GT4 WRS Week 75 : "Hong-Kong King"
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I'm in two kinds of hell this week!
Hong Kong reverse, in an overpowered skip with wheels, and an antiquated suspension that doesn't let it turn!
Hong Kong forward, in an underpowered skip with wheels, and an AWD system that doesn't let it turn!
Ah, well might as well get used to it, cos it'll be where I am going, that's for sure!
Neil
Hong Kong reverse, in an overpowered skip with wheels, and an antiquated suspension that doesn't let it turn!
Hong Kong forward, in an underpowered skip with wheels, and an AWD system that doesn't let it turn!
Ah, well might as well get used to it, cos it'll be where I am going, that's for sure!
Neil
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I'm in two kinds of hell this week!
Hong Kong reverse, in an overpowered skip with wheels, and an antiquated suspension that doesn't let it turn!
Hong Kong forward, in an underpowered skip with wheels, and an AWD system that doesn't let it turn!
Ah, well might as well get used to it, cos it'll be where I am going, that's for sure!
Neil
Any clues on which car each one was? I'll suppose the AWD was either a Subaru, or a Keicar...
Which of the 12 eligible overpowered skips with wheels did you use?
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Tedehur
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Ok, here is the list of all 12 eligible cars :
Car.............................................power.....p/w ratio
Chevrolet Camaro SS '69.........................+5%...314 hp...4.013
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 302 '69....................+9%...316 hp...4.028
Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 '70..................-12%...395 hp...4.013
Chevrolet Corvette Coupe (C2) '63..............+20%...298 hp...4.138
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray L46 350 (C3) '69....-5%...333 hp...4.027
Dodge Charger 440 R/T '70.......................-1%...371 hp...4.003
Dodge Charger Super Bee 426 Hemi '71............-3%...412 hp...4.019
Mercury Cougar XR-7 '67.........................-1%...316 hp...4.038
Plymouth Cuda 440 Six Pack '71..................-8%...352 hp...4.028
Plymouth Super Bird '70.........................-7%...394 hp...4.008
Pontiac Tempest Le Mans GTO '64.................-3%...317 hp...4.032
Shelby Mustang G.T. 350R '65....................-7%...284 hp...4.018
Car.............................................power.....p/w ratio
Chevrolet Camaro SS '69.........................+5%...314 hp...4.013
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 302 '69....................+9%...316 hp...4.028
Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 '70..................-12%...395 hp...4.013
Chevrolet Corvette Coupe (C2) '63..............+20%...298 hp...4.138
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray L46 350 (C3) '69....-5%...333 hp...4.027
Dodge Charger 440 R/T '70.......................-1%...371 hp...4.003
Dodge Charger Super Bee 426 Hemi '71............-3%...412 hp...4.019
Mercury Cougar XR-7 '67.........................-1%...316 hp...4.038
Plymouth Cuda 440 Six Pack '71..................-8%...352 hp...4.028
Plymouth Super Bird '70.........................-7%...394 hp...4.008
Pontiac Tempest Le Mans GTO '64.................-3%...317 hp...4.032
Shelby Mustang G.T. 350R '65....................-7%...284 hp...4.018
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Sure, despite the fact you'll serve my rear end to me on a platter But it's gotta be a two-weeker, I must have a chance for my rebuttal after you win this week (which we all know will happen 
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@Cyril: Take us to the 'ring next week
Arcade. Street Circuit. N-Tyres! Colby feel like an avatar comp
Sure, despite the fact you'll serve my rear end to me on a platter
But it's gotta be a two-weeker, I must have a chance for my rebuttal after you win this week (which we all know will happen )@Cyril: Take us to the 'ring next week
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Ok. You're on Colby 👍
I did forget to add last night, I am using the Stingray. If you search a while back through the Long Race Series. You'll find something called the American Muscle Cup. Or something along those lines. Anyway, the C3 Corvette pretty much romped away.
I'd think the newer cars would be generally better. Has anyone tried the 454 yet?
I did forget to add last night, I am using the Stingray. If you search a while back through the Long Race Series. You'll find something called the American Muscle Cup. Or something along those lines. Anyway, the C3 Corvette pretty much romped away.
I'd think the newer cars would be generally better. Has anyone tried the 454 yet?
