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Gran Turismo World Series (Nations Cup Exhibition Season: Jan 22 - Feb 1)
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I have an idea for something that would be super cool if it was added to the game. Wasn't sure where to put this but because Nations/Manu races often involve some sort of strategy, here it goes. Something to show the pit delta on the mini map. Stick with me here...
So we all know the mini map in the upper right shows the track, your car in red, and opponent cars in blue. Personally I find this mini map to be virtually useless. BUT, it would be awesome if they could add a visual on the mini map as to where you'd come out once you pit. It could get a little convoluted as there are multiple options while pitting, but I think it could work.
So, in addition to the red and blue triangles representing cars, they could make lines in different colors that represent pit deltas/losses. Even if the strat is very straight forward, the game doesn't know what the user is going to do. So, something like this:
Green line for a stop and go
Orange line for tires only
Purple line for fuel only (let's assume fueling to the 'diamond' as a constant)
Yellow line for tires and fuel
So the lines would follow your car around the track, at the appropriate deltas. Ie, the green line would be 20 seconds behind, the orange line would be 25 seconds behind, etc.
There are so many times I've thought about changing up strats on the fly (maybe being held up by someone, maybe try and undercut, maybe tires are dying quick, maybe damage, etc.) and pitting at a different lap than originally planned and it'd really nice to know where I'd pop out of the pits. Doesn't do much good to try and undercut if you just end up in traffic! Obviously real teams know this information but since we're doing this all on our own, it would be super cool.
It'll never happen, but it'd be a lot cooler if it did.
So we all know the mini map in the upper right shows the track, your car in red, and opponent cars in blue. Personally I find this mini map to be virtually useless. BUT, it would be awesome if they could add a visual on the mini map as to where you'd come out once you pit. It could get a little convoluted as there are multiple options while pitting, but I think it could work.
So, in addition to the red and blue triangles representing cars, they could make lines in different colors that represent pit deltas/losses. Even if the strat is very straight forward, the game doesn't know what the user is going to do. So, something like this:
Green line for a stop and go
Orange line for tires only
Purple line for fuel only (let's assume fueling to the 'diamond' as a constant)
Yellow line for tires and fuel
So the lines would follow your car around the track, at the appropriate deltas. Ie, the green line would be 20 seconds behind, the orange line would be 25 seconds behind, etc.
There are so many times I've thought about changing up strats on the fly (maybe being held up by someone, maybe try and undercut, maybe tires are dying quick, maybe damage, etc.) and pitting at a different lap than originally planned and it'd really nice to know where I'd pop out of the pits. Doesn't do much good to try and undercut if you just end up in traffic! Obviously real teams know this information but since we're doing this all on our own, it would be super cool.
It'll never happen, but it'd be a lot cooler if it did.
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My first Nations round in a long time and first one I've been able to do in the new-ish Canadian account. Interlagos is not a track I like. Superformula is not a car I like… so I didn't practice at all during the week and only did one race in EMEA in the afternoon to get a feel for it. It was horrible but I understood the combo a little better. A few minutes before the NA race, Mrs. Spider gave me permissio to run slot 1. I had time to kill, so why not?
I was happy to see @GTWolverine in the lobby! It made me a bit nervous because (i) the risk of friendly fire in these cars is high, (ii) I knew any damage was essentially race over and (iii) I am not taking this Nations seriously (first round I actually do), so I didn't want to interfere in any in his result/season.
It started pretty well!! I qualified reasonably well and we made a couple of positions on L1. I knew I had decent pace (and usually good tyre wear), so all I needed to do was stick with the Wolverine and wait for others do die. Little did I know, I would be one of the first to die 🫠
On lap 2 I binned it completely by myself and that was race over 😅. At least it was by my own hands and I didn't wreck other people with me. Don't even know where I finished the race after that… I was mostly keeping watch of Equus making ground through the leaderboard and cheering for him.
Congratulations once again for that win @GTWolverine ! Very well deserved and already a fantastic season in the bag, regardless of whatever comes up in that final round.
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Every PSVR2 user: "the what now?"
I have the brake zone assist on not because I use it for braking information, which would be preposterous, but because I have so little information in VR and so much ADHD that it keeps me awake and focused a dozen laps in.
I'd be thrilled if they added even the full minimap with track positions of cars into the MFD as a page as is. Give me the leaderboard with deltas and tires and they'll need to add a new interior cleaning option into GT Auto.
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I enjoyed this race a lot. I love Interlagos and the Super Formula is great if tough to drive for a GT3 DR B driver like myself. Since this was an open wheeler at Interlagos I decided to look for a livery for the very first time to honor Senna. Guess I am addicted to liveries now.
