistency in streaming the beta is commendable mate. Always a pleasure to catch up with your efforts at improving the driving skillz.

 

[z06fun]

Clean Passing on Tokyo is certainly harder than other tracks. The problem is that clean passing is already hard in general, on any track (well maybe not something like Daytona speedway) Making it harder means you will spend a lot of time just doing follow the leader. Of course the very short races here don't help, but that is just a beta only issue.

Seems like a 3 lane wide version could have provided a better racing experience.

 

[sumbrownkid]

I personally like Tokyo for time trials. But for racing? A bit too narrow for faster cars at least. Passable for the N300s however.

Like my friend Bobert said to me, just bring back SSR11. Now that would be a fabulous city based track.

Other than that, how much should I bribe Kaz to give me the Mclaren 650S GT3 and the FT1 VGT?

 

[SlipZtrEm]

I think we already saw almost all cars, if we doesn't count different versions. Some of already known Gr.N cars (like NSX) will get Gr.3, Gr.4 or/and Gr.B versions, some race cars (like R8 LMS) will get Gr.N version and here you go - full car list.

I'm of the same mind. I expect a handful of newly unveiled cars (maybe Porsche?), but mostly, just variations on existing cars to flesh out the classes.

Seems like a 3 lane wide version could have provided a better racing experience.

This would transform the track IMO. Widen the sections before and after the fast right after the first sector, and you've created a much better passing opportunity. Do the same for the last tunnel of the lap and at least there'd be some options.

👍

 

[Johnnypenso]

In my opinion it looks great I don't know what people are expecting an express way to look like. I really hope you get the beta so you can drive on it and see the challenge of maintaining your speed and being clean. I will tell you though Its tough racing It online because people will do anything to get a win. This normally results in some lower SR action. Doing TT though is great fun or If you had a group of friends you can have fun on It. My brother and I were doing TT, but we had to stay in one lane for it to count. Bro It was crazy fun, and If PD gave us the option to take off all that information on the screen you could really get immersed on Tokyo. The lighting is gorgeous on that track! Again I hope you get the beta soon watching video can give you pretty good insight but It doesn't compare when you actually play the game. I have every racing game out (execpt rally games) I am impressed what PD offered in this Beta. 👍 @TurismoBad What game wouldn't?

I believe this is essentially what the people who dislike Tokyo are saying. It'll be fine for a TT because any track works for solo driving and it'll be fine to race with people you know and trust, again, because any track works for that purpose. You laugh about it lowering your SR but it's not going to be a laughing matter in a game where advancement into cleaner racing is dependent upon that SR. There's no escaping the fact that, statistically, a narrow track surrounded by barriers is going to cause more incidents, all else being equal. I predict the track will be mostly avoided in open lobbies that have the SR rating active, if that's even a thing. Most of the circuit racing type of street tracks in GT5 and GT6 were rarely used in open lobbies in my experience. Monaco, London and Madrid were rarely used in voting lobbies. Rome would come up on rare occasions and Tokyo a little moreso because they were wider tracks that had a couple of good passing zones and several corners that were quite challenging to get just right and avoid scrubbing off speed or scraping the barriers.

 

[JDMKING13]

If it had 137 cars after 4 years from AAA 1st party studio ? I suspect most wouldn't. PD was kinda shameless in that regard in the past. Sure games do that but PD have a special way of doing it.

My point is - car list is already small so let's hope it's not all body-kits and variants cos right now I see a lot of that.

Again it does not shock me at all and while the interior looks the same at least they change up the exterior of the car. In Forza 6 all they do is slap on a diffrent livery and call it another car to the roster. It doesn't even bother me though man because I just feel thats the norm. @Johnnypenso What you said I agree with I have said it plenty of times this track is not ideal for racing online with any ol person. To say the track Is useless or shouldn't be in the game is harsh in my opinion. As you said every track could be great for TT, but it doesn't take from the fact it's fun. Also I would really enjoy doing a high speed test with certain class cars with my friends, we don't have to be flat out racing we all could be on the track for 6 laps trying to get the best time. This is just the beta BTW who knows how PD may implement this track into an event we just have to wait and see.

 

[TrevorPhilips]

Outside of GT1 (and the Prologues/Concepts) it'll be the smallest in the franchise, and is roughly on par with what FM5 delivered over three years ago in terms of locations, though not ribbons (which was widely criticized as a small list). It sits in the lower half of the genre this generation in terms of track count: AC launched with the same number of ribbons (27), but less locations, though both have now been expanded.

I'd say we're both right.

I'd say we both just look at things differently, you seem to judge based on other games and time taken, which is fair I suppose as they are all competing for your money and time. I judge based on value to me and what I can get out of it personally, other games rarely come into my thoughts because I know (and I'm happy that) they will offer me a different experience.

