Group C Endurance League Starting Saturday January 4th, 2025, Open 7pm, Qualifying 8pm, Race 8:45pm Eastern USOpen

[Cold Warrior]

I dont care about Points, I mentioned that many times. We are both going to watch the other GR1 cars leave us at BMB and LeMans, niether have top speed.

I planned to sacrifice the High-Speed Ring and Blue Moon Races. I'm not as a worried about Le Mans. We're running the with the chicanes at Le Mans this year. The additional heavy braking zones benefit the hybrids boosted cars greatly. And I think the hybrid boost will help at Watkins Glen Long Course as well.

The LM55 top speed should be better the 2011 R18. OCR_GUI_JOSA. Where you lost out at High-Speed Ring was high speed cornering. When I may or may not have tested competitors cars. I learned that at minimal downforce the R18 was still able run turn 6 over 185 mph without fine tuning to improve it farther. My car was around low 170s. Your Mazda was only slightly better than. Meaning OCR_GUI_JOSA was entering the front straightaway at least 10 mph higher than you.

 

[fastone371]

The Audi was about 5mph faster down the straight than I was. Remember, having the ability to adjust downforce and suspension can have huge effect. I found over 3 seconds at BMB yesterday with tuning.

 

[Cold Warrior]

Special Event Announcement

I got to working finishing that special event. I decided to use one of the track that was cut from the 2024 season. The classes will be split into 2 separate lap races both about 30 minutes each.

The races are scheduled for Saturday June 1st. The venue will be Sainte-Croix A Forward layout for both races. Despite being the premier layout this track is generally ignored by even Gran Turismo. I have yet to host on myself in GTS or GT7. Making the layouts characteristics a mystery to many.

From testing to determine fuel and tire multipliers. I will say the A layout has a very stop go like feel to it. Besides that what kind of setup or pit strategy work for it I can't say. So I think it's perfect for an event that will act like an All-star event for us. I am still finalizing timing and how for to space the races apart. Besides that this event is set.

6/1, Sp. No BOP St. Croix A Double Header

Gr.3 Race Details
Gr.3 Only, No Car Change Restrictions, No BOP, Circuit de Sainte-Croix A Forward, 10 Laps, Late Morning Start, Time Change x3, Night Driving No, Weather Change Random, Rain No, Tires Required None, Tires x8, Fuel x3, Fuel At Start 96%, No Qualifying, Field Set By Random Draw Upon First Room Entry, Corner Penalties Strong, Pit Line Penalty On, Contact Penalty Off, No Points

Gr.1 Race Details
Gr.1 Only, No Car Change Restrictions, No BOP, Circuit de Sainte-Croix A Forward, 11 Laps, Afternoon Start, Time Change x3, Night Driving No, Weather Change Random, Rain No, Tires Required None, Tires x8, Fuel x4, Fuel At Start 96%, No Qualifying, Field Set By Random Draw Picked By Gr.3 Race Results, Corner Penalties Strong, Pit Line Penalty On, Contact Penalty Off, No Points

 

[Cold Warrior]

Reminder no race this week due to Mother's Day. Only 10 days our race next Saturday at the Blue Moon Bay Oval. This race is Gr.1 only. The feature race distance is 250 miles 126 laps. This race is a salute the IndyCar and past Gran Turismo events from previous games. Sadly I have found no examples oval track racing in with prototypes. If Gr.3 regulars need recommendations don't be afraid to ask.

Next Race

5/18, 13. Blue Moon Bay 250 Miles (Gr.1 Only)
Race Details
Blue Moon Bay Full Course Forward (Oval), 126 Laps Race, 251.9 Miles (405.5 km), Late Morning Start, Time Change x2, Night Driving No, Weather Change Random, Rain No, Tires Required None, Tires x4, Fuel x3, Fuel At Start 97%, 20 Laps Qualifying Race, Corner Penalties None, Wall Penalties None, Pit Line Penalty On, Contact Penalty Off, x1 Points Payout

 

[Cold Warrior]

Hey guys I don't usually like to do last minute changes but, I've discovered tire wear for our race at the Blue Moon Bay Oval is higher than intend. One of the updates since testing in December must have increase it here. So I've decided to lower tire wear from x4 to x3. I may lower it farther if I feel it needs to be. Busy tonight I'll have to more testing later. Updated race details below.

