GT4 music tracks SUCK !!!

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EvilToast
yet you say you are not forcing him to post and thats his own decision if so why do you keep posting? is that your own decision as well to pick on someone because you think you are superior? and dont say you dont think you are, you insult them and then try to impose your ways upon them. what do you do? where do you work? i'm sure its not happy job if you need to resort to this.


Well if you insist to know...
I keep posting because i find it amusing. This whole debate is entertaining because im the one who started it.

If i was the kind of person to bash and pick on people (like you said) then you should see me doing it in other threads but you dont see me doing it do you ?

Im defending my arguments and that doesn't make one superior.

Thinking that i was superior didn't even cross my mind. Youre the one that keep bringing up that strange idea. People argue because they beleive in something, not because they think they are superior.

Actually im very happy at work. Why do you ask ? are you looking for a job too ?
 
pod
Well if you insist to know...
I keep posting because i find it amusing. This whole debate is entertaining because im the one who started it.

If i was the kind of person to bash and pick on people (like you said) then you should see me doing it in other threads but you dont see me doing it do you ?

Im defending my arguments and that doesn't make one superior.

Thinking that i was superior didn't even cross my mind. Youre the one that keep bringing up that strange idea. People argue because they beleive in something, not because they think they are superior.

Actually im very happy at work. Where i work ? why are you asking ? are you looking for a job too ?
lol but you seem to think that their music is crap sure its your opinion but you dont have to suggest that a company should have to change ithe most succesful racing game of all time because you dont like the music. and then tell the thousands of people that like that music they are hairy Metal heads, because you dont like their music, its your opinion, but thats just bigotry and i hate bigots who cannot accept others differences, and that mind set makes you think you are superior to them . you should read some sigmund freud maybe you'll see the futility of you argument and you points.
 
EvilToast
lol but you seem to think that their music is crap sure its your opinion but you dont have to suggest that a company should have to change ithe most succesful racing game of all time because you dont like the music. and then tell the thousands of people that like that music they are hairy Metal heads, because you dont like their music, its your opinion, but thats just bigotry and i hate bigots who cannot accept others differences, and that mind set makes you think you are superior to them . you should read some sigmund freud maybe you'll see the futility of you argument and you points.

Change the most successful franchise ? Are they not doing that right now ?

They will change the game just like everytime they make a sequel, wheter you like it or not.

The game is successful but not because of the music btw. You can read all the game reviews if that can help.

Actually GT3 was the one that was successful not GT4. Almost every GT3 owner (people like me) upgraded... thats why they made good sales.
Some were disapointed by GT4 other liked it. So what your point ?

Actually sigmund freud said your ego is within you child evolution.
If you have read Freud, you should know that. :)

You said you hate people who cannot accept others differences ?
Then why don't you accept the fact that i hate your music ?
Can you accept the fact that there are different people out there asking for more different music style ? Like i said, i don't see how adding more music style to GT would affect your playlist.

btw, you didn't answer my question... are you looking for job ?
 
pod
We ? lol

Come on, youre bettter than this deimos.

Use "i" not "we" in the futur

Because "we" is usually reserved for corporates and collectives, so you should use "i" ... want me to call you Borg now ?

When a person start using "we" (again typically men) it means he needs the gang to back him up. You don't need a gang to back you up don't you ? you,re grown up are you not?

Keep in mind that you took my opinion personnal and reacted by posting. Now you need to learn to assume full responsability.

You knew you only had to ignore the thread like 99.8% of community wheter they agree or not. But you choose to repply, didn't you ? so assume your responsibility.

You didn't answer my question by the way. Can you take personnal criticisms ?

Something is telling me youre very allergic to that...

No pod. I meant WE. There is not a single person in this thread, and it's unlikely that there's a user on this forum who can help you. I'm sure PD would be far more impressed and likely to see your point and help you with it if they didn't see you trolling on all the people in this forum. And to be honest, I believe you've probably said and done enough to get banned, particularly that thing about creating the account solely for this purpose. I, a mere user am sadly short of powers to effect this, but you will attract attention soon, that's for sure.

No, I'm not grown up, because I was the one who said he was 15.
 
deimos
No pod. I meant WE. There is not a single person in this thread, and it's unlikely that there's a user on this forum who can help you. I'm sure PD would be far more impressed and likely to see your point and help you with it if they didn't see you trolling on all the people in this forum. And to be honest, I believe you've probably said and done enough to get banned, particularly that thing about creating the account solely for this purpose. I, a mere user am sadly short of powers to effect this, but you will attract attention soon, that's for sure.

No, I'm not grown up, because I was the one who said he was 15.

People choose to stay out of it probably because they think they have no chance to argue with rockers... i didn't come on this board to make friends with rockers, i came here to talk about something specific to GT4... the music tracks. Youre the one who took it personnal and reacted by insulting me and the rest who disagree with you. I merely reacted to your attacks.

We already know you have every interest to protest against any change even if the change is meant to please a wider range of people.

Stop trying to turn this debate into personal attack issue. You know as much as i know you can't take any criticisms which blinds you from arguing.