I was able to do the first 2 and then all 5 of last races. Overall I am pleased with myself. However I binned it a lot and unfortunately also punted a total of what was easily 5 people over those races. Almost all of those were slamming into their backs because I drove my qualifying racing line like an idiot without regards for the possibility of people breaking way too early. I have a lot to learn when it comes to race craft.
In addition to the standard values in GranTracker I also add my qualifying time as well as overall race time and my personal delta to the race winner.
Getting a decent 2nd place for 61 points and was a pleasant conclusion of the day. My performance was all over the place. Highs of a 15.7 miracle lap in quali in top split as well as a start finish win without a single mistake at sub 26:20 race pace. Lows of completely binning it multiple times (in multiple races) and even getting lapped once.
The most notable race was the 2nd to last. After my perfect race (I caught the pole sitter through Senna S and never looked back) I inexplicably found myself in GT3 top split and the race with the highest point haul of the whole day. I was wondering wether my getting to 15,000 DR points after the win had anything to do with it. Maybe PD pools players within certain DR brackets and 15k was the cutoff to the next higher one. While I often had one of the highest "door numbers" in all the other race which netted between 64 and 74 points it must have been last in this one. 104 points translates to a 20,800 DR average. I also looked through the current standings and the 100 points p2 got are the highest anyone got this race. The winner must have ran again and only got 80 at the end.
Miraculously I didn't botch qualifying this time. But not only that. I matched my pb from extensive free practice and slammed down a 15.7. I knew the pole sitter from race 6 (my 3rd) which he domiated in 26:10 race pace.
I stay on softs hoping that I may be able to stay with the top dogs at the beginning. I have also seen many (also good) drivers doing only 10 or 12 lap stints on softs (including the pole sitter in the earlier race with him). I hoped that maybe my 15/16 laps that I usually got out of them might give me a chance. The race starts and I immediately pull along side and overtake him through Senna S and Curva do Sol. My heart pounds because I know that I have absolutely no business winning this race and also that pulling off another miracle (that is not making any mistakes) is far from likely. The top 7 all had sub 16.3 qualifying times. If they could pull that pace off during a whole race then they were clearly better than me. But I would have loved to give them a fight. A couple seconds later came turn 4...
Google Translate tells me that Descida do Lago means descent from the lake. It was more like descent down into the lake for me. I started to nail this corner throughout the day. At least compared to most of my fellow GT3 drivers. This time I went a bit wide. Maybe because I had gotten punted from people doing insane sends at this corner 2 times before and was worried about it. Everybody behaved. But having all these guys breathing down my neck I did what I do best. I panicked and overcorrected a slight slide over the green curb and completely binned it heads on into the wall on the left. Well, that was it. I finished the race but the decent competition plus a couple more mistakes and crashes lead to me getting lapped. The winning time of 26:14 wasn't even that insane (they probably fought a lot to be fair) so a clean race my have gotten me into the top 5. But well, clean races aren't my strong point. To date I have done 36 online races in GT7 and gotten the CRB exactly 3 times.
Unfortunately I didn't save the replay. I will do this next time and try and put some nice pics into the post. Online racing is great fun and this comunity is very helpful. Thanks to all for sharing strategies and other tips.
I was able to do the first 2 and then all 5 of last races. Overall I am pleased with myself. However I binned it a lot and unfortunately also punted a total of what was easily 5 people over those races. Almost all of those were slamming into their backs because I drove my qualifying racing line like an idiot without regards for the possibility of people breaking way too early. I have a lot to learn when it comes to race craft.
In addition to the standard values in GranTracker I also add my qualifying time as well as overall race time and my personal delta to the race winner.
Getting a decent 2nd place for 61 points and was a pleasant conclusion of the day. My performance was all over the place. Highs of a 15.7 miracle lap in quali in top split as well as a start finish win without a single mistake at sub 26:20 race pace. Lows of completely binning it multiple times (in multiple races) and even getting lapped once.
The most notable race was the 2nd to last. After my perfect race (I caught the pole sitter through Senna S and never looked back) I inexplicably found myself in GT3 top split and the race with the highest point haul of the whole day. I was wondering wether my getting to 15,000 DR points after the win had anything to do with it. Maybe PD pools players within certain DR brackets and 15k was the cutoff to the next higher one. While I often had one of the highest "door numbers" in all the other race which netted between 64 and 74 points it must have been last in this one. 104 points translates to a 20,800 DR average. I also looked through the current standings and the 100 points p2 got are the highest anyone got this race. The winner must have ran again and only got 80 at the end.