Next Race

5/18, 13. Blue Moon Bay 250 Miles (Gr.1 Only)
Race Details
Blue Moon Bay Full Course Forward (Oval), 126 Laps Race, 251.9 Miles (405.5 km), Late Morning Start, Time Change x2, Night Driving No, Weather Change Random, Rain No, Tires Required None, Tires x3, Fuel x3, Fuel At Start 97%, 20 Laps Qualifying Race, Corner Penalties None, Wall Penalties None, Pit Line Penalty On, Contact Penalty Off, x1 Points Payout

 

[fastone371]

Hey guys I don't usually like to do last minute changes but, I've discovered tire wear for our race at the Blue Moon Bay Oval is higher than intend. One of the updates since testing in December must have increase it here. So I've decided to lower tire wear from x4 to x3. I may lower it farther if I feel it needs to be. Busy tonight I'll have to more testing later. Updated race details below.

Next Race

5/18, 13. Blue Moon Bay 250 Miles (Gr.1 Only)
Race Details
Blue Moon Bay Full Course Forward (Oval), 126 Laps Race, 251.9 Miles (405.5 km), Late Morning Start, Time Change x2, Night Driving No, Weather Change Random, Rain No, Tires Required None, Tires x3, Fuel x3, Fuel At Start 97%, 20 Laps Qualifying Race, Corner Penalties None, Wall Penalties None, Pit Line Penalty On, Contact Penalty Off, x1 Points Payout

I want tire wear as high as possible, I feel it gives me an advantage. 🙂 🙂

 

[Cold Warrior]

I want tire wear as high as possible, I feel it gives me an advantage. 🙂 🙂

I thought you were switching cars? I want RH to last a fuel run for at least a majority of cars in the class. Unfortunately this tire wear change has made it that only some cars will require a pit stop for the Qualifier. So I might have to force a pit stop.

 

[fastone371]

I thought you were switching cars? I want RH to last a fuel run for at least a majority of cars in the class. Unfortunately this tire wear change has made it that only some cars will require a pit stop for the Qualifier. So I might have to force a pit stop.

I will know after this weekend after some more testing. Only have a couple hours Sat and Sun mornings log on.

 

[Cold Warrior]

Hey guys reminder no race tonight. We race next Saturday at the Blue Moon Bay Oval. Even with the tire wear decrease. There are a few cars in the class that may not be able to run the 20 lap sprint without stopping even Hards. So to be fair. I've decided to mandate a tire change for the qualifier to force at pit stop. A set of Hards and Mediums must be used during qualifying. There is still no tire requirements for feature race. This is only for qualifying.

Next Race

5/18, 13. Blue Moon Bay 250 Miles (Gr.1 Only)
Race Details
Blue Moon Bay Full Course Forward (Oval), 126 Laps Race, 251.9 Miles (405.5 km), Late Morning Start, Time Change x2, Night Driving No, Weather Change Random, Rain No, Tires Required None, Tires x3, Fuel x3, Fuel At Start 97%, 20 Laps Qualifying Race, Qualifying Tires Required RH RM, Corner Penalties None, Wall Penalties None, Pit Line Penalty On, Contact Penalty On, x1 Points Payout

 

[Cold Warrior]

Hey guys hope you enjoyed your weekend off. Only 4 days until our race at the Blue Moon Bay Oval. Reminder this is a Gr.1 only race. Gr.3 drivers may join the fun if they wish. I will provide car suggestions upon request.

 

[Cold Warrior]

Hey guys 2 days until our next at the Blue Moon Oval. Remember no Gr.3 for this race. We get another week off after this before our No BOP Special and Le Mans races which are back to back. All race details posted below.

