Driveclub tech demo can do a good job with 60FPS VR in a certain race situation, don't see why say something like a Hi-Fi mode, single car single track with a game engine designed to operate at high frame rates won't be able to achieve 120FPS. Will be more surprised if they actually don't manage to achieve such a high frame rate given their philosophy. Quite incredible the performance they managed for GT5 3D on the PS3 for example.
What you didn't mention was turning the game into a one-trick pony in order to achieve that.
DC had to dial back the trackside details and weather along with disabling the rear view mirrors and while having only 8 cars on track and that was just to get to 60 fps. Anything is possible if you are willing to throw away visuals, car count and polys on the cars, but why would they even think about 120 fps when they can shoot for 60fps and have Morpheus do the rest? Unless you want GT7 to look like GT2, I'd say 120fps native is out of the question. A locked 60fps would be a godsend for this franchise, on VR and just with a regular monitor. To me it's a complete waste of resources chasing a 120fps nirvana when only a tiny fraction of users will ever notice or care.
Hi-Fi mode in GT1 is just like that.
Would expect GT7 to look substantially better than GT6 even if they aimed for 240FPS let alone GT2. 120FPS seems a reasonable target, they used to do 240FPS demos back in 2008 with a lot less power than 1 PS4. Will be good also if they manage 4K 60FPS too.
Reality.
I wouldn't be even surprised if they did a 8K 60FPS demo with multiple consoles.
They seem to do a lot of work to have much higher frame rates than similar kind of games on the same platform, graphical quality suffers if anything but credit to them that they can keep high graphics standards too while keeping up incredible performance.
That's just the thing though, you think they're just choosing a lower framerate/resolution because they can, it seems like. The FPS for any given game is the max they can achieve given the circumstances. If they opt for any higher they would have to seriously cut back on what makes the game worthwhile. They are choosing the most FPS/resolution they can, while still being able to give a quality game. Going any higher will just turn it into a shell of itself. Don't you think, say Driveclub for example, would have aimed higher, if they where even able to?
Whatever you are smoking, can I get some?
4x the framerate of DC at 1080p on a single PS4 is fantasy as is 4k 60fps with any level of visuals that most people would consider playable on the PS4. It's just not that powerful. I'd also argue again, it's a waste of resources to even go after that target as the market it would appeal to is very small. 4k market penetration is very small, predicted to be only 10% by next year. Seeing as how very few tv's or monitors can even display more than 60fps, putting resources into 120fps output so a tiny% of people can play with a VR headset is also a waste IMO.
They managed to get Driveclub run at higher frame rate as shown by their tech demo. In PC gaming, there are enough options to make either the game run super smooth or run like a slideshow with the same hardware for example.
Just the point of aiming higher.Good for you. Not sure how that is a response to anything I said, though.
Where do they have "much higher framerates" exactly? We all know neither GT5 nor GT6 are a solid 60fps, because they made other sacrifices. Did PD outdo other similar games on resolution? Yes. Frame rate? Nope. If you're talking about the 4K demo again, it wasn't genuine 240fps. It was interpolated in a way similar to what PSVR will do.
You said this nearly a year ago, yet still this hasn't been 'enabled' and no PS4 games are output in 4K. Why do you think this is?
I don't smoke.Whatever you are smoking, can I get some?
Yes, at the cost of cutting the game back a good deal. So like everything that has been said to you, these instances can probably(more realistic, not the 90-120fps you seem to be pulling out of nowhere) happen, but at the cost of sacrificing things. It's just not worth dumbing down the game just to be able to run something like that just to satisfy a small group of people that have the money to fork out for the equipment that would actually be able to show what they would have "achieved." It's something that the vast majority of people will not notice, or even be able to notice with the equipment available to them.
While I enjoyed the smoke effects as well, it just seemed massively over the top and exaggerated. Except that they weren't hitting high frame rates, at all. They where hitting(It's not really the right term, as there where just as many misses) the markets standard for high end games like this, which is pretty damn alright with me, as it'll give them room to allow so much more for the user in the end.
GT5 stereo 3D hit 50FPS on Nurburgring. That is like potentially 100FPS.What? Are you talking about GT6? You keep talking about 'potential' high framerates, with no evidence of anything you're claiming. Where is there any evidence GT on PS3 could output at 120fps with a single unit?
Using 4 PS3s to each output an upscaled 1080p 60fps image and joining them together in projection is not the same thing as using one piece of hardware to output a single image at that size and resolution. It's completely different, and doesn't put any more stress upon the hardware than the normal output did.
Show me where PD ever have one machine outputting one image at anything above 1080p 60fps.
Yeah sure, that's it. Sony are trying to sell and promote their 4K TVs and are pushing with their software to play 4K movies to help sell them but, even though it's as easy as just "enabling it", they've just not got around to enabling 4K on their biggest piece of hardware that would guarantee to shift 4K TVs.
Sure thing.
There it is again, you're just making things up with your 'potential'. "PS3 could hit 120fps, PS4 could easily do 4K 60fps, DC could do 90fps. Prove any of it.
Single car on track like the old GT1 Hi-Fi mode would be a good experience I think. No need to dumb down rest of the game.
That would be interesting I suppose, but what's the point? You're essentially taking away time and resources to have a 1 vehicle stint? The time spent on that could be much better used in any other area of the game.
Ok, except that you brought up the PC reference, being able to do that on the whim. The way you brought it up is that you'd not have to change the game, but just tweak the PC. I already know you can achieve greater visuals by retarding the game, but that's not what you were leading to with that.
I can't think of any game with good smoke effects and "such good performance" if we're going off games like this with demanding visuals.