Miraculously I didn't botch qualifying this time. But not only that. I matched my pb from extensive free practice and slammed down a 15.7. I knew the pole sitter from race 6 (my 3rd) which he domiated in 26:10 race pace.
I stay on softs hoping that I may be able to stay with the top dogs at the beginning. I have also seen many (also good) drivers doing only 10 or 12 lap stints on softs (including the pole sitter in the earlier race with him). I hoped that maybe my 15/16 laps that I usually got out of them might give me a chance. The race starts and I immediately pull along side and overtake him through Senna S and Curva do Sol. My heart pounds because I know that I have absolutely no business winning this race and also that pulling off another miracle (that is not making any mistakes) is far from likely. The top 7 all had sub 16.3 qualifying times. If they could pull that pace off during a whole race then they were clearly better than me. But I would have loved to give them a fight. A couple seconds later came turn 4...
Google Translate tells me that Descida do Lago means descent from the lake. It was more like descent down into the lake for me. I started to nail this corner throughout the day. At least compared to most of my fellow GT3 drivers. This time I went a bit wide. Maybe because I had gotten punted from people doing insane sends at this corner 2 times before and was worried about it. Everybody behaved. But having all these guys breathing down my neck I did what I do best. I panicked and overcorrected a slight slide over the green curb and completely binned it heads on into the wall on the left. Well, that was it. I finished the race but the decent competition plus a couple more mistakes and crashes lead to me getting lapped. The winning time of 26:14 wasn't even that insane (they probably fought a lot to be fair) so a clean race my have gotten me into the top 5. But well, clean races aren't my strong point. To date I have done 36 online races in GT7 and gotten the CRB exactly 3 times.
Unfortunately I didn't save the replay. I will do this next time and try and put some nice pics into the post. Online racing is great fun and this comunity is very helpful. Thanks to all for sharing strategies and other tips.
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Interlagos isn't that bad. You only have to worry about getting punted on turn 1. and turn 4. and 8 & 10 obviously. and also 12 there at the end.
and then there's falling victim to your own shortcomings in 2 and 9.
and then there's falling victim to your own shortcomings in 2 and 9.
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- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
Anyone besides me work on their potential GTWS manufacturer tunes based on what new tuning parameters PD gives us on the dailies?
Since them allowing LSD tuning this week, I’ve probably put in a good 8 hours, just Messi g around trying to figure out a good tune for my Gr.3 458
Since them allowing LSD tuning this week, I’ve probably put in a good 8 hours, just Messi g around trying to figure out a good tune for my Gr.3 458
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Definitely had a very... Interesting time yesterday. NA, high A/S, as usual... I'm still without my wheel, since Fanatec is claiming they never got it (UPS states otherwise). After some practice I found this combo surprisingly decent with a controller though.
Slot 1 - This was indeed the race with @Pfei and @SPL170db. Qualified 3rd behind those two, debated for a while, finally decided to start on Mediums. The guy in 2nd accidentally shifted into reverse somehow, promoting me instantly into 2nd, but SPL and Pfei were on Softs so they quickly pulled away. A Canadian driver on mediums passed me and eased away a couple seconds, but I had a big gap on 5th as I came in for my stop after 13 laps, earlier than most of the other medium runners. The Canadian driver didn't come in until lap 17, by which point I had undercut him and was closing in on the top 2 now on Mediums. They both made small mistakes and let me by, but by now the Canadian was within a couple seconds. With 6 laps to go and on much better tires, he got past pretty easily at turn 1, but I got a good exit and couldn't help myself from going for the move... You guessed it, he broke a fraction earlier and we both got damage. We kept racing and he returned the favor at the last turn, now giving us both double aero damage. The two medium runners and one other easily disposed of us, I got past the Canadian with an, ahem, aggressive move at T1, and got 4th. Normally I would quit with that but I knew I could do better...
Slot 2 - I immediately noticed the presence of the same Canadian driver in the lobby. He qualified 1st, and I ended up 3rd. Into T1 you can probably guess what happened... He broke early into T1, I didn't as much, more broken wings. Down the straight I ended up behind him but still alongside on the right. He tried to get back to the line but wasn't clear, turning himself across me and into the wall and straight into a quit. With damage, I came in at the end of lap 1 to switch to softs and the 2-stop. I did a bunch of good, consistent laps and was 3rd by the end of lap 15 when I came in for a second set of softs, still in with a chance as the two ahead of me were going on to mediums. I was 9th coming out of the pits with a bunch of worn soft and new medium runners ahead of me, and I caught 2 of them at the same time on lap 17... They tripped over each other in the last turn, I ran into the back of one and boom, another broken front wing. I was 4th at that point, but all I could do was hang on for the rest of the race, ending up in 7th and saving my DR somehow after someone spun and someone else barely missed passing me. Without the damage I probably had the pace for 3rd. 1 more...
