GT4 WRS Week 12: "Team GTP BC5 Qualifier Race & WRS Team Event Pt.2"

[VEXD]

hey holl01~

update~ on the fastest lap
1'45.063
1'48.006 ( opening lap ) ( montoya cold tire skills )

didnt finish the race tho

Montoya would be proud.

I meanwhile, am slightly disturbed that you are achieving such times on this track.

Where's Holl to show you up?

And seeing as its "change your avatar month" why havent you changed yours?

Anyway.

Thats enuff moaning.

Well done hot, those times are impressive. 👍

I will have to actually do some driving on this course, i spose.

Ive seen 1'47's and ive managed to finish one race cleanly, but thats about all the work ive done, maybe i just dont have it in me anymore, i seem to want to play GTA more often.... thats got to be sacriligious.

Well, i must make an effort, if not for mine, but for ROB23's sake.

Im on it Rob!

👍

 

[Teledriel]

AI: -7
Gear: 310
TSC Enabled
Tires : RM's ~ Front and Back
No change to tires with Pit. Pitted End of Lap 6

Best Time : 1' 55.462

 

[somebody]

AI set to +7 with mediums

Top-speed 290
Tyres rm/rs
Pit lap 5

Only had to pass 2 cars (easily)

How the hell are you doing this?
No matter what tyres I put on the AI, if I set the difficulty to -5 or higher I have to battle the entire field in to turn 1. Even at +10 I'm overtaking three cars before the first turn.

 

[EXelero]

@ kolyana

i know who brad horton is!!!!!!!

laugh with me brad!

 

[Casio]

@ kolyana

i know who brad horton is!!!!!!!

laugh with me brad!

I know him too!

Hahaha, what a laugh we have!

ho ho ho...

 

[Androoos]

This is my last O.T. post on this subject but I thought it was interesting.

I read in last week's AutoWeek that the organizers of the Champ Car Cleveland Grand Prix were honoring USGP tickets for the race at Burke Lakefront Airport this past weekend. 👍 👍 👍

And for ovals, there is skill involved for sure, but it's placed in different areas than with road racing. Don't get me wrong, I am still a road racer at heart, but as a racer, a fan, and an engineer, I respect the subtleties and nuances of setting up a car to drive fast around an oval without being out of control. And, sadly, for pure spectator value, oval racing can't be beat. You can see the entire race unfold before you, rather than just 10% of it on a road course.

With oval racing, you can't just crank up the downforce to make the car driveable, whereas with road racing (especially F1 and Champ Car) the name of the game is finding the most downforce. Look at all the funky little appendages that the F1 teams add to the cars each race to get a few more ounces of downforce. They'll continue to do this at each race, save for Monza. I think that's the last fast track they run on after they screwed up Hockenheim.

BTW ran 1:45.462 last night but didn't finish the race.

 

[ZeratulSG]

@Androos: Dunno, Indy and Spa are pretty fast tracks too, F1 teams tend to run significantly less downforce at these tracks. I would agree that oval racing makes a better spectator sport (on location), but damn it must be boring for the drivers!

 

[Rob23]

Montoya would be proud.

I meanwhile, am slightly disturbed that you are achieving such times on this track.

Where's Holl to show you up?

And seeing as its "change your avatar month" why havent you changed yours?

Anyway.

Thats enuff moaning.

Well done hot, those times are impressive. 👍

I will have to actually do some driving on this course, i spose.

Ive seen 1'47's and ive managed to finish one race cleanly, but thats about all the work ive done, maybe i just dont have it in me anymore, i seem to want to play GTA more often.... thats got to be sacriligious.

Well, i must make an effort, if not for mine, but for ROB23's sake.

Im on it Rob!

👍

Gotcha ,Buddy!👍
We,ve still got some left.

 

[Tyre King]

How the hell are you doing this?
No matter what tyres I put on the AI, if I set the difficulty to -5 or higher I have to battle the entire field in to turn 1. Even at +10 I'm overtaking three cars before the first turn.

Ehem, should have said passed the whole field before turn one, then lapped only two!

slight ammendment to settings, changing to rs/rs from rm/rs at pit-stop end of lap 6! Only have to baby the rears for last 1/3 of lap 6.

Average best laps around 1:48.6xx, managed four completed races all clean but not improved fastest for the Luxy's board

 

[Kolyana]

@ kolyana

i know who brad horton is!!!!!!!

laugh with me brad!

Oooh, you're going to tease me ... the secret name of Jack the Ripper? Brad Pitt's love child? The guy inside "Big Bird"?

 

[Androoos]

@Androos: Dunno, Indy and Spa are pretty fast tracks too, F1 teams tend to run significantly less downforce at these tracks. I would agree that oval racing makes a better spectator sport (on location), but damn it must be boring for the drivers!