I don't expect to play this game long enough to become bored of content to be honest. Knowing myself as I do I will become bored with the game before I'm bored of the content. As long as it offers me fun, I will play it, when it stops being fun, I will move on.

Spoiler: Storytime!

A prime example of this happened this last week or so. I borrowed my nephews XBox, set up an account, bought FM6 code and 3 months subs for £40 online. This is again partly your fault! After discussing what's out and about there with you I got the itch!

Played the **** out of it and feel I got my moneys worth. I mean, £40 isn't even a quarter of a night out these days, I easily got at least 5 good nights in!

This may be crazy to some people here the way they go on about how 'outraged' they are over a game, or how 'embarrassed' they feel for the the developer, or whatever. That £40 is the same as what I will pay for GTS, and PC2, and FM7. I already know that this will be money well spent for me.

PS. If, on your travels across these boards, you come across an xbox owner (UK) who wants FM6 with 3 months gold, tell them to drop me a line. It's got a stupid username though! 👍

Oh, is it? Looks like we need an article...

What's your setup like? Curious to hear how you get on with it.

Pad player so far this gen, I still have a DFGT knocking round somewhere but if I get the urge I'll just get a new wheel instead of the GIMX route. Besides, pads served me well so far as I was pretty quick on PCars! Although relatively slow on FM6 but I put that down to being extremely late to the party.

This. This is our motto.

 

[JDMKING13]

I'd say we both just look at things differently, you seem to judge based on other games and time taken, which is fair I suppose as they are all competing for your money and time. I judge based on value to me and what I can get out of it personally, other games rarely come into my thoughts because I know (and I'm happy that) they will offer me a different experience.

I don't expect to play this game long enough to become bored of content to be honest. Knowing myself as I do I will become bored with the game before I'm bored of the content. As long as it offers me fun, I will play it, when it stops being fun, I will move on.

Spoiler: Storytime!

A prime example of this happened this last week or so. I borrowed my nephews XBox, set up an account, bought FM6 code and 3 months subs for £40 online. This is again partly your fault! After discussing what's out and about there with you I got the itch!

Played the **** out of it and feel I got my moneys worth. I mean, £40 isn't even a quarter of a night out these days, I easily got at least 5 good nights in!

This may be crazy to some people here the way they go on about how 'outraged' they are over a game, or how 'embarrassed' they feel for the the developer, or whatever. That £40 is the same as what I will pay for GTS, and PC2, and FM7. I already know that this will be money well spent for me.

PS. If, on your travels across these boards, you come across an xbox owner (UK) who wants FM6 with 3 months gold, tell them to drop me a line. It's got a stupid username though! 👍

Pad player so far this gen, I still have a DFGT knocking round somewhere but if I get the urge I'll just get a new wheel instead of the GIMX route. Besides, pads served me well so far as I was pretty quick on PCars! Although relatively slow on FM6 but I put that down to being extremely late to the party.

I am on that same vibe man I just want to have fun I don't even care about the politics. This last year has been great with all these racing games out, and while none of them get everything perfect each games shines in its own way to keep you wanting more! My favorite games are GT and FM because just the way they are set up more than just hardcore driving. Don't get me wrong I appreciate the Pcars and the AC because they do give me at least a great driving experience but when it comes to being a game I love what FM and GT does.

 

[ImaRobot]

I don't expect to play this game long enough to become bored of content to be honest. Knowing myself as I do I will become bored with the game before I'm bored of the content. As long as it offers me fun, I will play it, when it stops being fun, I will move on.

It's funny, this has been what has happened with most of the racing games I picked up lately, most recent being Forza Horizon. I get really excited about them, play them for a bit as the hype dies down, and a couple months in they just turn into a photography simulator for me It's not that they're bad, and even if I don't play them as much, I definitely get my moneys worth I feel, but they I definitely do get over them relatively fast.

With that said, GTS is right up my alley, considering the time I spend taking photos compared to actually racing

I notice that my routine with racing games was to build and tune multiple cars and take it around a specific test track(usually just ends up being my favorite track) and just try to beat my current fastest time, and then eventually just close out with taking photos that I never upload. That's probably why I prefer games that has a fair amount of visual customization, as not only does it let me make the vehicle "mine" but it allows for more individualism in photomode. If anything, the lack of customization is probably one of the major, if only, gripes I have with this game that might deter me from purchase.

 

[HellzFire]

Tokyo would have been an amazing track for racing if it was a car wide wider, if that makes sense. Just as wide as GT6's Tokyo.

It's a good track for time trial atm.