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- driehuis (nl)
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was it kyle that learned us to use MT and stay in 3rd, maybe 2nd?
and who told us to stick to the stingray?
anyway, i tried both and got instant improvement on my lap.
32.629 - 1.08.612
very weird because i'm so used to AT and tcs, now its MT and no aids with ultralow revs for these weird ironers.
nice to get to know this side of car choice as well!
with cyril's car matrix maybe there's more fun to come.
and who told us to stick to the stingray?
anyway, i tried both and got instant improvement on my lap.
32.629 - 1.08.612
very weird because i'm so used to AT and tcs, now its MT and no aids with ultralow revs for these weird ironers.
nice to get to know this side of car choice as well!
with cyril's car matrix maybe there's more fun to come.
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Hey guys,
I'm gonna trip the land mine (because this shouldn't be dropping a bomb for anyone
).
The Corvette Rules (sounds a little fanboyish).
Right now this race is probably more about Traction and Power than Braking and Handling. Of course, the Corvette combines all aspects without suffering great loss in any regard. (sp?)
Handles well and lays down the power even better than the Shelby.
I ran down to low 1'08s and rather quickly, which should be an indincator that more advanced drivers (like wrs regulars) will be able to run the Vette down to mid low 1'04s.
Hope that helps any of the people here who didn't see the vette jump out at them.
Later.
I'm gonna trip the land mine (because this shouldn't be dropping a bomb for anyone
).The Corvette Rules (sounds a little fanboyish).
Right now this race is probably more about Traction and Power than Braking and Handling. Of course, the Corvette combines all aspects without suffering great loss in any regard. (sp?)
Handles well and lays down the power even better than the Shelby.
I ran down to low 1'08s and rather quickly, which should be an indincator that more advanced drivers (like wrs regulars) will be able to run the Vette down to mid low 1'04s.
Hope that helps any of the people here who didn't see the vette jump out at them.
Later.
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Shelby Mustang G.T. 350R '65. Well I just found my car! I love this CAR!
I'll have to get some times in tomorrow. Me sleepy, go to bed now. Nite nite. (I have a cafein buzz right now, so thats why I'm kind a weird right now.) Oh heck! I'm weird anyway
I'll have to get some times in tomorrow. Me sleepy, go to bed now. Nite nite. (I have a cafein buzz right now, so thats why I'm kind a weird right now.) Oh heck! I'm weird anyway
Had a 20 minute run with the Dodge Charger, il probably stick with this car because its too much effort learning multiple braking points and car characteristics etc. Anyways here are my early splits...
T1 - 30.954
T2 - 1'05.107
Finished off with a poor last sector (lost about .5 by the time i crossed the line)
T1 - 30.954
T2 - 1'05.107
Finished off with a poor last sector (lost about .5 by the time i crossed the line)
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First 15 min session with my lil' 350 Vette '69:
EDIT: My bad, I just threw the weight down to -10% like its says on the first post. I take it we have to match ur hp and weight with the list of 12 approved cars? Just dbl checking. Will post splits soon....I hope, lol.
T1 - :28.636
T2 - 1:01.484
Final DON'T F'ING ASK! I truly lost 1 whole second as soon as I crossed T2....DAMMIT, lolz...good start tho
Jerome
EDIT: My bad, I just threw the weight down to -10% like its says on the first post. I take it we have to match ur hp and weight with the list of 12 approved cars? Just dbl checking. Will post splits soon....I hope, lol.
T1 - :28.636
T2 - 1:01.484
Final DON'T F'ING ASK! I truly lost 1 whole second as soon as I crossed T2....DAMMIT, lolz...good start tho
Jerome
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Okhere are my T times so far.
T1-31:260
T2-1:05:963
I will give the Vette a try tomorrow and see what I get.
Also next time you think of a race Flat-out could you please replace
"nomal tires" with "sport hard only". The race would be soo much more fun.
T1-31:260
T2-1:05:963
I will give the Vette a try tomorrow and see what I get.
Also next time you think of a race Flat-out could you please replace
"nomal tires" with "sport hard only". The race would be soo much more fun.
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First of all, Jerome is definitely using the wrong setup. I can tell you that with 100% confidence... He's not that much faster than I in any way, shape or form.
