GT Sport 1.05 Patch Arrives: Rebalanced BoP and Handling Changes

[Jules_r]

Last night I was trying to gold Mission Challenge Stage 8-7 Interlagos till late. I was racing well after midnight and when I was done recieved today's Daily Workout gift car. This morning I switched on, let 1.05 install and straight away I recieved the same Daily Workout gift car..... BMW M4 twice!

 

[WRECKU]

Yes half my car icons are gone.

 

[qwbufp]

Seriously. Messing with cars after the game is officially released is lame.

They keep adjusting car performance in real life with either success balast or BoP revisions so it’s not like they changed the base car. Only the relative performance when they race against each other.

 

[zzz_pt]

yeah... why don't we all drive 911 RSR GT3 so we all have a chance to win a race, right?



I'm pretty sure they will, in the next update. TOP 10s are infected with it.

I think that a lot of people just love the Porsche and are willing to go the extra mile to take the best out of it. It's a fast car of course but I'm not sure it's faster than all the others.

 

[graveltrap]

Cars should not be equal mate.BoP should make the cars perform close but not the same.
Some should have an advantage in slow or small tracks,others should have an advantage in bigger or faster or "whatever" tracks.
The point of BoP is to make a series (championship) a close affair.Its not to make every car the same.
With that said,BoP should work in a way that you dont have 1 or 2 cars dominating every track.That was not the case since from Closed Beta till this update,there were specific models/cars that could dominate in every single track.Its not something easy to do.Even in real life,FIA had big problems:remember when the gave a waiver to participe to Ford and pretty much failed with BoP that had a result of the "historic comeback and domination" of Ford GT (Le Mans)?
Anyway,I have not tested the game after the latest patch but everyone knows that BoP was not working.Hope this update made things better.

I disagree, the goal of BoP is that any car can win any race, its purpose is to create close racing, and not have the situation where on car dominates no matter what the track. In GT sport a lot of data is now being generated so better balance can be achieved and PD have made a decision to adjust it based on that data.

As you used the WEC, This year BoP in WEC is adjusted on a race per race basis by an automatic algorithm (the adjustments started following the data acquisition in the first two rounds). This is to try and maintain as balanced a field as possible in GTE, so any manufacture has the possibility of winning a race. Le Mans has a race specific BoP as the track is so different to anything else on the calendar this is predetermined at the start of the season.

Ford GTE didn't compete on a waiver from the FIA/ACO, the other manufactures agreed that it could race the GT in GTE form, the car was built to the same rules, the only problem being the road car was not available for homologation. Ford also sandbagged prior to Le Mans, they even got hit with a BoP adjustment after qualifying that year to try and slow them down... So it is constantly evolving thing in that Championship.

GT3 on the other hand is more rigid, it is set at the start of the season, which is why you see that some cars favour different types of tracks This is also why BoP is a big talking point in Blancpain for example...

 

[JulesDennis]

I disagree, the goal of BoP is that any car can win any race, its purpose is to create close racing, and not have the situation where on car dominates no matter what the track. In GT sport a lot of data is now being generated so better balance can be achieved and PD have made a decision to adjust it based on that data.

How do you disagree?I wrote the same thing.BoP is supposed to create close competitve races but not equal cars -or make all the cars the same-.
Some cars would have an advantage in a specific type of track due to their speqs but would not dominate every single track/race.
BTW they had a lot of data since the closed beta and after all that time they decided to change (will see how effective) the BoP in some cars that were clearly dominating every track in their class.

I think that a lot of people just love the Porsche and are willing to go the extra mile to take the best out of it. It's a fast car of course but I'm not sure it's faster than all the others.

I think that the 650S is faster (at least without tuning).

 

[Oelix]

The car icons regenerate themselves if you leave the screen alone for a moment.

Here is a request for the next patch: Replace the green smiley for the server status with something that fits with the overall menu design, that thing is horrid.

 

[graveltrap]

How do you disagree?I wrote the same thing.BoP is supposed to create close competitve races but not equal cars -or make all the cars the same-.
Some cars would have an advantage in a specific type of track due to their speqs but would not dominate every single track/race.
BTW they had a lot of data since the closed beta and after all that time they decided to change (will see how effective) the BoP in some cars that were clearly dominating every track in their class.

Maybe a misunderstanding? The cars should be able to set the same / similar lap times no matter what the track (equal), it is how they make that lap time that can be different... Some favour corner speed / some favour straight line performance, if one has an advantage over the other, the BoP has failed.

One thing that does bother me is that BoP required an update, rather than being a server side adjustment!

 

[FerrellJ]

I'm just happy they tweaked the ABS. The cars all understeered like pigs under ABS...

You want to see "understeer like pigs", turn ABS off. It was already doing a lot.

I haven't had a chance to try it out yet but this and the TC change rub me the wrong way. I don't know how extreme the change is but people are making it seem quite dramatic. In the past, you were always able to run faster with TC and ABS off but it required skill to do so. This sounds like someone only read the first half of that previous sentence and decided they needed to make a balance change.