If the mod is not biased nothing would be done unless you succesfully turn this debate into a war, which you have been trying since the begining because you can't take criticism objetively..
 
pod
People choose to stay out of it probably because they think they have no chance to argue with rockers... i didn't come on this board to make friends with rockers, i came here to talk about something specific to GT4... the music tracks. Youre the one who took it personnal and reacted by insulting me. I merely reacted to your attacks.

We already know you have every interest to protest against any change even if the change is meant to please a wider range of people.

Stop trying to turn this debate into personal attack issue. You know as much as i know you can't take any criticisms which blinds you from arguing.

Does this have anything whatsoever to do with there being any point posting here? I've tried to make the point. There is no help for you here. It's great that you want to talk about the game, and good that you want to try and help in GT5s development for the better. But you aren't going to get anywhere by upsetting people. And I have not attacked, nor intended to attack you in anyway, merely attempted to advise you, and warn you. Anyway, you seem like a very intelligent person, and I wish you would use that so we can have a good debate rather than using it to twist people's words, that's what upset me. Can we play nicely please?
 
deimos
Does this have anything whatsoever to do with there being any point posting here? I've tried to make the point. There is no help for you here. It's great that you want to talk about the game, and good that you want to try and help in GT5s development for the better. But you aren't going to get anywhere by upsetting people. And I have not attacked, nor intended to attack you in anyway, merely attempted to advise you, and warn you. Anyway, you seem like a very intelligent person, and I wish you would use that so we can have a good debate rather than using it to twist people's words, that's what upset me. Can we play nicely please?

Very well said deimos, im totally on ur side and on Toaties. I'm sorry POD im not gonna say that your a bad person or anything but ur just stating ur point and that is koo with me. You can have the right to say the GT4 music sucks when ur 100% done with the game or at least very close to. Remeber i believe in respect and in privleges but when ur 100% finished I believe you have every right to say whatever you want in GT4. Once again i am not gonna argue with you because this that is for little kids. Go do ur 24 hr nurburgring kid! 💡 💡

I got a better idea for you, if you dont like the music turn it off because you can't hear it. I turned mine off. I just love the sound of just the car engine itself that is my music.

Oh and that symphony music is off the hook.
 
Can anyone work out why pod hasn't been blocked yet? Or atleast been given a warning
 
So your entire argument isn't just that GT4 music tracks SUCK !!! (that's just the attention-grabbing headline), it's that GT4 needs way more tracks & genres on the music list so that you'll have a chance of finding something that satisfies YOUR unique musical tastes. Is this close?

pod
The game is successful but not because of the music btw.

Knowing this, how can a reasonable person expect Polyphony to dump more time and money into assembling & licensing an enormous tracklist that's still not going to please everybody? To PD, I suspect the music is just taking up disk space and memory and probably isn't worth the effort.

IMO, your argument is similar to the people who whine about no Porsche, Lamborghini, or Ferrari in the game. They're insulted & upset by a simple business decision: if Sony spends $40M (made up amount, obviously) on licensing those brands, will they bring in that much more money in sales? PD doesn't seem to think so...

The same logic works for you: if PD had taken the time to license an enormous tracklist (which may or may not include songs that make you smile, but will certainly eat up a bunch of disk space) would they get a decent return on their investment? All signs point to no. There would still be complaints, and your complaint carries no more weight than anybody else. So they've grabbed a handful of songs, given you the ability to pick & choose or turn them all off (that's my choice), and considered it done.

Their decision makes business sense, yours makes artistic sense. It shouldn't be a big surprise that business won.

And of course, all this assumes you've actually given this some thought and aren't just here to troll for insults & arguments.

Now some relevant personal info that you can dissect if you'd like: I had long metal hair, but that was 10+ years ago in highschool. I still play guitar, but my musical tastes have expanded as quickly as my music collection has. I'm also trained & working in a field way more jokeworthy than IT: electronic engineering. :)
 
OMG dude seriously how many times do i have to say it i dont care that you dont like their music! its your opinion, i have sai it like 4 times already, what i dont like is you insulting the listeners of the music themselves, ever hear the expression hate the game not the player? what if i started calling you a little fag who likes to get his asshair waxed and his eyebrows pulled because you listen to club music, no it wouldnt make sense because i know nothing about you as a person and i am assuming that because you listen to that kind of music, its the same thing you are doing to these people, you are intolerant and that angers me, we live in a world that should be beyond that but people like you make me think otherwise. SOME PLEASE BRING OUT THE BAN ALREADY.
 
pod
Problems:

1) must have music on
2) Cannot use Mp3 devices including PC
3) must travel light
4) can't listen to any of the selection in GT4
5) Must play GT4

Solution:

Actually there is none, except hopping GT5 wont be meant for old hairy rockers..

Wrong.

If you wanna travel light, try some portable speakers, like the Creative Travelsound ones and a cdplayer, and use a ps2 aswell. Problem solved
 
CrackHoor
Knowing this, how can a reasonable person expect Polyphony to dump more time and money into assembling & licensing an enormous tracklist that's still not going to please everybody? To PD, I suspect the music is just taking up disk space and memory and probably isn't worth the effort.

