GT4 WRS Week 7: "Skyline Fanboyz"

[Tyre King]

Question answered, thanx guys!

Thought that was the way to go, but wanted to be sure.

Hey Small, which car have you got to exactly 500? Not gonna change coz i like the colour of the one i'm using (and it is only 1 bhp under) just curious!

Neil

 

[DRIVEN -USA-]

HP ratings - prob. want to think about what you will see in the replay (at the start) s2/s2 hp500 or less etc. i don't think it will show up anywhere else in the replays of what you are actually using (will have to look closely though)

heh - have been playing with skylines for a while - should be fast this week too

hope its the medium length track - not the short one that's almost like an oval

 

[Z]

Well, I can't get much closer to 500hp with the car I've chosen right now, but I like it best so far out of the cars available with low power:weight ratios -- I'm at 486, but I won't complain too much just yet as there are many cars left to be tested.

FYI: I'm in an '02 V-spec II Nur

T1: 31.298
T2: 59.423

 

[ssAres]

lol, i wont be the fastest, but im having alot of fun


Skyline R31 GTS-R

i've done a couple fun laps, T2 at 1'04.***

 

[Canoe]

Well, I can't get much closer to 500hp with the car I've chosen right now, but I like it best so far out of the cars available with low power:weight ratios -- I'm at 486, but I won't complain too much just yet as there are many cars left to be tested.

FYI: I'm in an '02 V-spec II Nur

T1: 31.298
T2: 59.423

After the break-in and an oil change the hp should rise. I don't know how much, but it will go up. I think you're on the right track at 486hp.

 

[ssAres]

*Questions*

can the N1 cars be used?
R32 N1
R33 N1
R34 N1

 

[KLR142]

Nice one CFM. I've always been a fan of the Skylines. I feel an old R32 coming on!!

Mmmm yes...! Fun stuff. Will the R32's be up to it?

How about the 72(or is it 73 model?) I had a LOT of fun with that car in GT2, loved it, I wonder if it'd be competitive here, probably not...

 

[Steve57]

Why can't there be one value across the board? Rather stupid if you ask me. You get yet another value when you watch the replay I assume.

Thats exactly right CFM .
in garage and under settings shows - 503 Bhp
in the enlarged engine performance box - 496 Bhp
and on the start of the saved replay - 472 Bhp

Seems a little to me.

Steve

 

[Z]

After the break-in and an oil change the hp should rise. I don't know how much, but it will go up. I think you're on the right track at 486hp.

Is there a break-in along with the power you get from an oil change, or are they one in the same?

I just bought a new '02 V-spec II Nur from another savegave I have and the dyno chart read 337hp. After an immediate oil change, the power jumped to 354. After putting 80 miles or so on this car, I've seen no further increase so this issue confuses me. I'd love it if it decided to jump up a little bit closer to the 500 mark, but I have seen no evidence of this happening just yet.

Can someone clarify?

 

[hOt6o4bOi]

ur not gonna get 150hp boost from a oil change...
ur gonna have to upgrade some other things too....

 

[Barbol]

The HP limit races was more easy in GT3, PD in this 👎

 

[somebody]

Is there a break-in along with the power you get from an oil change, or are they one in the same?

I just bought... ...just yet.

Can someone clarify?

There's been a couple of threads about this at GTP and other places and it appears that the run-in period has been removed for GT4. Once you do the oil change you have max HP.

BTW the HP figure shown at the start of replays appears to be the lowest HP figure the car will drop to if it is run until the oil is out.

 

[Tyre King]

Here are the splits from my first run

T1 32.707
T2 1,01.469

No-where near to being quick, but a start

👍

 

[Z]

ur not gonna get 150hp boost from a oil change...
ur gonna have to upgrade some other things too....

I'm aware of that. I was illustrating that an oil change gave an immediate increase, and further inquired if driving the car to a certain mileage point would increase the power more. I'm at 486 after upgrading parts -- I just gave figures before adding anything for example. I cannot upgrade this particular can any more because the next bump up in power would set me at 600, which is well over the limit.

Edit:

T1: 31.003
T2: 58.938

@somebody: thanks. that's what I needed to know. 👍

 

[Canoe]

I'm aware of that. I was illustrating that an oil change gave an immediate increase, and further inquired if driving the car to a certain mileage point would increase the power more. I'm at 486 after upgrading parts -- I just gave figures before adding anything for example. I cannot upgrade this particular can any more because the next bump up in power would set me at 600, which is well over the limit.

The oil change only returns the engine to it's optimal hp.

The break-in period increases the optimum hp. I am using GT3 experience as reference here, but the break-in usually was usually the first 120 miles, or thereabouts and gave the car roughly a 3% increase in horsepower. At 486hp an additional 3% will give you 500hp. I don't know if this is true in GT4 as I haven't had a chance to test any of this.

Has anyone else done this?

Also, you could avoid the break-in by buying a used car, or simply not saving your game starting with your setup at the beginning of each session.

 

[KLR142]

I cannot upgrade this particular can any more because the next bump up in power would set me at 600, which is well over the limit.

