GT4 WRS Week 75 : "Hong-Kong King"

[Tedehur]

No special tribute race as requested. On the one hand "Hamster" is recovering pretty soon (cross fingers), on the other hand he's a fan of muscle cars, and I have a muscle car race ready. So a little change in my planning is enough.
Stay away from the walls, don't be too hard on the gas pedal or you'll lay down rubber all across Hong-Kong and enjoy this race 👍

Week 75 : a classic american muscle car @ Hong Kong reverse




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Game mode :
Arcade Mode / Time Trial / City Courses / Hong Kong reverse

Car specifications :
any US road car made between 1960 and 1975 with the following restrictions :

• -10% weight compulsory ;
• p/w ratio at 4.000 or greater (power has to be adjusted to match this requirement) ;
• any driving aids ;
• any normal tyres ;

Race rules :
Standard clean OLR rules :

• 2 wheels on track at all time ;
• any tarmac, concrete or cobblestone area is part of the track.
• no contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible ;
• if you're not 100% sure that your lap is clean, then consider it dirty ;
• no hybrids ;
• no cheating of any kind ;
• nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules ;
• save your replays ('save ghost' icon).

Thread rules :
The following info cannot be discussed in the thread (they can however be discussed on chats or by other means) :

• lap time ;
• any information which can be used to infer lap time.

Submission :
All submissions must be sent to me by PM (flat-out).

• you can submit only once per race ;
• please include in your submission PM your division, name and time ;
• deadline is tuesday 3rd october 9pm GMT (L.A. 1pm, New-York 4pm, London 10pm, Paris 11pm, Tokyo wed. 6am, Sydney wed. 8am).

Time verification :
Save your replay and keep it at least a full week after the time has been submitted.

• fastest times each week will be required to submit with verification ;
• any submitted time is subject to a time verification request ;
• when a time verification has been required, the concerned racer must provide a replay before next race deadline ;
• failure to do so will result in the submitted time to be removed for the WRS results and/or GTPlanet Times Database ;
• video replays are not accepted, only .max, .xps or .sps files can be verified.

 

[Metar]

OHHH WEEE! That's gonna be great! A Parade of cars...

Honk-Honk @ Hong Kong, a Traffic-jam!


I just hate Hong Kong... I expect no more than a bronze.

My possible contenders right now are the Shelby 'Stang 350, or the 'Vette Stingray. The Sting for this awsome design, and the Shelby for the light weight. Probably the Stingray.

 

[Ren-Tec]

This might be bad one for me cos its the one track where the Ai are just as quick as me, if not quicker
But on a good note this week i get to choose the car cool

 

[steven]

This might be bad one for me cos its the one track were the Ai are just as quick as me, if not quicker
But on a good note this week i get to choose the car cool

hi michael, i don't know how well you know gt4 but if it says 'time trail' you won't be bothered by ai cars like in 'single race' mode.

to cyril: i thought that by now you knew i don't like city tracks. why do you keep using them in wrs? you know, one day i'll set up my own race competition just to get rid of this ... oh well i might just do it right now ... oh, i think i already did LOL

 

[Metar]

List of cars and the required adjustments to them:

(Sorted from the lowest weight to the highest. Cars in bold are recommended because of a certain feature)
(Weight given is always the arcade-mode 10% off)
(a + means power must be added, a - means it needs less)

Competitive Cars:

Shelby 350GTR Mustang: 1141KG (👍), therefore needs 285BHP (-7%) (Low weight and nimble handling)

Chevy Camaro SS: 1260KG, 315BHP (+)

Chevrolet Camaro Z28 302 1969: 1273KG, so 318BHP(+)

Mercury Cougar XR: 1276KG, 319BHP (0%)

Pontiac Tempest GTO Le Mans: 1278KG, 319BHP (-)

Chevrolet Corvette C3 Stingray: 1341KG, 335BHP (-5%)

Cuda Sixpack: 1418KG, 354BHP (-)

Dodge Charger R/T 440: 1485GK, 371BHP (-1%) (Produced good splits for the Div1 drivers, and is a good sportscar)

Plymouth Superbird: 1579KG, 394BHP (-)

Chevrolet Chevelle SS: 1585KG, 396BHP (-12%)

Dodge Superbee HEMI: 1656KG, 414BHP (-3%)

There are some others I probably didn't see, tell me and I'll add it, for the convinience of other users.

