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Gran Turismo World Series (Manufacturers Cup Exhibition Season: Feb 5 - Feb 15)
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Supra is still there? and the Peugeot VGT?
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If I were PD, I'd change the Daytona race to use any of these cars for a NASCAR style event:
Or if they want to make it Gr.3, then at least allow us to use the rarely used Silhouette. The Suzuki would've been interesting but idk what the meta is now and I don't feel like testing lest the race will just be a demolition derby and hours of my life wasted.
This season started with lots of promise with longer races and dynamic weather but feels like PD just gave up towards the end just when things start getting good. Pretty much GT7 in a nutshell.
- Mustang Gr.3 Road Car
- Silvia TC (with the ducktail spoiler)
- Superbird vs Charger
- Wicked Fab Ford 51 (Hudson Hornet look alike)
Or if they want to make it Gr.3, then at least allow us to use the rarely used Silhouette. The Suzuki would've been interesting but idk what the meta is now and I don't feel like testing lest the race will just be a demolition derby and hours of my life wasted.
This season started with lots of promise with longer races and dynamic weather but feels like PD just gave up towards the end just when things start getting good. Pretty much GT7 in a nutshell.
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Odd they removed the Suzuki as it doesn't really matter. As I said before, the community will now find a new META and there will be 16 of them instead of the Suzuki. Not sure what difference it makes...
Like when they removed the F40 from round 1. The grid went from a probable 16 F40s to 16 Ford GTs. Six of one, half dozen the other IMO.
Like when they removed the F40 from round 1. The grid went from a probable 16 F40s to 16 Ford GTs. Six of one, half dozen the other IMO.
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Not strictly true, I used the Mercedes-AMG and finished 3rd, the winner was also running it.
I'm wondering if for Daytona it's not going to be so simple. What if the Supra is becoming the Meta because it's got the lowest drag. Will it still be best in the slipstream when drag isn't so critical, quite likely most other cars will keep up with the pack no problem. The question then could be which gives the best slingshot finish for the sprint to the line?
Or which uses the least fuel, giving a faster pitstop and a chance to jump to the front of the pack? Maybe another car gives a better slipstream than the Supra, with a bit of bump drafting that might make it faster overall in the race. Currently the Supra is 0.166s faster than the best NSX, over 30 laps that's a mere 4.98s total.
More to the point, how the hell do we test any of these theories and pick the right car? Guess we don't, unless you're in the Asia Pacific region, we can watch the early streams instead.
I'm wondering if this is lawyers at work. Sony might be worried about Nascar suing their arse off if they let it turn into a NASCAR race full of unlicensed NASCAR liveries.
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I was 100% going to use an intimidator livery and be spamming chat with “RAISE HELL PRAISE DALE”
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I agree. Now that the Suzuki is gone, it could make a lot of cars competitive. Whatever the meta ends up being, there are going to be at least a handful of cars that can keep up in slipstream. That wasn't the situation when the Suzuki was in the race. It was just going to leave everything in the dust.
There's the million dollar question -- or the 20,000 Cr. one, as payouts go for online races.
I've only done a little bit of testing on this so far, but the few cars I did look at seemed pretty close to their BoP equivalents. I'm guessing the changes have been mainly to the downforce settings, but of course there's no way to know for sure. You might be able to get a decent approximation by doing Gr.3 BoP custom races. That's what I'm planning to do, anyways.
Enough about next week's Nations Cup race, though. What's going on with this week's Manu Cup at Catalunya?
I see that GT Engine has posted the Lap time - DR correlations chart for this round: https://gt-engine.com/gt7/races/race-stats/lap-time-dr/23-24-ex1/lap-time-dr-23-24-ex1-rd5.html. Happy to see that my best lap (1:42.951) is sitting above the line for my DR.
I had my suspension tune and strategy (16H) figured out last week, since the SSRX race required no preparation. I've been spending most of my prep time this week doing custom races against the AI.
Can I just say how nice it is to be getting a decent payout on these since the upgrade came out? It may not be the million-credit payout from the rubber-band trick at Daytona, but it sure is better than the ~38K it used to be.