Put some racing tires on there and I'm sure you'll change your mind right quick. I'm sure they don't handle that great, but the only understeer like that because they don't have TIRES! Come on now, 400hp with bias ply tires that are about as wide as todays 195s or so? Most 400hp cars today have at least 265 series RADIAL tires. So they don't act as poorly in stock trim.
Lol, you could partially blame it on the age as well... 👍 Gnight!
I'll start racing here in a bit. I think the Charger(remember, there are TWO of them, and the one you want is the 440 R/T), may still have some decent fight in it left, although maybe not quite as much as the C3 Vette...
He's not that much faster than I in any way, shape or form.Lol, come on now guys! These cars don't turn nearly as bad as you all make them out to be. Stop blaming the cars for their tires already!Nevermind Cyril...It was only something that would've resulted in something like this;
****! These ******* cars can't turn for *******!
Trans: Crikey old chap! These cars can't turn for toffee!
Darren.
Put some racing tires on there and I'm sure you'll change your mind right quick. I'm sure they don't handle that great, but the only understeer like that because they don't have TIRES! Come on now, 400hp with bias ply tires that are about as wide as todays 195s or so? Most 400hp cars today have at least 265 series RADIAL tires. So they don't act as poorly in stock trim.Well, if you read my posts from last night...
3rd for most of the turns, some cars/drivers may be able to take the last left kink on the docks in 4th just as well if not better. For the hairpin pretty much every car will work best in 2nd. It's a bit tricky to keep it in the powerband, and get the car pointed straight to get all the way back on the gas(without spinning the inside tire, which=slow), all at the same time. And about the ultralow revs, these engines are biiig, and made lots of low down torque, usually not too much power up top. Definitely something else to keep in mind when shifting gears... 👍
Ahh yes, low to mid '04s will be easy in the Vette I assume. Old timers/aliens should be in mid-lower '02s possibly. And about the Shelby, I'm not so sure it even puts down the power that nicely, it just lacks the midrange punch that the bigger engines have.Handles well and lays down the power even better than the Shelby.
I ran down to low 1'08s and rather quickly, which should be an indincator that more advanced drivers (like wrs regulars) will be able to run the Vette down to mid low 1'04s.
Hope that helps any of the people here who didn't see the vette jump out at them.
Later.
(I have a cafein buzz right now, so thats why I'm kind a weird right now.) Oh heck! I'm weird anyway
Lol, you could partially blame it on the age as well... 👍 Gnight!I'll start racing here in a bit. I think the Charger(remember, there are TWO of them, and the one you want is the 440 R/T), may still have some decent fight in it left, although maybe not quite as much as the C3 Vette...
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Sure you've got the right power and tyres Jerome?! Those are some mighty quick times after 15 minutes.
HHmmm.....perhaps not I just saw the LB...D'OH! Gonna be a long night indeed, sorry guys I should THOROUGHLY read the req's there, now embarassing!
Will race with the CORRECT NORMAL TIRES, bummer.
Jerome
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That's right biatch! Lol.
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So, just had my first half an hour or so in the C3. Please read:
This car is not in the same class as the others, aside from maybe the Shelby, the other corvette, and the Camaro duo. It's designed from the box as a sports car, not just some big lumbering barge with a big, powerful engine. It is able to MAINTAIN some handling while on Normal tires(also as I've found with the C1 corvette and most likely the C2 as well). You ARE able to turn under braking, and you are able to turn under power. Some of the reason for the ability to turn under power is because this car is NOT geared for the 1/4 mile only, which is the case for the other breadboxes that I've driven thus far(other than the Shelby, which is just geared for short track, but lacks midrange torque from it's smaller engine).
For someone looking to go fast, and not take too much effort, the C3 is your pick. It took me a good while to beat my Charger lap, and I don't think it's clean anyway. The muscle cars are more point and shoot, and try to not let the inside tire spin. The C3 is more of maintain your speed, try not to go too slow(doesn't have the big block torque to overcome it's taller gearing), and try not to slide too much. This car will put it's tail out where the others will spin an inside tire. Although, if you can keep that inside tire from spinning and somehow maintain a similar speed through the turns, the Charger will pull away from the Vette out of them...
That pretty much sums it up? I think I got most of what I wanted to say in there.