Next Race

5/18, 13. Blue Moon Bay 250 Miles (Gr.1 Only)

Race Details
Blue Moon Bay Full Course Forward (Oval), 126 Laps Race, 251.9 Miles (405.5 km), Late Morning Start, Time Change x2, Night Driving No, Weather Change Random, Rain No, Tires Required None, Tires x3, Fuel x3, Fuel At Start 97%, 20 Laps Qualifying Race, Qualifying Tires Required RH RM, Corner Penalties None, Wall Penalties None, Pit Line Penalty On, Contact Penalty On, x1 Points Payout

Following Race

6/8, 14. 2nd Annual 2 Hours of Le Mans

Race Details
24 Hours du Mans Race Track Full Circuit, 2 Hour Races, Afternoon Start, Time Change x12, Night Driving Yes, Weather Change Custom, Rain Maybe, Tires Required None, Tires x6, Fuel x3, Fuel At Start 94%, 20 Minutes GT Group Qualifying, Corner Penalties Strong, Wall Penalties None, Pit Line Penalty On, Contact Penalty On, x2 Points Payout

Special Event

6/1, Sp. No BOP St. Croix A Double Header

Gr.3 Race Details (Race Start 8:30pm EDT)
Gr.3 Only, No Car Change Restrictions, No BOP, Circuit de Sainte-Croix A Forward, 10 Laps, Late Morning Start, Time Change x3, Night Driving No, Weather Change Random, Rain No, Tires Required None, Tires x8, Fuel x3, Fuel At Start 96%, No Qualifying, Field Set By Random Draw Upon First Room Entry, Corner Penalties Strong, Pit Line Penalty On, Contact Penalty Off, No Points

6/1, Sp. No BOP St. Croix A Double Header

Gr.1 Race Details (Race Start 9:40pm EDT)
Gr.1 Only, No Car Change Restrictions, No BOP, Circuit de Sainte-Croix A Forward, 11 Laps, Afternoon Start, Time Change x3, Night Driving No, Weather Change Random, Rain No, Tires Required None, Tires x8, Fuel x4, Fuel At Start 96%, No Qualifying, Field Set By Random Draw Picked By Gr.3 Race Results, Corner Penalties Strong, Pit Line Penalty On, Contact Penalty Off, No Points

 

[Cold Warrior]

Less than 12 hours until we open. See you guys tonight.

 

[Cold Warrior]

Lobby is open!

 

[Cold Warrior]

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[Cold Warrior]

Race 13 Qualifier

Race 13 Results

Gr.1 Results

Pole Award: OCR_GUI_JOSA
Race Winner: OCR_GUI_JOSA
Fastest Lap: OCR_GUI_JOSA

No Gr.3 Results

Gr.1 Points Standings
Updated to Round 13, 5/18/24
Scoring Rounds Remaining 2
Position. PSN ID, Points Total, Wins
1. fastone371, 153 pts, 3 Wins
2. TheColdWarriors, 123 pts, 2 Wins
3. OCR_GUI_JOSA, 98 pts, 2 Wins
4. Michel-QC_21, 80 pts, 1 Win
5. poolshark3436, 2 pts

The top 4 Gr.1 drivers all can still mathematically able to win this championship with a maximum 96 points still available.

No Gr.3 Points Update

 

[Cold Warrior]

Remember no race next weekend. Our No BOP Double Header Special in 2 weeks. Our next points paying race the 2 Hours of Le Mans. The 2nd of 2 permanent stay events on this league's schedule. The other being the 2 Hours of Daytona Road Course. However unlike the Daytona race. The Le Mans swaps layouts with the full track taking even years.