I enjoy driving with TC off because it is simply more enjoyable to feel involved with the car. It takes a lot of concentration and practice to do but there was usually the reward of a faster lap time as a result.

ABS was already absurdly good- yes, the car will understeer until you start to lift off the brakes but that lift off is what allows you to turn into the corner properly.

"It is amazing how many drivers, even at the Formula One Level, think that the brakes are for slowing the car down."
-Mario Andretti

 

[Th3W1fe]

Pleased to see the Gr4 Evo has had a BoP increase. Will see what kind of difference its made later

 

[eSZee]

Who spent the last few hours running the Nurburgring, just for the update to come out and invalidate everything due to inability to save without downloading update? What a damn joke.

 

[Tandor]

Since they started tuning Bop settings I'm surprised that Mustangs weren't touched at all. Maybe because nobody drives them...

 

[MisterWaffles]

Who spent the last few hours running the Nurburgring, just for the update to come out and invalidate everything due to inability to save without downloading update? What a damn joke.

Again, plan your playtime around the server maintenance notices. They're there for a reason.

 

[qwbufp]

No you still get SR drops when rammed. Just got 20 seconds penalty in one race.

 

[eSZee]

Again, plan your playtime around the server maintenance notices. They're there for a reason.

k...

I looked at the maintenance notice in the game. It shows tuesday/wednesday times. I saw nothing about thursday/friday or any time listed for an upcoming update.

 

[GTCam]

I also lost my garage car images, but, after a few restarts of the game, they started to reappear

 

[djdest]

No need to restart, just let it sit on the garage page for a moment and they will start to load

 

[bjosim]

Waiting for more offline content, hopefully something will turn up eventually. Do we know for sure if this will happen?

 

[JulesDennis]

Waiting for more offline content, hopefully something will turn up eventually. Do we know for sure if this will happen?

What offline content mate?I've have not read anything anywhere that says they are going to add more more offline content.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Again, plan your playtime around the server maintenance notices. They're there for a reason.

Again, warnings don't make an awful system less awful.

 

[Scaff]

Seriously. Messing with cars after the game is officially released is lame.

BoP changes occur in reality quite frequently, for many series actually during the season.

Now GTS still has a way to go to get it right, and should we get DLC, it will need to keep doing it.

Its a good move from them, not a bad one.

 

[JulesDennis]

BoP changes occur in reality quite frequently, for many series actually during the season.

Now GTS still has a way to go to get it right, and should we get DLC, it will need to keep doing it.

Its a good move from them, not a bad one.

I agree.Changes is something that should have happened.
I was posted many times that BoP is not working and there was a need for change.If the updated BoP does not work then they should change it again.
We cannot have 1-2 cars dominate every single track.

 

[TomBrady]

Seriously. Messing with cars after the game is officially released is lame.

I don't think you're understanding the entire point of the BOP system. What's lame is having an unbalanced field of cars

I agree.Changes is something that should have happened.
I was posted many times that BoP is not working and there was a need for change.If the updated BoP does not work then they should change it again.
We cannot have 1-2 cars dominate every single track.

I also think they need to fix the road car classes. Remember the BMW M4 that was dominating the N300 class on that sport mode race at Brands Hatch? Yea, that sort of thing shouldn't happen. The M4 isn't even a N300 car but could be detuned to be one. I don't think PD put much work into balancing those, if any.

 

[P0T5]

So the money / xp glitch is patched whats the best way to rank up now after completing the game 100% ?

 

[Spitfire77]

The FFB changes were too much. It now just feels dull or less dynamic. I thought it sounded good but they should revert it back.

 

[Ryan Dungey]

k...

I looked at the maintenance notice in the game. It shows tuesday/wednesday times. I saw nothing about thursday/friday or any time listed for an upcoming update.

It cycles through the notices. There was a notice in game saying it was going down you just didn't see it.

 

[TS050]

So the money / xp glitch is patched whats the best way to rank up now after completing the game 100% ?

say what

 

[breyzipp]

Regarding to update - FIA GT Nations Cup and Manufacturers Cup are held in one day now - Nov. 4th and it seems the game unsubscribed me from my Nissan Deal.

In daily races - The Race A is now called one make, not the N100 etc...

Edit: also the calendar is changed, for the nations cup there is not the short Kyoto track as the 1st round race, but the long Kyoto track.

Also, Nissan cars in my garage as a deal of my signing are in my garage still as those borrowed from Nissan, there i think PD needs to retweak the update

I just gave this a try. Before the patch I signed up with Hyundai, after patching this morning I could even race with them. I now signed up with Citroen and got 2 cars of them but the pair of Hyundai are gone.

Are you sure you got 4 loan cars in total now?

 

[MisterWaffles]

say what

The 2-car, 24hr custom race with Gr.1 vs a Mazda Roadster on professional difficulty. Leave your PS4 on, go to sleep and farm mileage points/credits.

 

[TS050]

The 2-car, 24hr custom race with Gr.1 vs a Mazda Roadster on professional difficulty. Leave your PS4 on, go to sleep and farm mileage points/credits.

No, I knew about the glitch already. He said that it's been patched, which concerns me.