I Totally agree.Stop harassing the man and let others enjoy the game how they want. Please and thank you.
It's vice versa actuallyadd fiat under Chrysler as they own fiat.
Wtf are you smoking??? I’m having a convo with him, on a public forum. Harassment????? WHERE??? FFS, you need to go have a word with yourself.Stop harassing the man and let others enjoy the game how they want. Please and thank you.
“Hardly Unattainable” is extremely relative.
Each person has different priorities in the game, and different schedules.
How many Blue Moon races in a KTM does it take to earn 20mil? If a person has limited play time in a week, they have to make a choice - do I want to do sport mode, or online lobbies, or work on a livery, or work on a tune....or do I want to grind Blue Moon for credits? Keep in mind, majority of players who play GT know that those 20mil cars are useless outside of showing off in cruise lobbies. No one races them, if they’re in sport mode we’ll be given them for free....so what’s the incentive to actually get one, other than to say you have it?
Furthermore, once you get any of these 20mil cars, the default tune on them is complete junk, comes with the typical 60/90 damper setup (how generic can PD get???), so it’s not even anywhere close to a representation of what driving the real thing would be like. So you grind for X amount of hours to get nothing more than a 20mil skin that you can show off in a lobby (look how gud at teh game I are!!).
I grind 50+ hours a week, at my day job, so that when I get home, I can enjoy some virtual driving/racing, not so I can spend another X hours grinding for something that I payed money for.
Like I said before, if I want to drive a Mark IV GT40, or a Jag XJ220, or a Ferrari GTO, or a Ferrari 512, or a Porsche 917k, just to go for some hot laps to experience the car, I can do it right now in PCARS, with zero grinding - and it’ll be a more authentic experience on better circuits. Furthermore, I’ve put some effort into my life so that I don’t work for pennies per hour - meaning that the time it takes me to “grind the credits” in real life to buy PCARS along with GTS is a fraction of the time it would take for to grind the credits in GTS to be able to experience PD’s half arsed interpretation of a classic Le Mans car.
There’s no proper career in GTS, but at the same time certain cars are locked behind grind walls. It makes absolutely no sense as a game structure other than being beyond lazy at coming up with a format different from what we’ve seen over the last 15 years.
Even for someone who bought the game for sport mode to have to grind credits to be able to buy all the GT3 and GT4 cars that they’d like to use for online competition, it’s a complete waste of that person’s time.
Also just something else to keep in mind, and this is just my personal account, I just got the game a month ago. So, between getting up to speed in sport mode, completing campaign mode, sinking my teeth into the livery editor, photo mode, building my stable of highway cars with complete tunes, and enjoying online lobbies...when do I have time to grind close to 100 million credits to be able to afford the expensive cars? And what’s my motivation for doing so, other than to say, “look what I got”?
Duuude what on earth are you high on??? Why, as a third party to the convo, are you stepping in an making massive assumptions???I think you just need to stop for today, take a step back, and relax. You're clearly upset over this stuff. Let cooler heads prevail.
I think you just need to stop for today, take a step back, and relax. You're clearly upset over this stuff. Let cooler heads prevail.
You’ve accused me of harassing someone when I was just asking some questions to expand the conversation, and now you think I’m all worked up or something?? News flash, you are not Dr Phil, you don’t really know jack about squat.
And you continue your pattern from the Motorsport sub forum of responding to me without quoting or tagging me. Learn some proper forum edicate if you want to play white knight.
Then he can tag me, hence why I offered both options.It's clear you're losing it dude.
Proper forum etiquette is to not quote the post directly above yours. It's only become frequent due to the alert system.
How many races of grinding has it taken you?
What do you do with the 20mil cars that you already have? Do you drive them on a regular basis? Race them in a league?
Have you completely enjoyed all your grinding? Or does it feel like a chore that you do because you feel like you have to (note, you don’t, you can buy PCARS, used, for some $30 bucks and get the cars
It is clear you are losing it my friend.Then he can tag me, hence why I offered both options.
What about my posts indicates I’m losing it?
Why does everyone on GTP try to guess the state of mind of the people they are conversing with?
If anyone in this situation is upset, it’s the guy throwing around accusation of harassment. Everyone was having a perfectly good time until penguin opened his yap.
Whats clear is 3 folk jumping in on a conversation with nothing to add for themselves.It is clear you are losing it my friend.
Wtf are you smoking??? I’m having a convo with him, on a public forum. Harassment????? WHERE??? FFS, you need to go have a word with yourself.
This is perhaps the most blatant display of a person having absolutely no quality of character, to make the statement you just did. Seriously, do everyone a favour and retire from the internet. My god.
They’re only rants if you read them like rants.Well, I think he's right. You're going off on rants and clearly agitated by people's thoughts and opinions. You've also thrown unwarranted insults in the other thread.
we have got way off topic and derailed the thread.
We do have a big problem, It is you.They’re only rants if you read them like rants.
On the Internet, conflict is perceived the the receiver. You guys are the ones who have some sort of issue, and you’re projecting your issues onto my posts, trying make it seem like I have some sort of issue.
Read this thread, there are dozens of comments about the new Shelby being behind a grind wall, I was nearly expanding on that conversation....and having a decent convo about the issue, until you and penguin and ford decided you needed to get upset because I’ve stated I don’t like grinding, and stated why I think it shouldn’t be in the game.
The name calling in the other thread is because three of you have ganged up on me in this thread and accused me of harassing someone, something I don’t exactly take lightly. And while doing so, you’ve provided no logical, well thought out response to my points, just “shut up, go away, youre talking bad things about my favourite game.” And this is exactly how penguin behaves in the motorsport forum, he responds to people without notifying them he has responded to them, and his response is typically “your views don’t conform with the status quo, stop talking and go away”.
Now, thanks to the accusations of harassment and your pathetic support of them, we have got way off topic and derailed the thread.
They’re only rants if you read them like rants.
On the Internet, conflict is perceived the the receiver. You guys are the ones who have some sort of issue, and you’re projecting your issues onto my posts, trying make it seem like I have some sort of issue.
Read this thread, there are dozens of comments about the new Shelby being behind a grind wall, I was nearly expanding on that conversation....and having a decent convo about the issue, until you and penguin and ford decided you needed to get upset because I’ve stated I don’t like grinding, and stated why I think it shouldn’t be in the game.
The name calling in the other thread is because three of you have ganged up on me in this thread and accused me of harassing someone, something I don’t exactly take lightly.
And while doing so, you’ve provided no logical, well thought out response to my points, just “shut up, go away, youre talking bad things about my favourite game.”
As you say the problem is yours.We do have a big problem, Its you.
I'd rather they didn't. It's nice to have something that you can't just simply buy with cash.15 million car again. Even if I have the money, I'm not gonna spend it for just one car. PD should add them on microtransaction
So you supported a post which told me to allow others to enjoy the game the way they want, but your issue is with me personally for having a desire to enjoy the game in a way which differs from the status quo. And you’ve told me I need to grow up.We do have a big problem, It is you.
My issue is that I don’t like grinding in GT games, and would like to see an alternative solution or game structure implemented in the future.But it's sooooo clear you have an issue.
I haven't said anything about your disliking to grinding.
Reciprocating is not the solution.
Again haven't said anything like that, I've yet to say a word about grinding beyond "[Citation Needed]". GTS is far from my favorite game by the way.
I'd rather they didn't. It's nice to have something that you can't just simply buy with cash.
Plus you can flex on all the people who don't have them in online lobbies.
My issue is that I don’t like grinding in GT games, and would like to see an alternative solution or game structure implemented in the future.
That’s my issue.