Next Event

6/1, Sp. No BOP St. Croix A Double Header

Gr.3 Race Details (Race Start 8:30pm EDT)
Gr.3 Only, No Car Change Restrictions, No BOP, Circuit de Sainte-Croix A Forward, 10 Laps, Late Morning Start, Time Change x3, Night Driving No, Weather Change Random, Rain No, Tires Required None, Tires x8, Fuel x3, Fuel At Start 96%, No Qualifying, Field Set By Random Draw Upon First Room Entry, Corner Penalties Strong, Pit Line Penalty On, Contact Penalty Off, No Points

Gr.1 Race Details (Race Start 9:40pm EDT)
Gr.1 Only, No Car Change Restrictions, No BOP, Circuit de Sainte-Croix A Forward, 11 Laps, Afternoon Start, Time Change x3, Night Driving No, Weather Change Random, Rain No, Tires Required None, Tires x8, Fuel x4, Fuel At Start 96%, No Qualifying, Field Set By Random Draw Picked By Gr.3 Race Results, Corner Penalties Strong, Pit Line Penalty On, Contact Penalty Off, No Points

Next Points Race

6/8, 14. 2nd Annual 2 Hours of Le Mans

Race Details
24 Hours du Mans Race Track Full Circuit, 2 Hour Races, Afternoon Start, Time Change x12, Night Driving Yes, Weather Change Custom, Rain Maybe, Tires Required None, Tires x6, Fuel x3, Fuel At Start 94%, 20 Minutes GT Group Qualifying, Corner Penalties Strong, Wall Penalties None, Pit Line Penalty On, Contact Penalty On, x2 Points Payout

Following Points Race

6/22, 15. 1.5 Hours of Watkins Glen

Race Details
Watkins Glen International Long Course, 1.5 Hours Race, Late Morning Start, Time Change x8, Night Driving Yes, Weather Change Random, Rain No, Tires Required RH RM RS, Tires x6, Fuel x3, Fuel At Start 97%, 15 Minutes GT Group Qualifying, Corner Penalties Weak, Wall Penalties None, Pit Line Penalty Off, Contact Penalty On, x1.5 Points Payout

 

[Cold Warrior]

Hey guys with only 3 events left in this season is coming to end. This WEC / IMSA style sports car series will return in January 2025 should life allow it. I will likely take some time off before starting something this late summer fall seasons. I have a bunch of ideas I'm considering. I will like to hear what suggestions you guys would have. I willing to race just about everything. The biggest limitations would be how complicated an idea would be to organize. Please note I do not guarantee I would use your idea or anyone else's.

 

[fastone371]

Hey guys with only 3 events left in this season is coming to end. This WEC / IMSA style sports car series will return in January 2025 should life allow it. I will likely take some time off before starting something this late summer fall seasons. I have a bunch of ideas I'm considering. I will like to hear what suggestions you guys would have. I willing to race just about everything. The biggest limitations would be how complicated an idea would be to organize. Please note I do not guarantee I would use your idea or anyone else's.

One make, cool cars, not Civics and Priuses and hopefully under used cars, different car/track every race, BOP, no tuning.

 

[Cold Warrior]

One make, cool cars, not Civics and Priuses and hopefully under used cars, different car/track every race, BOP, no tuning.

That's essentially what I tried last year and it was not very popular. I had to cancel 2 events do to lack of attendance. Hey don't knock Prius races until you try them. And I very much like the New 2022 Civic. Best FWD car I've driven so far in my Gran Turismo career. Much better than that FWD Nissan Prototype.

 

[fastone371]

That's essentially what I tried last year and it was not very popular. I had to cancel 2 events do to lack of attendance. Hey don't knock Prius races until you try them. And I very much like the New 2022 Civic. Best FWD car I've driven so far in my Gran Turismo career. Much better than that FWD Nissan Prototype.

I have yet to drive a "good" FWD car. Race cars should be fast.

 

[Cold Warrior]

I have yet to drive a "good" FWD car. Race cars should be fast.

Speed doesn't always mean good racing

 

[fastone371]

Speed doesn't always mean good racing

No, but it certainly helps

 

[Poolshark3436]

One make, cool cars, not Civics and Priuses and hopefully under used cars, different car/track every race, BOP, no tuning.

