Gran Turismo World Series (Manufacturers Cup 2025 Exhibition 3 season: 12 Nov - 29 Nov)

[tmtk]

GT2, first US slot, DR A-B lobby, 151 points for the win...

WHAT!???

What the hell am I doing here with about 3/4 of B-bar filled???

Door 16, obviously.

Okay, I was seriously s****ing myself in the pre-race lobby.

The practice laps before showed that Supra gr.4 will certainly not be a force to reckon with in this round.
My qualifying went not bad, with 1:42.1 I qualified 11th.
I just wished to hang on, not kill anybody and not making any serious mistakes.

The start went calmly, I even picked one place as someone went off track.
Whoever I was driving behind I just tried to follow (loosing time obviously) and be mindful of who is catching up behind (they did).
But, maybe the A-rated drivers were in this lobby because of a penalty or something, because some crashed into each other, some took solid penalties and at one point I found myself driving in 7th place!

Some of those I overtook due to penalties or going off track caught up to me without special problem. Decided to not overfight them because I had problems of my own when I couldn't make the perfect line through Senna esses I often got caught up just before the Lago corner. And in the later part of the race I found myself in exactly that situation. Bad esses and two drivers right behind my back, I stayed on the outside, did not swerve, braked early so the driver can overtake, but they braked early too and we were side by side on the apex of Lago, but the A driver did not left me any space and pushed me to the outside and it resulted in me getting 0,5 second penalty.

They both left me for dead after the penalty. I had good space behind so being in 10th I decided to bring it home.
But it was not over, in the final laps they begin to fight with each other for 8th. Clouds of smoke coming my way around most corners. The gloves are off. On the last lap I was already close to them (just over a second away) and they clashed seriously at Juncao (basically the last corner). One of them (the one who gave me penalty) was off the track and so I inherited the 9th place!

The disparity of DR in the lobby meant that even being in 9th place I got a DR bump (there were about 4 DR A drivers behind me). This and round 100 points for 9th? Yay!
I'll take it and not looking back!

I am already worried what the next lobby will look like for me... 😬

 

[FlapJackFlash]

Well I went again as I thought I had more pace, I probably shouldn't have. All B lobby this time (also pretty much all Porsche), still couldn't put together a decent Q lap and started 8th. Would need to come 7th or higher to beat my previous points of 103. Race was incredibly tight and close which led to the annoying outcome of any slight hit or nudge from someone else meant you'd lose about 1 or 2 places. Would continually catch up to 2 Porsches in 6th and 7th but then they would do something stupid in their fight which would make me lose places and repeat about 4 times. Managed to get home in 8th for 101 points and definitely not going again.

 

[ElectricNaz]

Saturday and today, I've started 11th and finished 10th. Broadly happy as they were strong lobbies. Although qualifying should have seen me start top 5 at worst but I messed up my 2nd (flyer) lap after my banker.

Although in the 5pm race just now, a millimetre wide on lap 9 in an unusual place cost me two places! (1 sec penalty, 2.5s on track ☺️)

No idea how anyone could gain that much of an advantage there, especially when the one at the end of the back straight is only 0.5s!!!!

161 points in Saturday,
156 points today

Relatively happy as these are fully A+ lobbies and there are quite a few I won't ever be keeping pace with!

 

[MIE1992]

Got a clean Q12/P10 at Interlagos, which I think is solid!

 

[Wilsonson]

From the replays on leaderboard, the track is totally dry by lap 30. All the top times posted from lap 30 onwards.

This means that RBR will be a full wet race right?