 

[queleuleu]

I don't have access to the beta bu I'm already bored with it, I probably saw too many videos.
Almost every features disabled and the lack of fresh tracks can't help.

 

[zzz_pt]

Tokyo would have been an amazing track for racing if it was a car wide wider, if that makes sense. Just as wide as GT6's Tokyo.

It's a good track for time trial atm.

I'm curious to try it out with smaller / slower cars. With fast cars seems too hard to overtake. Even Cote d'Azur has a few sections long enough to overtake while driving fast cars. :/

 

[HellzFire]

I'm curious to try it out with smaller / slower cars. With fast cars seems too hard to overtake. Even Cote d'Azur has a few sections long enough to overtake while driving fast cars. :/

With the n300 class was already almost impossible to overtake. Will we have a slower class on the final game?

I agree with you that with slow cars could be a fun track, but it's the only option that can work for a totally brand new track, they should've realized that.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

I'd say we both just look at things differently, you seem to judge based on other games and time taken, which is fair I suppose as they are all competing for your money and time. I judge based on value to me and what I can get out of it personally, other games rarely come into my thoughts because I know (and I'm happy that) they will offer me a different experience.

I don't expect to play this game long enough to become bored of content to be honest. Knowing myself as I do I will become bored with the game before I'm bored of the content. As long as it offers me fun, I will play it, when it stops being fun, I will move on.

Oh, I'm in a similar position, and I plan on buying a lot of titles this year (and possibly one of the half-step systems). I just try to look at it from the point of view of someone who does have to compare all the titles, because they're probably only going to buy one or two. It's only a hunch, but I think those folks probably out-number those of us that just buy as many racing games as we can afford.

Spoiler: Storytime!

A prime example of this happened this last week or so. I borrowed my nephews XBox, set up an account, bought FM6 code and 3 months subs for £40 online. This is again partly your fault! After discussing what's out and about there with you I got the itch!

Played the **** out of it and feel I got my moneys worth. I mean, £40 isn't even a quarter of a night out these days, I easily got at least 5 good nights in!

This may be crazy to some people here the way they go on about how 'outraged' they are over a game, or how 'embarrassed' they feel for the the developer, or whatever. That £40 is the same as what I will pay for GTS, and PC2, and FM7. I already know that this will be money well spent for me.

PS. If, on your travels across these boards, you come across an xbox owner (UK) who wants FM6 with 3 months gold, tell them to drop me a line. It's got a stupid username though! 👍

Spoiler: Storytime response!

Heh, that's more or less how I started on the Forza franchise. FM4 pre-release stuff got me interested, so I borrowed a 360 and played a bit of FM3. Got hooked, bought a cheap bundle, the best version of FM4, and haven't looked back. FH1 was pretty lackluster for me, and FM5's reheated DLC plan didn't interest me, so I took a break until just before FM6 launched.

It's true, gaming compared to other activities is still pretty cheap, all things considered. Movie night is typically 4/5 the price of a game these days for the missus and I. On the other hand, I think comparing apples to apples has its place: we know most games are likely to all offer great value-for-money in terms of smiles-per-mile!

Then again, as you suggest, all that matters in the end is personal satisfaction, and it's hard to put a price on that. Which applies to just about anything though — like car comparisons, as just one example. But I like reading those too!

Pad player so far this gen, I still have a DFGT knocking round somewhere but if I get the urge I'll just get a new wheel instead of the GIMX route. Besides, pads served me well so far as I was pretty quick on PCars! Although relatively slow on FM6 but I put that down to being extremely late to the party.

Same here. Pad has been fine for most games. I really liked the CSL Elite when I reviewed it last year, but I really don't want to pick a wheel until FM7 and GTS have released. I find GTS more than acceptable on pad — better than GT6, surely — but it still doesn't have the feedback FM6 offers, likely because the XB1 pad is just better for racing games. Those rumbly triggers!

In terms of speed, I can't keep up with the leaderboard guys in GT Sport, but I am getting grouped with them, which is more than good enough IMO. It's more fun to have close mid-pack finishes than running away from the pack, so that's all great for me.

Over in FM6, I'm typically in the top 1% on the boards, and that's fine too. Yeah, after 18 months, the average speed of folks online is definitely much higher now. Hopefully, with the eSports bent in GT Sport, it doesn't end up with an equivalent of the Alfa 33 or BAC Mono in any of the classes.

 

[JTB10000]

I feel the same as most about Tokyo: great fun for time trialing, horrible for high-speed racing.

Tried a GR.3 race there and nope'd out a few seconds in. Being pushed into walls and pile-ups right off the bat, I was not going have a good time.

If there is an N100 category, it's probably the only category that can produce good racing there.