I agree, Spa is fast, and so is Indy (apparently too fast, lol). They still run fairly high wing angles at those tracks because of the high downforce corners. Monza is pretty much straights and chicanes, with the only high-downforce high-speed corner being Parabolica. They run near-zero degree rear wing elements at Monza, and they used to at Hockenheim. From my experiences the rear wing elements at Spa are still fairly large due to the high-speed high downforce corners at the south end of the track.

 

[Randymcchickenf]

Finished my first clean,
I used medium front, soft rear fo r the whole race, pitting end of 5.

Best lap 1.49.116

Had pretty much consistent 1.49/50 👍

 

[Puck927]

Ran a clean race and beat my previous overall time by a couple of seconds, beat my old best lap by a full second. Getting better with practice.

Best Lap: 1:46.531 on RS tires

Still going first 6 on RM's, last 4 on RS's. AI at -6 and top speed of 290. TCS only. Got held up real bad at Dunlop curve by a damn AI car on my out lap from the pits, probably cost me a good 3-5 seconds on my final time, didn't run a good first lap either, so I'll definitely be trying again to improve. Oh and switched to the wheel this week too, not sure if its helping or hurting me!

 

[kennythebomb]

So far I've just been racing this Z in time trial mode, getting the combo down as good as I can. It's starting to click for me.

I just did a 1'48.906 on RM/RH tires. I'm using hard tires here so that if I try softer ones in the race I won't go wide

Who has the best time for my tire combo?

 

[smaug terrible]

How many of you are pitting twice ??

If I pit twice my fastest lap improves by a second but my overall time goes down by 20 seconds!! Considering that points are on offer for the fastest lap as well as overall time do you guys think its a good option ?

Keep in mind I am a div 3 driver. Are any one of you Div 3 drivers considering this ??

 

[Teledriel]

I am not. Remember WRS points still are as they always have been. Team score is just the "fun" event part of it. Not sure where you think you will place in Div 3, but overall, 20 secs will drop you alot on the results for the regular WRS scoring.

 

[holl01]

i should have my first go tomorrow morning, in about 15 hours, hopefully i can beat hotboi this week, and get some revenge from last weeks cloooose loss, c ya soon

 

[ZeratulSG]

"Woof woof," says the car.

This car is a dog. The great Z terminal understeer lives on in this beast, with the added fun of some high-speed twitchiness. I don't like this car

Anyway, after round 1 of the JGTC took up my weekend I managed to put in some runs last night. Best lap was a 1'50.232 though the race was an abortion thanks to one of the AI cars running me off the track.

I'll have another go tonight, but I need to clarify something quickly: pit entrance. There are two, the main pit lane entry seems to occur before the Casino Triangle (I think), yet there's another entry accessible from the track just after this. Does it matter which one we take?

 

[VEXD]

I think, due to having to do some kind of three point turn to get into the pits any other way, that you should just enter via the entry that lets you go straight in without an angle, the "last chance" entry, if you like.

This, i believe, would be the best option, and, seeing as no-one else is worried about getting this wrong, or being penalised for it, lets just go for that Zera.

Ive seen a 1'46.504 whilst i was using softs, and i can see where hotboi got his time from, as i made loads of mistakes on that lap, but i havent decided on a strategy yet.

Still trying different things, including mediums, and softs at either end of a pit in, but i havent tried using both tyre types on the car at once yet.
hmmmmm....


right....

Back to the drawing board..... and Koly..... the guy in big bird was also in star wars, he played R2D2, only he has stilts on when he's yellow.

tata for now....
👍

 

[Tedehur]

I've just noticed that I have another week to practise.
I raced for an hour yesterday, but couldn't run a clean entire race, and I was disappointed not to have anything to submit.
I'm still starting on rear hard / front medium, pitting after 6 laps, and finishing on rear medium / front soft.
Best lap so far (hard/medium) : 1'52.080, and a best first lap at 1'55.7xx

 

[Tyre King]

I've just noticed that I have another week to practise.
I raced for an hour yesterday, but couldn't run a clean entire race, and I was disappointed not to have anything to submit.
I'm still starting on rear hard / front medium, pitting after 6 laps, and finishing on rear medium / front soft.
Best lap so far (hard/medium) : 1'52.080, and a best first lap at 1'55.7xx

Mate, try medium fronts and soft rears! (the fronts suffer worse than the backs) They hold together for 5 laps easy! I have been experimenting with making them last for 6, and then swapping to soft fronts and burning them in the final 4 laps, much better fastest lap,but overall times seem to suffer a little so i'm gonna try soft/soft for 5 laps and see what i can do with them.