 

[nostradavor2]

100% clean race.. I actually let by some players, could've done better but I'm actually very happy with this result.. was very nice race.. forgot to save the replay .. I knew Interlagos is my track

 

[ZEE]

Hey GTP peeps, Ok so overall todays Interlagos race, Round 3 of GTWS Manus cup was pretty decent. I had some good battling and one of my better races for a Gr.4 C lobby class race. Qualifying was good managed ot get into 5th positon to start the race, a good spot to avoid bashes at front or rear of the grid. A clean first lap and we were off, i was chasing Porsches Caymans left right and centre all the while the leader in a TT cup was sailing away leaving a 7-8secs gap. I tried all in the early laps to get up to the 2nd postion and beat a spanish guy in the G70 and I did near lap 6-7 and then I started to lose a little compsoure and get unecassary penalties becuase of corners that just pipped my limit. I also did a few laps doing dodhy turns 1 & 2 that cost me time making drop to 5th, but recovered back to 4th.

But overall kept it together to finish a solid 4th place overall, netted some decent points and improved my rating!

Lets go Round 4 and see what the rainy forecast brings at RBR!

Spoiler: Cool Race photos

 

[stpatty]

I'd hoped to get home early today and do some practice, but no. Got two laps in before the race started, 1:42 my best time. Qualified 14th with a 42.3. Whoops.

Only made up places due to others going off with a very close field. Had a battle over lap 3/4 with a faster Porsche who had served a penalty. Once he got past me I ended up in 9th by lap 5, and there started the Trulli train:

Held them off until the BMW got spun out by the Dodge in the infield on lap 8. Then went to work on defending from the Honda, then the other GT-R until they all fell away and I crossed the line comfortably. Everyone was keeping clean, it just got a bit clumsy at times. I think that's a problem with this Gr.4 bop, everything is so slow there's no separation. My lap times defending were 1.5 off my fastest and I still only finished 15 seconds behind the winner.

No idea what the points were, don't care, not beating the result or performance for laughs.

 

[Fezzik]

Still battling finger pain but managed to race.

Bit of a snorefest to be honest. C/S lobby. Qualified 8th as I didn’t hook up either lap. Practice time would’ve been 2nd row. Everyone well behaved on the first few laps, a bit of rubbin’ but nothing more. Unfortunately I was very consistently 0.5-0.8s off the pace so gradually slipped away from the lead pack. There was a great battle about 3 secs ahead of me that I watched for about 8 laps. unable to join in. No one close behind so a boring drive in no mans land to 6th.

Needed some strategy, some tyre wear, fuel saving, something.

Not sure I can manage Saturday’s race length so will probably practice for Blue Moon instead. Have hardly raced there.

 

[VTEC Driver]

GT2 EMEA 19:00 Q5/P4

Capable to lap at 1:41.3 I qualified with 1:42:5… I need to learn how to manage the stress.

Luckily the start was clean and respectful and all the top 5-6 positions remained fixed.
However on second lap a AMG passed me because the Renault Trophy is not really fast and so P6.

For some laps I kept this position keeping a Ferrari at around 2-3 seconds behind and not capable to reach me.

Then in the front started to fight and I had the impression that it was not clean behavior. So one car went out and no penalty for the other.
I am P5.

Some other laps, another fight, one car out no penalty for the other.
I am P4.

This position I kept till the end increasing the gap behind but even if I was reaching the third one I was scared to be killed… so I stayed behind and collected my points.

See you under the rain in Austria !!!

 

[MCL1974]

So my first online race in well over a year...

To prepare i did do a race earlier today on my alt account and there my pace during the race was good but qualifying was a bit poor.
Also made a livey, had no inspiration so settled for a "Stealth" design.

Then entered the 19:00 hrs race, a low B lobby...

Went out last for qualifying and first did a banker lap, just under 1.42, so focussed on my second lap and did a 1.41.7 and a bit which gave me third place, not unhappy with that lap.
First was a GTR, and a Toyota qualified second and that Toyota had terrible lag, only one red bar and the car was all over the place. Because of that I started with caution and I needed to brake early to avoid him (or not?). The Citroen behind me saw an oppertunity and overtook me at the Senna S, good move by him! So was now in fourth place, the lagging Toyota moved to the lead and was really annoying to other drivers. So settled for that fourth place and tried not to get distracted by his lag and decided to let the others in front off me do the dirty work.

