GT4 WRS Week 85: "Evo/WRX showdown"

[Casio]

Can't you just break a window or climb through the roof?

I had my first run today, using the EVO MR thingy

Someone around 31.7/15.8 although it was slightly dirty.

 

[shockwaveracing]

31.484 (31.212 is the best i have seen)
1'15.174 (in theory a 1'14.9 was possible)

overall i probably have another 0.3 left in it but i have done that many kms in this to get to where i am now that i cant be bothered chasing that extra time... TIME SUBMITTED

 

[steven]

i'm subbing too. one of my crappiest laps for lots of weeks i'm afraid. just didn't get to spend so much time at seattle that i could get my times to improve. no more city tracks for a while now please ...

 

[dylansan]

I love the car, I love the track, but I can't seem to enjoy them both at the same time. I haven't even gotten past 1'20.5xx yet . Hopefully next week I'll have more fun, this week's just making me too frustrated and stressed. Those walls seem to be magnetic while the apexes just repel me. Not subbing this week. (unless I decide to get the Spec C and race that, but it's unlikely)

Don't worry, if I like next week I'll be in that.

 

[STLbarcelona5]

Well maybe if I have time later, I'll finally upgrade my Evo RS and spend some time on this combo. But after finals, then flying home, then the whole being home for the first time in months hasn't left much time for racing. At least next week I'll be able to race! Just as long as it's not one of those slow depressing races where I wish I had DFP the whole time...

 

[MisterWeary]

Board Updated

 

[Metar]

Since you're online...

0'31.939 (Seen .73x's)
1'16.626 (Seen .3s)
Weirdddo splits.

Bad finish, which means that the 0.6 improvement is only 0.3 at the finish

Lots more to come, and I've still got 1 1/2 hours left

 

[Super T]

Board time submitted.

Couldn't find those last few elusive tenths. See you all at the finish, good luck guys.

Darren.

 

[Metar]

Board time submitted.

Couldn't find those last few elusive tenths. See you all at the finish, good luck guys.

Darren.

You're still 0.3 ahead of me, so... 1 more hour, tomorrow. Not many chances to beat your time... Or at least get those 0.028.

 

[Azuremen]

Trail braking is using the brakes while accelerating out of a corner to help understeer usually.

You are confusing trail braking and left foot braking

Trail braking is applied while entering the corner and steering in order to rotate the back end out. Its a common method in rally racing and drifting.

Left foot braking is used to cause some dive on the front of the car while still maintaining boost. It is mostly commonly used on FF cars.

And wow, am I slow this week. Must be because I refuse to use the Spec C or Evo MR thingy that everyone loves.

 

[Kent]

You are confusing trail braking and left foot braking

Trail braking is applied while entering the corner and steering in order to rotate the back end out. Its a common method in rally racing and drifting.

Left foot braking is used to cause some dive on the front of the car while still maintaining boost. It is mostly commonly used on FF cars.

And wow, am I slow this week. Must be because I refuse to use the Spec C or Evo MR thingy that everyone loves.

Actually, I think your messing up on left foot braking.
The left foot usually isn't the foot used to brake while holding rpm since the clutch is normally engaged when doing so (since you're most likely shifting gears through a turn where revs would otherwise die).
(I don't know what it's called, but you're using the right foot to go with the tip on the brake and heel on the gas... ? excellent examples are availible pm if you really want to hear about it).

Left foot braking seems to be only for automatic transmissions (or maybe GT with a wheel since there is no clutch).

In the real world, it's about keeping up the revolutions on RWD cars. Only the rwd'ers can do it since, on pretty much every modern car, the front brakes are the most powerful and in turn, the front brakes hold while the rear wheels spin (maybe? )
It does nothing for FF cars really...
FF drive with the same wheels you are using to brake... but wait, without ABS you could kill your brakes and get stuck with a full brake job.
For the sake of all FF drivers out there (corolla myself), you can do a rightfoot cross and make the car's moment shift pretty dramatically (relative to what you're driving ).

Good luck with all that in GT.
I'm sure holding both pedals is similar to what I do with square and X.
I have fun with it. 👍

Later.
Btw, is the deadline up yet... ?
I've got a clean 15.9 that's a bit of pace (maybe? )

Oddly,

 

[AngelCreator]

I see my time is holding up well. I guess I should put more work in to these
race's so I rank higher. I just need to stop before I go in to div1.

 

[MisterWeary]

Btw, is the deadline up yet... ?

Nope, still got another 8 hours or so till deadline 👍

 

[Ren-Tec]

ok here are my last splits, i could do better but mabe some other time.