Neil

 

[Tedehur]

Mate, try medium fronts and soft rears! (the fronts suffer worse than the backs) They hold together for 5 laps easy! I have been experimenting with making them last for 6, and then swapping to soft fronts and burning them in the final 4 laps, much better fastest lap,but overall times seem to suffer a little so i'm gonna try soft/soft for 5 laps and see what i can do with them.

Neil

I started a dozen races and I was pretty sure that the rear always suffer more than the front, which is the main reason why I switched to a softer compound on front wheels, so that all tires have an even wear when pitting.
I'll check this out tonight, I can be wrong.

 

[ZeratulSG]

Okay I haven't tried with a harder compound on the front but the problem with this approach is that it changes the balance of the car, in this case providing more grip in the rear. Not a problem with a well-balanced car, but the Z suffers from terminal understeer already, running a harder front compound will likely increase this tendancy.

Interestingly running mediums all-round I did not notice unbalanced tire wear between front and rear with this car. My tires seem to wear fairly evenly. Driving style perhaps? I do tend to slow more into the turns to counter the understeer, perhaps I'm just not scrubbing the fronts as much as others

Oh well, I'll give this another bash tonight. Putting together a clean 10 laps is a lot harder than I thought it would be. Maybe if we weren't racing in a container ship...

 

[Rob23]

How many of you are pitting twice ??

If I pit twice my fastest lap improves by a second but my overall time goes down by 20 seconds!! Considering that points are on offer for the fastest lap as well as overall time do you guys think its a good option ?

Keep in mind I am a div 3 driver. Are any one of you Div 3 drivers considering this ??

I did think that,smaug...I tried to do it that way, but I cant get my overall time down far enough to suit me.

I think you actually get more points for overall time,but yes I thought about the fastest lap time as well.

I just thought about how that would work,beings I personally probably cant even come close to Div 1,or Div2 individual laptimes,i would end up near the end of the fastest lap pile,so I decided it would probably be worht more points for me/ my team if I stuck to the overall race total.That would also mess my timing up that I have right now with the AI.They are not an issue after I pit,until the end,then its only usually one or two,and I catch them on the longest straight,so they dont hold me up.If I were to pit again,that would most likely change.

I start using the softs,so my fastest laptime would definatley be before I pit for new rubber...I was using Meds,which I had to pit anyway,so that gave me at least a better shot at a faster laptime.

With pitting twice,you are just geting an extra shot at getting a faster laptime,but like I said,personally,i cant get my overall time down far enough to be happy,so I stuck with pitting once.

If you can get a fast lap time that can compete with the others,then I would say go for it,but Im just talking about it from my perspective of things.

Hope this provides a differnt point of view for you.👍

 

[jumpputt]

How many of you are pitting twice ??

If I pit twice my fastest lap improves by a second but my overall time goes down by 20 seconds!! Considering that points are on offer for the fastest lap as well as overall time do you guys think its a good option ?

Keep in mind I am a div 3 driver. Are any one of you Div 3 drivers considering this ??

You should also keep in mind the fact that the single fastest lap time is only relative to the "just for fun" team competetion.

 

[VEXD]

You should also keep in mind the fact that the single fastest lap time is only relative to the "just for fun" team competetion.

Yeah, like he said, oh and also keep in mind that the fastest lap will be done by hotboi, or Holl.

Simple.

Rob, check your messages team matey! im off to send you one.

👍

 

[smaug terrible]

Yup, you guys are right. I will go with one pit stop. It makes more sense especially considering that the teammate part is only for fun.

BTW, did anyone overtake Driven USA' 1'48.981 in Div 3.

 

[EXelero]

How many of you are pitting twice ??

If I pit twice my fastest lap improves by a second but my overall time goes down by 20 seconds!! Considering that points are on offer for the fastest lap as well as overall time do you guys think its a good option ?

Keep in mind I am a div 3 driver. Are any one of you Div 3 drivers considering this ??

i think you should go ahead and pit twice smaug......

i for one NEED the twenty second advantage!!!!

 

[amp88]

Been a bit busy this week, on and off the board a bit. Not really done many clean runs and the ones that are clean are pretty slow. I did a fairly decent run today only to be spoilt once again by the AI. I've settled on a medium tyre, one stop strategy. My fastest lap's a 1'50.984 (done on the last lap)

 

[DRIVEN -USA-]

HEH - yea i did Something around 1'48.4xx best 1st lap 1'51.xx t1 -50.6xx mediums front and rear - 5 lap runs

Need to look it up this evening to get my new time, was running the enduro last night for fun and practice

Will be running this again tonight, so new times prob. will be coming (i hope ) will do a little testing too, need to figure out how the softer tires will wear.