Slot 3 - Very different race, this one. I had number plate #1, still only qualified 3rd but at the start literally everyone ahead of and behind me tripped over each other, with damage, penalties, and spins all over the place. By the end of the 1st lap I had a 5-second lead (on mediums!), and only kept pulling it out, eventually winning by 30 seconds(!) despite losing my focus like 5 laps from the end.
Not a lot of points, but I'm so close to A+...
Slot 1 - This was indeed the race with @Pfei and @SPL170db. Qualified 3rd behind those two, debated for a while, finally decided to start on Mediums. The guy in 2nd accidentally shifted into reverse somehow, promoting me instantly into 2nd, but SPL and Pfei were on Softs so they quickly pulled away. A Canadian driver on mediums passed me and eased away a couple seconds, but I had a big gap on 5th as I came in for my stop after 13 laps, earlier than most of the other medium runners. The Canadian driver didn't come in until lap 17, by which point I had undercut him and was closing in on the top 2 now on Mediums. They both made small mistakes and let me by, but by now the Canadian was within a couple seconds. With 6 laps to go and on much better tires, he got past pretty easily at turn 1, but I got a good exit and couldn't help myself from going for the move... You guessed it, he broke a fraction earlier and we both got damage. We kept racing and he returned the favor at the last turn, now giving us both double aero damage. The two medium runners and one other easily disposed of us, I got past the Canadian with an, ahem, aggressive move at T1, and got 4th. Normally I would quit with that but I knew I could do better...
Slot 2 - I immediately noticed the presence of the same Canadian driver in the lobby. He qualified 1st, and I ended up 3rd. Into T1 you can probably guess what happened... He broke early into T1, I didn't as much, more broken wings. Down the straight I ended up behind him but still alongside on the right. He tried to get back to the line but wasn't clear, turning himself across me and into the wall and straight into a quit. With damage, I came in at the end of lap 1 to switch to softs and the 2-stop. I did a bunch of good, consistent laps and was 3rd by the end of lap 15 when I came in for a second set of softs, still in with a chance as the two ahead of me were going on to mediums. I was 9th coming out of the pits with a bunch of worn soft and new medium runners ahead of me, and I caught 2 of them at the same time on lap 17... They tripped over each other in the last turn, I ran into the back of one and boom, another broken front wing. I was 4th at that point, but all I could do was hang on for the rest of the race, ending up in 7th and saving my DR somehow after someone spun and someone else barely missed passing me. Without the damage I probably had the pace for 3rd. 1 more...
Slot 3 - Very different race, this one. I had number plate #1, still only qualified 3rd but at the start literally everyone ahead of and behind me tripped over each other, with damage, penalties, and spins all over the place. By the end of the 1st lap I had a 5-second lead (on mediums!), and only kept pulling it out, eventually winning by 30 seconds(!) despite losing my focus like 5 laps from the end.
Not a lot of points, but I'm so close to A+...
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The rumor says this could be Bvlgari "clock-car" around Tokyo. It's very possible since there was such a race on World Finals.
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Eight hours?! That's a negative, ghostrider.
This is why I don't like tooning, some are able to invest much more time than others to dial in their car. Not calling you out, YS, good on ya! But for the rest of us who can just do some practice laps and go, we are at a big disadvantage.
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I'm on team no-tune. Just adds "who watched some guy's youtube video?" in as a very important pre-race factor for people who do not have the time or aptitude to self-teach tuning. I'll watch the youtube video and do the tune, but I'd rather not and just worry about brake balance.
I'm not a smart man so I'd rather trust PD to get the BOP right, which may be naive, but again I said I'm not a smart man.
I'm not a smart man so I'd rather trust PD to get the BOP right, which may be naive, but again I said I'm not a smart man.
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- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
Here’s the thing, my new tune isn’t any faster than a stock GT3 458 BOP tune. If anything, it’s a taaaaaaaad slower.