Oh yeah, I want to hear about, and possibly try myself, the two Camaros. They're not such a muscle car, but more of a lighter sports car like the Corvette, although built on more of a budget. I don't think they'll be in the top few cars though as they have less horsepower and torque, which means even though they may have a similar pwr/wt ratio, they won't have the same speed at the end of the straights, usually.
Lol.---
So, just had my first half an hour or so in the C3. Please read:
This car is not in the same class as the others, aside from maybe the Shelby, the other corvette, and the Camaro duo. It's designed from the box as a sports car, not just some big lumbering barge with a big, powerful engine. It is able to MAINTAIN some handling while on Normal tires(also as I've found with the C1 corvette and most likely the C2 as well). You ARE able to turn under braking, and you are able to turn under power. Some of the reason for the ability to turn under power is because this car is NOT geared for the 1/4 mile only, which is the case for the other breadboxes that I've driven thus far(other than the Shelby, which is just geared for short track, but lacks midrange torque from it's smaller engine).
For someone looking to go fast, and not take too much effort, the C3 is your pick. It took me a good while to beat my Charger lap, and I don't think it's clean anyway. The muscle cars are more point and shoot, and try to not let the inside tire spin. The C3 is more of maintain your speed, try not to go too slow(doesn't have the big block torque to overcome it's taller gearing), and try not to slide too much. This car will put it's tail out where the others will spin an inside tire. Although, if you can keep that inside tire from spinning and somehow maintain a similar speed through the turns, the Charger will pull away from the Vette out of them...
That pretty much sums it up? I think I got most of what I wanted to say in there.
Oh yeah, I want to hear about, and possibly try myself, the two Camaros. They're not such a muscle car, but more of a lighter sports car like the Corvette, although built on more of a budget. I don't think they'll be in the top few cars though as they have less horsepower and torque, which means even though they may have a similar pwr/wt ratio, they won't have the same speed at the end of the straights, usually.
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Well I"m outta time now today and probably the whole week o well was MUCH funner on the Sports tires anyway because, well its easier what can I say I'm lazy as hell, eh? Laters!
Jerome
Jerome
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Lol, pussay!
Anywho, after further driving of the C3(now .3 faster than my charger, yet still dirty I think), I've come to realize that it indeed has a LSD, unlike the other cars available. That's why the tail out instead of inside wheel spin, not just because it has less midrange torque and taller gearing... 👍
Also, I forgot to mention that my 3rd/4th gear style does not work for this car. This car you use 1st(not full throttle until almost all the way through it though) in the hairpin and the last turn, second for the others, except for third on the docks. 👍
Anywho, after further driving of the C3(now .3 faster than my charger, yet still dirty I think), I've come to realize that it indeed has a LSD, unlike the other cars available. That's why the tail out instead of inside wheel spin, not just because it has less midrange torque and taller gearing... 👍
Also, I forgot to mention that my 3rd/4th gear style does not work for this car. This car you use 1st(not full throttle until almost all the way through it though) in the hairpin and the last turn, second for the others, except for third on the docks. 👍
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Soooooooo, over an hour and 15 minutes into the C3, and I'm just over 1 second faster at the line than my Charger lap, yet still DIRTY... 
Then, I hopped into something else...
30.240
1'03.554
I'll give you all a day or two to figure out what's up before I spill beans...
Definitely appears I need to improve my T1 though, which means my T2 shall improve as well...
Then, I hopped into something else...
30.240
1'03.554
I'll give you all a day or two to figure out what's up before I spill beans...
Definitely appears I need to improve my T1 though, which means my T2 shall improve as well...
There are three categories of tires, Normal, Sports, and Racing. The best tires you can use for this week's race is N3, or Road tires. 👍
Soooooooo, over an hour and 15 minutes into the C3, and I'm just over 1 second faster at the line than my Charger lap, yet still DIRTY...
Then, I hopped into something else...
30.240
1'03.554
I'll give you all a day or two to figure out what's up before I spill beans...
Definitely appears I need to improve my T1 though, which means my T2 shall improve as well...
There are three categories of tires, Normal, Sports, and Racing. The best tires you can use for this week's race is N3, or Road tires. 👍
aight thanks
Pink_the_Floyd
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I'm confused about the rules, if I want to use the Charger, how much weight and power should I add/remove?