Un-eligible/Worthless cars:

Shelby Cobra: Much too powerful. Would need 240HP to be competitive.

Chevrolet Corvette Coupe (C2) 1963: +20% Power won't give it the required PTW. Pass this car.

Buick Special '62: Waaayyy too much power.

Notes: The Chevy Coupe isn't powerfull enough to reach the 4 PTW ratio, only 4.14 is achievable. I'd say, you can take the car, but it won't win you anything. The Buick is just much too powerfull to reach a 4 PTW ratio...

Pretty final, I think. I'll add percents as the week progresses.

Hope to Help!

 

[Tedehur]

Here is a list of all eligible cars. But wait, you need to search a bit by yourself, so I'll only post cars that have been mentioned already.

• Corvette Stingray L46 350 (C3) '69 (-5% power = 333 hp)
• Shelby Mustang G.T. 350R (-7% power = 284 hp)

Edit :
Nice job Metar. I'll let you progress a bit more before I post a list (it might not even be worth it.

 

[Metar]

Haha, I finished doing (most) of the list with the help of the Wiki and my cellphone calculator...

EDIT: Added the Buick, and started adding Cyril's percents

 

[PimpF]

Thank's Gingiba, you saved me some time

 

[daan]

http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/videos/04/broadband.html

The man himself loves the Charger. He owns/owned a '69 Charger in lime green.

 

[rmk700]

Haha, I finished doing (most) of the list with the help of the Wiki and my cellphone calculator...

EDIT: Added the Buick, and started adding Cyril's percents

I don't think the Buick special is a road car. Its a tunner car.

 

[Tedehur]

The Buick Special is a road car but it has a p/w ratio under 3, even at -20% power.

 

[daan]

My first splits are

31.032
1'05.109

In a 371bhp Charger. DFP & D2

 

[ßen]

Yet another crappy week imo.
Bugger it 👎

I f'ing HATE multi-choice races.
No offence intended Cyril.

Metar, you got any ideas for our ARS this week?

 

[Super T]

A-ha, spotted this weeks typo already....You put normal tyres Cyril.

 

[Tedehur]

Yet another crappy week imo.
Bugger it 👎

I f'ing HATE multi-choice races.
No offence intended Cyril.

None taken.
Especially from someone who co-organizes a series where each race is a multiple choice

 

[ßen]

None taken.
Especially from someone who co-organizes a series where each race is a multiple choice

But that series has different ethics, it's totally different to WRS. The idea is to have fun, not be the total best there is.

If a series is to see who is fastest, multi car choice is a no-no in my opinion.

But that's just me.

 

[rmk700]

The Buick Special is a road car but it has a p/w ratio under 3, even at -20% power.

Ok, its out. But I disagree on road car. When selected in Arcade Mode at the top right its states its a Tuner Car. NTSC it is, not sure with Pal.

 

[El Jarretto]

All these cars seem to under steer so badly.

 

[steven]

gentleman (and ben): language, language.

obviously i don't agree with friend ben about multi-car events. in fact, a wrs week is less exciting to me if i cannot pick a car from a little list.

which is why i browsed thru my garage for something i could drive in that eastern city. god, do i unlike old american muscle. this week is a good lesson for learning breaking points and to cope with true massive understeer.

most of the cars behave really lousy, but this one is not too bad.

xxx 1276kg/316hp (-1%) 33.610 - 1.11.259

this is truly my very first go so don't laugh too loud please, it'll get better.

 

[Jump_Ace]

Cool beans, back in arcade mode wOOt! U gonna have time to race this week Curtis? I'd love to 'attempt' to chase ur splits.

Jerome

 

[z-reserve]

All these cars seem to under steer so badly.

Well, these american cars from the mid-60's and 70's are what made the modern ones known as 'bend allergenics'.

I begin to see that the picture gives a clue on a possible fav car to use (Stingray ).