IMO, your argument is similar to the people who whine about no Porsche, Lamborghini, or Ferrari in the game. They're insulted & upset by a simple business decision: if Sony spends $40M (made up amount, obviously) on licensing those brands, will they bring in that much more money in sales? PD doesn't seem to think so...

The same logic works for you: if PD had taken the time to license an enormous tracklist (which may or may not include songs that make you smile, but will certainly eat up a bunch of disk space) would they get a decent return on their investment? All signs point to no. There would still be complaints, and your complaint carries no more weight than anybody else. So they've grabbed a handful of songs, given you the ability to pick & choose or turn them all off (that's my choice), and considered it done.

Their decision makes business sense, yours makes artistic sense. It shouldn't be a big surprise that business won.

Was about time someone bring up an argument closer to reality.

But have you read the very first post btw ?

I believe in the very first post i said something about the financial state PD have.

Now tell me this, adding more textures, more sounds, more models, more tracks, also cost a lot of time and money too.
Now tell me something, where exactly do you see the limit ? There are so many economical factors involved during and after the production. Where is the limit in GT4 production ? What if we (let say) remove about 10 constructors rights, 20 race tracks and few hundreds textures ?. the game would be smaller and more ugly. But how many people would complain ? more complains than now or less ?

According to your argument, PD reached that limit in GT4 to be viable. Are you very sure about it?

As you know, the PS3 and X360 are going to allow developers to produce much richer games. Do you believe they are actually going to add more contents in the PS3 version ?
According to you, GT5 wont have more content.. Just higher resolution and a better graphic motion. Lets wait and see about it.

Have you made any business decision before?
Tell me something, what business decision will you make if too many people complain about your product ? and if few people complain ? and if very little complain ?
Will your business decision be the same for all 3 cases? That would depend right ?

BTW, how many music tracks was there in GT 1,2 & 3. I don’t recall.

Do you actually know how much GT4 cost to produce ? How many copies have they sold ? how much profit have they made ? That’s more the kind of stuff i would like to hear before i dissect your arguments.

More question, let suppose your company sell something. That thing cost 100 bucks to produce and it features A, B,C,D,E services.

Each bonus features cost you money.

By removing feature E you notice that you’re still viable, no chance in the profit.
You try to cut feature D. You notice slight increase in complains but still no chance to the profit. Are you going to keep reducing the features until you notice the sale drecrease or until too many people complain?

This question is my favourite: Will you expect people to complain about your product if you cut feature C ?

CrackHoor
And of course, all this assumes you've actually given this some thought and aren't just here to troll for insults & arguments.

I can’t type much as im at work, but just answer me these for now.
 
EvilToast
OMG dude seriously how many times do i have to say it i dont care that you dont like their music! its your opinion, i have sai it like 4 times already, what i dont like is you insulting the listeners of the music themselves, ever hear the expression hate the game not the player? what if i started calling you a little fag who likes to get his asshair waxed and his eyebrows pulled because you listen to club music, no it wouldnt make sense because i know nothing about you as a person and i am assuming that because you listen to that kind of music, its the same thing you are doing to these people, you are intolerant and that angers me, we live in a world that should be beyond that but people like you make me think otherwise. SOME PLEASE BRING OUT THE BAN ALREADY.


You,
You haven’t brought any argument to defend your point so far.

So i can’t ask you something to difficult.

Because I also told you more than 5 times what this issue was about I feel like Im wasting my time trying.

So ill make it simple:

Will adding more music tracks into GT5 annoys you ?
If yes, then tell everyone on this forum what disturb you about adding more sound tracks.

btw, i already said like 4 times i dont listen to dance.... and i like women.
 
pod
You,
You haven’t brought any argument to defend your point so far.

So i can’t ask you something to difficult.

Because I also told you more than 5 times what this issue was about I feel like Im wasting my time trying.

So ill make it simple:

Will adding more music tracks into GT5 annoys you ?
If yes, then tell everyone on this forum what disturb you about adding more sound tracks.

btw, i already said like 4 times i dont listen to dance.... and i like women.
oh wait now you change the subject? we'rent you just calling people name because of what they listen to and now you change into a thread about economics.... you dont seem to get my point let me put it ina format you might understand. YOU IN YOUR COMPLETE INCONPETENCE HAVE INSULTED A GROUP OF PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE MUSIC THEY LISTEN TO. did you get that or do i need to repeat it. lol and why the long pause to say you like women did you have to think about it? will someone please just ban this idiot its obvious he is here to anger people and has angered some. oh dont say you're not here to do that because you clearly stated that you are if you read your other posts. lol your question haha if i read your other posts what i get from them is.
1. you came here to start an argument.
2.you resulted to insulting people just because they like different music.
3. now you decide your whole point was so moronic that you try and change the subject and say it was the actual questions.
lol why would i care if they added more tracks to GT5 it doesnt bother me, but your insults of other people do, that is why i have even bothered to reply in this post. lol and ontop of that you attack the whole male gender if quote you correct."resort to yelling (usually men)." no one has resorted to yelling if they were yelling as you say they wold use caplocks since its the logical thing to do.
 
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