After a few laps the Toyota crashed, no idea how, the replay did not show. Also the Citroen in second overtook the GTR and I was now third. From that moment on...nothing happened. The Citroen in first place had the GTR just behind him but the GTR could never really threaten him, Same for me with the GTR and the Beemer in fourth stayed about 1.5 seconds behind me. It stayed to this till the finish line although I got a bit close to the GTR once or twice, but never close enough to make a move. For a spectator a boring race but for me it was quite tense, focussing on doing those steady laps without any mistakes.

So third place, not a bad return. Really happy with my consistency though, first normal lap was a 1.42.7, last lap was a 1.42.3. and all others were between 1.42.4 and 1.42.6.

Was really miffed about that Toyota though, his lag really influenced the race and ruined the replay.

Not sure If I can do another race this Saturday due to work but for sure I will do the race at Blue Moon Bay next Wednesday.

 

[Moose78]

Team Ford - Mustang Gr.4 - GT2 - Americas - 11AM EST - 152 points available - Door #13 - Q9 (1:41.747)

A mostly uneventful race in a mixed A/S and B/S lobby. I spent the bulk of it in P8, with a big gap ahead and behind. On lap 9, I was finally able to tap into the slipstream of the cars ahead when one of them got a penalty. For the rest was at the tail end of a three-way race for P6. On the final turn, one of them went wide on the exit and I was able to pick up P7 to cross the line. I forgot to note how many points it got, but it was a 1.7% increase in DR.


Team Subaru - WRX Gr.4 - GT2 - Americas - 12PM EST - 153 points available - Door #16 - Q10 (1:41.722)

Another mixed lobby of A/S and B/S drivers. I spent pretty much all of this one in a four-way fight for P7. I picked up P9 in at T1 (pictured above). I picked up P8 a little while later in the same lap. It was messy. There was contact. The other driver went off the track. Arguably I should have waited up, but I didn't. From my perspective it seemed like a racing incident. Anyways, I held P8 from there to the finish for 108 points and DR bump of 1.0%.

Next on to Red Bull Ring for some rain. Sounds like fun!

 

[dazdilly75]

Slot 1 - GT1 League - Door #7 Q8: 1:40.917
P1 was 1:40.640 (in a Peugeot RCZ)
46K DR lobby.
After practicing with the Megane Trophy, I knew it wouldn't work for me in this round. Interlagos is a mix of power and handling, but it edges more towards the power side. The Megane Trophy was a sitting duck on both the straights. So I opted for the FF GT4 Megane. Which boasted 5 BHP more and only 10Kg more weight.

It was a no brainer. My laps in practice were almost a full second faster and instead of being the hunted on the straights, I was doing the hunting. The understeer wasn't actually that much of and issue because I was able to get on the power so early out of turns.

It was brutal but efficient. This race was the one I feared most, but it also gave me the biggest surprise, as I thread my way from 8th to 3rd, picking up on mistakes and takeouts happening in front of me. 201 points was my target and it was one and done. My love for Renault has only increased. This car had no right making it on the podium today. But we did it!

Happy days!

 

[TheWeapon874]

Pretty reasonable result for me I think. Door 11 in a full A+ lobby.

Two messy laps in qualy 0.8 off my best with a 1.40.8, which had me 4th. Pole was 1.40.7 so I figured I’d be a chance at the win.

That idea quickly evaporated when the guy in second started aggressively blocking and making contact with anyone who tried to pass from lap 1…

The leader pulled over a second while this guy messed everyone up. He binned the guy in 3rd on lap 7, so I sat behind until I thought I could make a decisive pass. Got on his inside on the approach to turn 1 and he turned left and put me in the wall before the braking zone.

Managed to recover for P3, but some people just shouldn’t be allowed to race in GTWS events….

Second slot is midnight for me, so I didn’t bother going again, as much as I’d have liked to. 238 points isn’t too bad though.