 

[hOt6o4bOi]

yup arcade mode

dont know bout all the car choices tho

 

[dylansan]

Yay! It's time to jump at the chance to use the Superbird! I've loved it since M14, and now I get to use it! Once again, hooray!

Although, my times aren't as good as I'd hoped. (no times to share just yet, still working on finding the right line.)

On a side note, can anyone verify if the file in this thread is usable, I don't want to submit my replay and then find out it doesn't work.

 

[holl01]

hmm, f'ing s'house track choice, hong kong is one of the worst and most unenjoyable tracks to drive in forward, i can imagine how terribly crap it would be in reverse, and alot of car choices make combo not as inticing as previous weeks, we will see

 

[Casio]

I was thinking that you should add Power-To-Weight is in HP/KG. Just in case people are using KW or lb or PS or other funny systems.

Also, this is getting very technical for the typo comp. But isn't 'american' a proper noun therefore needing a capital letter?

 

[Jake]

I don't understand why no one likes Hong Kong. It's one of my favorite tracks! (haven't run it much in reverse though) It also looks great in 1080i by the way.

There's no doubt that I will take the Shelby Mustang on this one. I have been running that car a lot in GT mode lately. It's just a blast to drive! 👍

 

[NightmareHunter]

I'll have to see if one of my draem cars can fit in this race or not. I don't the age of the car, or the name for that matter

 

[AngelCreator]

This week does not look like fun, but I will drive it anyways.

 

[KLR142]

Here is a list of all eligible cars. But wait, you need to search a bit by yourself, so I'll only post cars that have not been mentioned already.

• Corvette Stingray L46 350 (C3) '69 (-5% power = 333 hp)
• Shelby Mustang G.T. 350R (-7% power = 284 hp)

Edit :
Nice job Metar. I'll let you progress a bit more before I post a list (it might not even be worth it.

I found the typo! I think. Well, it makes sense that it's a typo now, but there might have been something that's already been edited out of this thread...?

And Cyril, any reason why we can't go older than '60? What if I want to drive one of the original muscle cars? Like the 53 or whatever Corvette C1? Or maybe, you're saving that one for later because I like it so much? GT Mode full tune, medium or harder tires, maybe even sports?

I might just get a head start on this race and leave week 74 behind... Very possible actually. Yep, I'm going to do that. Will submit week 74 now. 👍 Tis a shame I didn't start on it earlier though!

Well after seeing Daan's time, I guess I can rule out my skillz with the DS2 and/or the Shelby... After about 20+ minutes of struggling with wheelspin and what not I'm at a 1'08.08, that I thought was decent. Time for the next car!

Looked into the Cuda 6 Pack, and it's specs are 352hp/1418KG, sorry I don't remember the %hp lost to make the 4.0 ratio. Drove it a bit after the Shelby, and was about on top of myself, but not ahead after two laps or so. Gave up kind of early, it did have better grip in braking and turns than the Shelby, so it may have some possible potential?

Then took out the beast of a Chevelle SS, that thing sucked at handling, but was quite the torquer and managed to chop off a couple seconds from the Shelby. Definitely a point and shoot car.

Then followed with the Super Bee, don't remember the specs, but it was a massive porker and couldn't keep up.

Then, the 440 R/T... Oh what a drive. Has traction, actually handles somewhat(normal tires permitting), and is fun. Took me a good while to actually get a clean lap, but it's a good start. It also has a better pwr/wt ratio compared to the others I tried.

30.414
1'04.603

Should have at least another half a second left in it for me by T2 if I spend enough time on it. 2-3 tenths is more likely though by then, and another 2-3 additional by the finish.

Oh, forgot to mention a couple of things.

First of all, my thumb hurts.

Second of all, it's amazing how rude and disrespectful some egoed people can be when displaying their OPINION of things... IMO.

 

[ßen]

Second of all, it's amazing how rude and disrespectful some egoed people can be when displaying their OPINION of things... IMO.

Aimed at me I see....

Everyone can express their opinion and I never offended anyone saying what I did, so therefore I am in the right.
Becasue IN MY OPINION (Remember, opinions are ones personal thoughts, and aren't always there to knock others opinions) this week is awful.


Full stop.