I really wish Sophy was available at this track and for custom races, though. I feel like I've figured out the quirks of the regular AI drivers now. I know some lines to get around them, but I don't know how helpful that is going to be against real human drivers. I have my doubts. Oh well, it is what it is.
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GT1, or GT2/3? I'm running no-stop for GT2, though I'm surprised how many people in practice lobbies keep running 1 stoppers with the massive pit-lane loss. Maybe it will work for some, but I can't gain enough time on the mediums to justify it when I can just run 1:44.xxx for 16 laps on hards.
I've run a couple GT1 lobbies just for fun (I like the longer race), and I think I could stretch a 1 stopper going 20H/13M but haven't tried. The left front would be cooked at the end of both stints (AMG '20), at least with my driving, so I'd be hesitant without trying it in a practice race a couple times myself.
All assuming no weather issues of course
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There is no weather at CatalunyaGT1, or GT2/3? I'm running no-stop for GT2, though I'm surprised how many people in practice lobbies keep running 1 stoppers with the massive pit-lane loss. Maybe it will work for some, but I can't gain enough time on the mediums to justify it when I can just run 1:44.xxx for 16 laps on hards.
I've run a couple GT1 lobbies just for fun (I like the longer race), and I think I could stretch a 1 stopper going 20H/13M but haven't tried. The left front would be cooked at the end of both stints (AMG '20), at least with my driving, so I'd be hesitant without trying it in a practice race a couple times myself.
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I’m in GT1 but my other members are GT2/3 drivers… are you suggesting for them to just stay on the hards for the whole 16 Laps? Yea I’m thinking of going 21 laps and then 12 on mediums.. I didn’t think of just doing a one stop until I saw some streamers practicing for it.GT1, or GT2/3? I'm running no-stop for GT2, though I'm surprised how many people in practice lobbies keep running 1 stoppers with the massive pit-lane loss. Maybe it will work for some, but I can't gain enough time on the mediums to justify it when I can just run 1:44.xxx for 16 laps on hards.
I've run a couple GT1 lobbies just for fun (I like the longer race), and I think I could stretch a 1 stopper going 20H/13M but haven't tried. The left front would be cooked at the end of both stints (AMG '20), at least with my driving, so I'd be hesitant without trying it in a practice race a couple times myself.
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So you just staying on the RH tires?
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Yes, I'm suggesting a no-stopper on RH for GT2/3.
I gain about 1-1.5 seconds a lap on RM, so I'm gaining about 10-15 seconds before switching to the RH. The pit loss is like 40 seconds or something huge like that, so the math doesn't work out. I can't get 3-4 seconds a lap between RM and RH to get it to work out.
For example, I ran in a lobby last night to verify my testing. I started pole, dropped to 2nd immediately to a guy on RM. I think he was in a 911, I'm in the AMG. I dropped back to about 8 seconds off the lead, until around lap 9, then I started gaining time back as his tires fall off. Lap 12 he pits, his mediums were basically trashed and my RH were at 50%, and I was 4-5 seconds back.. I ended up winning by ~30 seconds, 30% tire life left, with no drop off in pace.
As always YMMV, but I don't see a pit stop working out. I guess if your car is hell on tires and you can't get the RH to last maybe it's different, but that's not my case.
Edit: I'm not a GT1 driver, but I like your plan if the tires will last, based on the one race I did with GT1 guys. I gotta say, I'm jealous of the longer races, it was fun putting a race together like that.
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I don’t know why I picked Ferrari other than the cars sound nice, but MR having an advantage on tire wear this week is nice. I felt like I had a decent tire wear advantage at GVH1 too but that is literally just a feeling.
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Can't blame you going with Ferrari, the Gr. 4 458 is nice. I generally get on better with FR cars at this point, but as MR goes I really like it and the NSX. and yeah, the sound of the 458 never gets old. I used to default to he 458 in Gr. 4, and the RX Vision in Gr. 3 for non-stop screaming engines
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15.87598 Fords per race, on average, overall. That better?
Doubt it. There are already hundreds of NASCAR liveries out there (as well as F1 liveries, IMSA liveries, etc., etc., etc.) being used all the time.
Was in a practice lobby last night (which was set to 16 laps) and was able to make them all pretty easy on a set of RH tires in the NSX. The lefts were hurting by the end, but there was still life left in them.
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