Priuses are bad the 1 make race a couple weekends ago sucked in the Toyota cup event.

That being said fwd cars aren’t all bad some can be fun especially when they have decent suspension like the Gr.4 cars.

 

[Poolshark3436]

Hey guys with only 3 events left in this season is coming to end. This WEC / IMSA style sports car series will return in January 2025 should life allow it. I will likely take some time off before starting something this late summer fall seasons. I have a bunch of ideas I'm considering. I will like to hear what suggestions you guys would have. I willing to race just about everything. The biggest limitations would be how complicated an idea would be to organize. Please note I do not guarantee I would use your idea or anyone else's.

I have done a DTM event with the 88-90 190Evo, M3 and the ford. That produced good races and I might still have the lobby setup.

Also did do a Mazda cup event that was fun and had tight race but the day didn’t work well with that group.

 

[Poolshark3436]

One make, cool cars, not Civics and Priuses and hopefully under used cars, different car/track every race, BOP, no tuning.

Priuses are bad the 1 make race a couple weekends ago sucked in the Toyota cup event. That being said fwd can be fun but the cars need to be a decent handling car and not too underpowered because otherwise it is too hard to pass if you never have to brake.

 

[Cold Warrior]

No, but it certainly helps

As someone with a soft spot for slow car racing I disagree. Faster cars are more difficult to drive and make it more difficult to race in close proximity to other cars. Also the faster cars get the less passing opportunities are available. There are also techniques unique to racing underpowered cars that also require time and experience to learn.

 

[Cold Warrior]

I have done a DTM event with the 88-90 190Evo, M3 and the ford. That produced good races and I might still have the lobby setup.

Also did do a Mazda cup event that was fun and had tight race but the day didn’t work well with that group.

Priuses are bad the 1 make race a couple weekends ago sucked in the Toyota cup event. That being said fwd can be fun but the cars need to be a decent handling car and not too underpowered because otherwise it is too hard to pass if you never have to brake.

If Gran Turismo gave us more than just the classic Alfa DTM car I would consider. Also classic cars being not regularly in the Used or Legend dealers makes doing classic events for specific class and eras problematic. I very much like to a Group C series but, not everyone owns these cars.

So if I do something like a one-make series. It will have something in Brand Central that is not a invitation car. That being said I tried a one-make series last fall like fastone371 suggested with a different car every event and it didn't seem draw much attention.

And I really wanted to do that Prius race but, wasn't available that night to make it. I find the Prius performance capables impressive how little HP it has.

 

[fastone371]

As someone with a soft spot for slow car racing I disagree. Faster cars are more difficult to drive and make it more difficult to race in close proximity to other cars. Also the faster cars get the less passing opportunities are available. There are also techniques unique to racing underpowered cars that also require time and experience to learn.

I think the slow cars and close proximity racing is exactly what creates dirty tactics

 

[Cold Warrior]

I think the slow cars and close proximity racing is exactly what creates dirty tactics

Hey, as a slow car enthusiast I take offense to this claim. I raced plenty of clean slow car races. At the same time I had been hit by other players or I've accidentally hit someone else. If can't not hit people at 60 mph. You shouldn't be allowed on track.

 

[Poolshark3436]

If Gran Turismo gave us more than just the classic Alfa DTM car I would consider. Also classic cars being not regularly in the Used or Legend dealers makes doing classic events for specific class and eras problematic. I very much like to a Group C series but, not everyone owns these cars.

So if I do something like a one-make series. It will have something in Brand Central that is not a invitation car. That being said I tried a one-make series last fall like fastone371 suggested with a different car every event and it didn't seem draw much attention.

And I really wanted to do that Prius race but, wasn't available that night to make it. I find the Prius performance capables impressive how little HP it has.

You didn’t miss much it was basically pin the throttle and use the 1-2 cars outside of you to make the turn. Or just dive bomb your way into the car 3 seconds ahead of you. As a driver that prides myself on keeping my S SR rating it was complete hell I only did the 1 race instead of trying to improve my points in a later round.