You can put in the next stage turbo or something if you'd like, and then detune using your other parts, for example, I think you're probably using a stage one turbo? Put in a stage two,(might not work for your application, or it might be smarter to not do this even though the max hp would be higher) and take off your mufflers and computer chip and intercooler, or leave out some of the other engine mods, such as port/polish, engine balancing, etc.

After a half an hour, which is all I'm going to do for now, I don't want to get burnt out like I did on the 'Ring, using a '91 N1;
T1 31.853
T2 1'01.311

 

[KLR142]

Oh, and as far as I've experienced, there is no break in period in GT4 like there was for GT3.

 

[TheWizard]

The number that appears on the tuning screen when the graph is reverted to normal size may be higher than 500, but the number when you enlarge the graph must be 500 or less.

Why can't there be one value across the board? Rather stupid if you ask me. You get yet another value when you watch the replay I assume.

CFM, if you check my signature, there is a Guide I made not too long ago about these issues with power.
The amount of power shown on the smaller version of the graph is always in PS, no matter what your choice of units for power is, in the Options menu. On the other hand, the bigger version of the graph reflects the units the user chooses.

Finally, the power shown on the Replay screen is the power the vehicle would have once permanent engine damage has occured (which happens at 8500 miles, according to my testings).

There you go, that summarizes it
If you want the full coverage, go check out my guide.

By the way, interesting combo 👍
I will give it a try pronto - after I figure out which of the 8million Skyline's I am going to buy

EDIT:

Oh, and as far as I've experienced, there is no break in period in GT4 like there was for GT3.

I can second this. In my testings performed in order to write the aforementioned Guide, I discovered that no power increase happens, once the vehicle is purchased and an oil change is performed. The power only goes downhill, from there. And no need to worry anymore, it doesn't happen within the first ~200 miles like it used to, in GT3. The car needs to run at least ~1000 miles, before the power starts to drop (due to permanent engine damage). Can't remember when the oil becomes dirty, but that's no biggie either, just change it regularly 👍

The Wizard.

 

[nicholp]

Few laps tonight, using a V-spec II N1 R34 '00 at 496HP

T1 : 31.718
T2 : 1'00.347

Haven't driven a modern Skyline in GT4 yet and it's very nice to drive - nice engine note too.

Paul

 

[the real 6c]

hey, those 50 skylines everyone has been saying "why do we need all those?" about....finally serve a purpose!!! Apparently PD wanted to make week 7 more interesting for the WRS. WOW, how considerate of them. They are super nice guys.

 

[TheWizard]

Oh, and by the way, another tip:

When you purchase parts that modify the power of the vehicle, the power increase shown is also always in PS. Therefore, you can go a little higher than 500 (PS) while you are tuning the car, since it will be (a little) lower in HP...

The Wizard.

 

[TimBrad]

Just for buying & testing skylines, is there any way to turn off auto save whenever you jump into another car? I know i have it turned off in options, but the jumping cars thing wasn't in the JPN version when i played that, and i don't wanna jump back & forth from UK to JPN versions! lol Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere

 

[ROB 256R]

First decent splits using a '91 R32 GT-R N1 making 499hp according to the settings graph and 500hp according to the replay. Either way i guess it's ok:

T1 - 0'31.510
T2 - 0'59.831

 

[CrackHoor]

The amount of power shown on the smaller version of the graph is always in PS, no matter what your choice of units for power is, in the Options menu.

So if we all flipped our options to display power in PS, we'd have only two values: the replay value (showing the 8500+ mile power) and the actual PS value everywhere else. Is that correct? If so, is a PS limit something that might be considered for simplicity's sake?

 

[hOt6o4bOi]

^ ^ ^
good point

 

[the real 6c]

i finally matched the best i got when testing cars.....only took me another 15-20 laps.
31.880
1.00.901

WOOHOO!! MY THING CHAGED FROM "JUNIOR MEMBER" TO ACTIVE MEMBER

 

[MR8]

What the hell, my NTSC/Chn version doesn't have the option of switching from PS to HP, AND, the replays don't have the display for
Car make/model/HP/tires/etc.

I love GT-R's, but what a bunch of pigs they are around Motegi. First I tried a R34 M-Spec Nur '02, it would barely turn. Then a R34 V-Spec II N1, nope. Now I'm in a R33 N1, making 507ps, which according to my converter, equals to 500.05hp. Am I still legal to run with those extra 0.05hp?

Slow, slow, slow T times for me after 5/10 clean laps. I dislike tuning.

T1: 32.722
T2: 1'01.828

 

[Iceman]

I think that would be considered over the limit. 500.000000001 is still more than 500 which is the limit.

 

[KLR142]

First decent splits using a '91 R32 GT-R N1 making 499hp according to the settings graph and 500hp according to the replay. Either way i guess it's ok:

T1 - 0'31.510
T2 - 0'59.831

Weird... The replay shows the lowest HP rating as far as I know... Have you done an oil change yet? Maybe you're planning on not doing so... Who knows...

FWIW, I chopped off 2 seconds of my lap time by going from the 91 N1 to the 99 N1... But the T times are about the same, although, I think it's mainly because of the driving. Who knows, time will tell...

 

[Sjaak]

GT-RV-specII(R34)'00

493 Bhp- 500ps

T1-32.020

T2-1'00.971

Think I'm gonna test Rob's choice.
Those extra 7 hp must get me under the minute.