 

[TinleyPork]

Got a W today in a C lobby. It was my third try. Got into a pissing contest with a guy from Mexico trading paint after he bumped me to pass. I returned the favor, he punted my last lap to drop me from 4 to 10ish . Immediately started the next heat, got pushed off track again and rage quit.

Came back after lunch barely hanging on to C lobby status. Took the pole after letting the field get way ahead of me before attempting to qualify, thanks to this thread. Clean air and no traffic did the trick, got the victory and registered the fastest lap right around 1:43 flat, so not the fastest field but I'll take it.

 

[Wilsonson]

GT 2 EMEA all B/S lobbies

A forgettable first race: 133 pts lobby, door 8, Q10, P13 for 66 pts. Lots of barging, some outright dirty driving, many many mistakes by me.

Final slot for my 2nd race. Enter free practice and improve my PB to a 40.6. Nice.

A 129 pts lobby this time with me at door no. 7.

For qualifying I am waiting for clean air and leave the pits with a very nice gap to the car ahead guaranteeing 2 fast laps without traffic. 3 laps aren't possible anyways.

Everything clicked and I put it on pole with a 41 flat.

P2 had sent me a friend request a GTWS race or two ago which is why I was somewhat hopeful for a clean race.

I absolutely nailed the breaking point for T1 which is always tricky for me on the first lap because of the slower pace. Nice gap to P2 right from the start. They started to fight and I was able to pull away. Then a .5 second penalty. Oh no. But already a 3 second gap, keeping the lead.

Then I messed up a few corners and all of a sudden P2 got a run on me (and me going a bit wide opening the door) on the long left approach to the last slow corner.

Now here I am not quite sure if my move was clean. To shut the door I moved over to the apex shortly before he could get the overlap. Therefore he went on the grass maybe trying to squeeze by or trying to avoid going into my back I don't know. Was this clean or should I have left the door open when it was clear that he would get a run and would be able to pull along side me? Note that he wasn't there yet and I didn't run into the side of him. I got to the apex first but I kind of blocked him.

After this scary moment I once again pulled away little by little. On about lap 6 I cut T2 ever so slightly and got a 1 second penalty. I ended up P2 to the driver starting 6th with the rest of the pack a bit further back.

I had better pace but kept a tight but steady distance. The driver was consistent which was good. However they were a bit worse then me through both T2 and the final tight turn giving me two good spots to get a nice run for an easy pass.

On lap 11 they once again approached T2 too tightly giving them a poor exit into the long left T3. I was able to pull along on the straight and got the move done cleanly through T4.

My heart was racing all the way to the finish line being worried that I might stuff it up somewhere. But I managed to bring it home. Very happy.

 

[A_Higher_Place]

Anyone get an error message and get booted out 10 seconds before the race starts? I just missed the first slot because this happened...

 

[Moose78]

I have some numbers from early tests that I've done for Rd.4 at Red Bull Ring. I'm not sure how useful they will be given what's been shared so far about the weather, but here goes nothing...

I did tests on the RS and RM tires in afternoon, C02 weather and the 1x fuel and 3x tire multipliers we'll have in the race. I can get the RSs to last almost 20 laps. The RMs easily last the entire 28 laps. I tested the Ford GT Race Car '18 and Subaru BRZ GT300 '21 cars.

I've only had time to do one pass at each test, so the data is still a bit noisy.

Summary:

Manufacturer	Model	Tire compound	Laps	Opt time	Best time	Avg time	Total time
Subaru	BRZ GT300 '21	RS	20​	1:31.468​	1:31.900​	1:33.291​	31:05.812​
Subaru	BRZ GT300 '21	RM	28​	1:31.702​	1:32.279​	1:32.847​	43:19.704​
Ford	GT Race Car '18	RS	20​	1:30.616​	1:31.180​	1:32.767​	30:55.345​
Ford	GT Race Car '18	RM	28​	1:30.809​	1:31.590​	1:32.609​	43:13.057​

Tire tread levels at finish:

Manufacturer	Model	Tire compound	Laps	Front left	Front right	Rear left	Rear right
Subaru	BRZ GT300 '21	RS	20​	0%​	10%​	10%​	20%​
Subaru	BRZ GT300 '21	RM	28​	25%​	35%​	35%​	40%​
Ford	GT Race Car '18	RS	20​	5%​	20%​	5%​	15%​
Ford	GT Race Car '18	RM	28​	30%​	40%​	30%​	40%​

I'm guessing we'll need to switch to slicks for the latter part of the race while the track dries. Based on the lap times above, the RSs are the faster choice for me in the Subaru for any stint that is 15 laps or less. For the Ford, the RSs are the faster choice for stints 19 laps or less.

 

[TinleyPork]

I have some numbers from early tests that I've done for Rd.4 at Red Bull Ring. I'm not sure how useful they will be given what's been shared so far about the weather, but here goes nothing...

I did tests on the RS and RM tires in afternoon, C02 weather and the 1x fuel and 3x tire multipliers we'll have in the race. I can get the RSs to last almost 20 laps. The RMs easily last the entire 28 laps. I tested the Ford GT Race Car '18 and Subaru BRZ GT300 '21 cars.

I've only had time to do one pass at each test, so the data is still a bit noisy.

Summary:

Manufacturer	Model	Tire compound	Laps	Opt time	Best time	Avg time	Total time
Subaru	BRZ GT300 '21	RS	20​	1:31.468​	1:31.900​	1:33.291​	31:05.812​
Subaru	BRZ GT300 '21	RM	28​	1:31.702​	1:32.279​	1:32.847​	43:19.704​
Ford	GT Race Car '18	RS	20​	1:30.616​	1:31.180​	1:32.767​	30:55.345​
Ford	GT Race Car '18	RM	28​	1:30.809​	1:31.590​	1:32.609​	43:13.057​

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Tire tread levels at finish:

Manufacturer	Model	Tire compound	Laps	Front left	Front right	Rear left	Rear right
Subaru	BRZ GT300 '21	RS	20​	0%​	10%​	10%​	20%​
Subaru	BRZ GT300 '21	RM	28​	25%​	35%​	35%​	40%​
Ford	GT Race Car '18	RS	20​	5%​	20%​	5%​	15%​
Ford	GT Race Car '18	RM	28​	30%​	40%​	30%​	40%​

I'm guessing we'll need to switch to slicks for the latter part of the race while the track dries. Based on the lap times above, the RSs are the faster choice for me in the Subaru for any stint that is 15 laps or less. For the Ford, the RSs are the faster choice for stints 19 laps or less.

This is great info, but where are you seeing the details for the next race?

 

[Talon16]

Yea, I jumped on my AO account to do some laps at RBR "early" and it was wet weather tires for the first 10 laps (10 laps is all I did). Rain is definitely coming down but the cloud(s) were moving. Not sure when it'll get dry enough for slicks (if ever?) but seems similar to the Nations race back in January (and since it was a Nations race, many - myself included - picked the Ferrari). In that race, I did Wets to IMs and some did Wets to RS. Was interesting to see how it all came together in the end. THat race was also 28 laps (for GT1 only; GT2/3 was 14 if I recall).

Wonder if this one is a carbon copy. Guess we'll see.

 

[jimihemmy]

The tale of two lobbies……

8pm EST - GT2 - AMG 108 point lobby (main account, drB)
Door 16, Q14, P9

While I did not get any closer than P7, it was nothing but close and clean racing. Much respect to all of us in that lobby!

9pm EST - GT2 - Porsche 109 point lobby (main alt account, higher drB than my main)
Door 1, Q5, P12

Nothing but push to pass and poor race etiquette including the guy who served his penalty during the final lap and purposely cut in front of me when he unghosted that caused me to hit him and give him a boost(!) AND allowed the Viper behind me to catch up and slip by at the finish. All of that coupled with my own mistakes (including 3 one second penalties for T2 ) just made for a bad race.