GT4 WRS Week 76 : "Snake in the Valley"
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Sphinx
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Straight line speed Test
Test Course
Topspeed = 330
Standing start - (2nd gear used to prevent wheelspin)
Manual gears
Test:
0-400
NTSC: 09.848 (144MPH)
Screenshot
PAL: 09.841 (142MPH)
Screenshot
Test:
0-1000
NTSC: 18.012 (180MPH)
Screenshot
PAL: 18.171 (175MPH)
Screenshot
Test:
Max Speed*
NTSC: 194MPH
Screenshot
PAL: 188MPH
Screenshot
*Max speed achieved by end of straight
Test Course
Topspeed = 330
Standing start - (2nd gear used to prevent wheelspin)
Manual gears
Test:
0-400
NTSC: 09.848 (144MPH)
Screenshot
PAL: 09.841 (142MPH)
Screenshot
Test:
0-1000
NTSC: 18.012 (180MPH)
Screenshot
PAL: 18.171 (175MPH)
Screenshot
Test:
Max Speed*
NTSC: 194MPH
Screenshot
PAL: 188MPH
Screenshot
*Max speed achieved by end of straight
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- driehuis (nl)
- GTP_Steven
here's my $0.02 on the pal/ntsc discussion.
1 = it should be continued in a separate thread
2 = until decided otherwise all wrs players should agree to participate regardless their gt4 version
3 = i wish cyril wisdom in deciding what to do next
for your convenience i have set up a new thread to accomodate in point #1.
meanwhile, thanks for all the work to shig and the others.
1 = it should be continued in a separate thread
2 = until decided otherwise all wrs players should agree to participate regardless their gt4 version
3 = i wish cyril wisdom in deciding what to do next
for your convenience i have set up a new thread to accomodate in point #1.
meanwhile, thanks for all the work to shig and the others.
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Yes, this should be carried out in another thread now. But one last thing to point out.
The PAL version has the advantage in the 400M, although NTSC seems to have the trap speed advantage.
The NTSC version gains an advantage going into the 1000 and MAX SPEED results. This supports my theory that the ORECA has a large power drop off late, and the average HP up high given each input in the powerband, NTSC has an advantage because it has more inputs to average, that is simple math.
EDIT....
I am writing a spreadsheet (Excel) that can visually show what I am talking about in average HP per 'input' for both NTSC and PAL.
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I have not tried this from my last time so i'm going to send it in.
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holl01
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yes, i was just letting gtplanet members know that one of our racers got stooged badly due to the differences and as a result lost his race when he probably deserved the win on skill.
Sphinx
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In that case, you can also let the GTP Members know that you were also given ample time to test the proposed combo before voting took place. As already been mentioned in this thread, this is nothing new, there has always been a difference and therefore shouldve been tested by your team before voting took place. Obviously your team didnt test it. Learn from your mistake and move on.
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What I dislike about situations like this is the fact that I can't personally test this out. 
I look at the screen shot and see that in every one where PAL is slower in time and speed PAL is also lower in RPMs.
Luckily, I trust that Sphinx is more about the testing and science of this. However, science should recognize "trust."
In the end I'll still take what Sphinx says, but at the same time I can see room for even what he has provided to be skewed in by various factors in each scenerio (launch, throttle application, gearing, etc etc).
Oh well, I suppose this means PAL and NTSC will forever have to race without one another... Personally, I still don't like the idea of submitting this week simply because I don't want to submit, beat a PAL racer by .3 and have my time contested based on the issue at hand. 👎
I guess this is just how it goes... We find what is generally considered a screw-up by PD and we end up paying for it. 👎
I just hope they fix this up before they try to act like a real online mode is possible- not with these kinds of disrepencies!
I look at the screen shot and see that in every one where PAL is slower in time and speed PAL is also lower in RPMs.
Luckily, I trust that Sphinx is more about the testing and science of this. However, science should recognize "trust."
In the end I'll still take what Sphinx says, but at the same time I can see room for even what he has provided to be skewed in by various factors in each scenerio (launch, throttle application, gearing, etc etc).
Oh well, I suppose this means PAL and NTSC will forever have to race without one another... Personally, I still don't like the idea of submitting this week simply because I don't want to submit, beat a PAL racer by .3 and have my time contested based on the issue at hand. 👎
I guess this is just how it goes... We find what is generally considered a screw-up by PD and we end up paying for it. 👎
I just hope they fix this up before they try to act like a real online mode is possible- not with these kinds of disrepencies!
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- GTP_Steven
why are we still talking pal/ntsc in this thread? cyril agrees too, so it should be continued in its appropriate thread, let's behave as good gtp citizens and do it.
thanks!
thanks!
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Hi everybody! Just wanna ask something... Can I send my replay in .mpeg format???
- 341
That's a pity. MaxDrive, X-Port, Sharkport - that's devices, that can help to send my 'plays from PS to PC? If so, never saw them... Any ideas where can I get them, or read about? Need your help(((
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hi moscow man,
if you are serious in playing wrs or other tournaments in gtp it's a good idea to try to find a replay device such as maxdrive. in europe it's either available in game shops or can be bought online. devices that produce .max files are most commonly used.
they are used to make a bridge from your console to your desktop and up- or download gamesaves and replays.
good luck!
if you are serious in playing wrs or other tournaments in gtp it's a good idea to try to find a replay device such as maxdrive. in europe it's either available in game shops or can be bought online. devices that produce .max files are most commonly used.
they are used to make a bridge from your console to your desktop and up- or download gamesaves and replays.
good luck!
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Thank you for help, Bigracer. I think I'll find something like that) Great results for you on a racetrack & good luck! I will compare my times with your official results... for a while)) See you...
- 341
Thank you for help. Yeah, I have a PAL version of console & game.