Admittedly, I’m one that likes tinkering, so I don’t mind at all. I would say that most of that 8 hours, is figuring out how PD’s version of LSD tuning implementation works. And then how to use it to make the ****-box 458 better. My whole goal is to get better tire wear and a more predictably handling car. I didn’t find anymore tire wear (running full length custom races….namely the last GTWS Manu round at Gardens) but I was able to figure out how to tune the LSD so I could actually trail brake a 458 like a normal person without the fear of the rear end coming around on me. So that’s a win, I suppose. And after that, I made tweaks to my suspension setup being that I don’t have to set it up so understeery anymore - now that I have the LSD to help with that.
BUT!!!!!
I decided to go on YouTube.com and saw that my buddy Kireth made a video (🙄), where he just min-max’s everything. So when I get home from work, I’m going to see if taking that approach with the LSD is better, and if I wasted those 8 hours 😂
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Inb4 it's the Bulgari slab at SSRX for 2 laps...
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Round 3 of the 2023/2024 Gran Turismo World Series Exhibition Series 2, North America GT1 League, 10:00pm slot. Super Formula '23.
I mixed up the schedule for this series thinking the races were only on Saturdays, and missed Round 2. Too bad because I really like Fuji.
I like driving the Super Formula cars, but I couldn't find good pace here, only putting down a 1:16.3 in qualifying for P9 on the grid. This had me worried, as I was DR #1 in the lobby. The race starts, and I find myself into the grass right off the bat in turn 1. By the end of lap, I had drifted back to dead last, 14th.
Not knowing the other drivers tire strategies, I keep up my pace and catch the pack to pick a few positions off. I end up staying out too long and cycling through to the lead, then pitting finally for my Soft tires on lap 20. I exit the pits in P10, and use my fresh rubber to gain a few more positions. An unfortunate block by the wounded P6 driver coming to the white flag gives me some wing damage, but it wasn't enough to hurt my race. I finish P6, not too bad for falling to last at the start.
Full race recording in VR perspective below.
I mixed up the schedule for this series thinking the races were only on Saturdays, and missed Round 2. Too bad because I really like Fuji.
I like driving the Super Formula cars, but I couldn't find good pace here, only putting down a 1:16.3 in qualifying for P9 on the grid. This had me worried, as I was DR #1 in the lobby. The race starts, and I find myself into the grass right off the bat in turn 1. By the end of lap, I had drifted back to dead last, 14th.
Not knowing the other drivers tire strategies, I keep up my pace and catch the pack to pick a few positions off. I end up staying out too long and cycling through to the lead, then pitting finally for my Soft tires on lap 20. I exit the pits in P10, and use my fresh rubber to gain a few more positions. An unfortunate block by the wounded P6 driver coming to the white flag gives me some wing damage, but it wasn't enough to hurt my race. I finish P6, not too bad for falling to last at the start.
Full race recording in VR perspective below.
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The replay from my somewhat unexpected win in Rd.2 at Fuji. I'll upload Rd. 3 later.
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I doubt it. As things stand I imagine there won't be any of those for at least 6 months unless PD is planning on changing the GTWS schedule to add more live events now that they can have live audiences again.
I reckon there's likely going to be a couple of exhibition seasons to go through first over the next few months, before the official season that leads to the live events even begins.
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Here's my biggest "goodbye, tell my cat i love them" moment from the last race. I'm in the McLaren livery that ends up in the middle of the sandwich:
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Replay from my win at Interlagos (largely thanks to the front row tripping over each other at T1).
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Now that we are in between rounds -- or at least waiting to find out for sure what the final round of Nations will actually be -- I've started a little project to profile the Gr.4 and Gr.3 cars in various ways so that I have better idea what to expect from each manufacturer for the next round of the Manu Cup.
As I was surprised in the last round by the MAZDA3's poor tire life (though, in hindsight, I really shouldn't have been), my first round of tests is focusing on tire wear on Gr.4 cars. I've been doing lots of laps at Suzuka - East Course (i.e. just the esses), which is a great track for eating through tires. I've done a dozen cars so far, so there is still a way to go. I'll post the results here when I'm done.
Other things I'm hoping to test are fuel consumption (with and without fuel saving) and wet-weather handling. I'll also post those results here when I have them.
As I was surprised in the last round by the MAZDA3's poor tire life (though, in hindsight, I really shouldn't have been), my first round of tests is focusing on tire wear on Gr.4 cars. I've been doing lots of laps at Suzuka - East Course (i.e. just the esses), which is a great track for eating through tires. I've done a dozen cars so far, so there is still a way to go. I'll post the results here when I'm done.
Other things I'm hoping to test are fuel consumption (with and without fuel saving) and wet-weather handling. I'll also post those results here when I have them.
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Last round is in the Jimny at Lake Louise short
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Will SR updates be on? This could be an absolute disaster zone.
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