T1:31.532
T2:1'15.724

Submitted 👍

 

[CRXnut]

AngelCreator - I didn't update my times as I'm still hoping for improvement.
I got good lap with 1'15.7 and I have seen some 1'15.4s

Edit - I give up. I should have been able to shave another 4 tenths off but I just keep messing up

Time submited

 

[DJ Baker]

Splits: 0'33.401/1'19.112

This was fun at first, but then I reached a dead end in my tuning efforts & it got frustrating.

 

[Azuremen]

Actually, I think your messing up on left foot braking.
The left foot usually isn't the foot used to brake while holding rpm since the clutch is normally engaged when doing so (since you're most likely shifting gears through a turn where revs would otherwise die).
(I don't know what it's called, but you're using the right foot to go with the tip on the brake and heel on the gas... ? excellent examples are availible pm if you really want to hear about it).

Left foot braking seems to be only for automatic transmissions (or maybe GT with a wheel since there is no clutch).

In the real world, it's about keeping up the revolutions on RWD cars. Only the rwd'ers can do it since, on pretty much every modern car, the front brakes are the most powerful and in turn, the front brakes hold while the rear wheels spin (maybe? )
It does nothing for FF cars really...
FF drive with the same wheels you are using to brake... but wait, without ABS you could kill your brakes and get stuck with a full brake job.
For the sake of all FF drivers out there (corolla myself), you can do a rightfoot cross and make the car's moment shift pretty dramatically (relative to what you're driving ).

And you are thinking of Toe and Heel in regard to matching revs while shifting.

This is left foot braking

In rallying it applies primarily to front-wheel drive vehicles. It is closely related to the handbrake turn, but involves locking the rear wheels using the foot brake, which is set up to apply a significant pressure bias to the rear brakes. The vehicle is balanced using engine power by use of the accelerator pedal, operated by the right foot. The left foot is thus brought into play to operate the brake. Rear-wheel drive rally vehicles do not use this technique because they can be much more easily turned rapidly by using excess power to the wheels and the use of opposite lock steering.

Swedish rally legend Stig Blomqvist is considered to be the inventor of left-foot braking, developing it while driving for the SAAB works team in the 60's and 70's.

This technique should not be confused with Heel-and-Toe, another driving technique.

More details - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_foot_braking

And left foot braking does do stuff in my Corolla, but I primarily use it when karting, as those stupid little things have such narrow power bands

 

[Kent]

Wiki, I stand corrected.

Of course, I wasn't really talking about specialized rally race cars with rearward-biased brakes.
Just a tiny difference there that should be noted. 👍

Wow, I just looked at that page and I'm suprised... The section on Automatic transmission left foot braking was mighty interesting.

 

[KLR142]

Taking a break from kicking my own ass... I'm having trouble maintaining concentration. It sucks. And when I get going fast, I cause issues for myself. Blah blah blah. Soooooo fasssssssssst.



I left foot brake in my RWD auto every once and a while to get the car to downshift before I get to the turn so I can power out. It's obviously very hard on the brakes, but it makes for nice smooth exits instead of a stupid downshift in the middle of the turn. And in GT, I've always liked trail braking, this week it's quite useful, too.

 

[KLR142]

8:50PM (deadline is at 3:00AM)
*****************************************************************K!!!!!

I just threw away a 1'14.4xx.

I even held it conservatively through the final chicane, but due to the insanely immense stress of an insanely lucky lap, I didn't turn right soon enough to keep from hitting the outside(left) wall on the straight. I was going slow enough, I just didn't turn in. DAMNIT!!!

I still have time though, we'll see if I can tie something even remotely near that together.

On my previous setup that I was running the other day(what was it, thursday last week or something?), I managed a fluke 1'14.6, but tied together a couple of 1'14.7xxs. Their finishes weren't anywhere near as good as Hugo's, but they were 1'14.7s none the less.

Then here's tonight. I try that setup, and it's way to inconsistent. I wasted a lot of time that thursday night trying to make that setup work, it was only good with a decent helping of luck. Tonight I've made a simple change that I should've done way way sooner. For the most part I haven't had anything under 1'15 at T3, but my finishes have been stronger than before. And then, I whip this thing out, holy cow. And wall it!!!

I've seen 31.0xx at T1 now. Please please please let me get something near a 1'14.7 or better and finish it fast...

10:14PM

Finishing up my break from the past bit of racing... Oye. No sucess yet. Had one where I thought I was going to do allright, 1'14.7 with a decent finish, but ended up going sloooooow. Argh!

Here I go. I need to get something soon, I didn't get enough sleep last night and it's getting late... Oye. GO GO GO!

 

[TPapp]

I dont get it, this makes no sense to me. I'm not used to chasing for such a mediocre lap time....alas that is what has happened to me this week. I think I need to start doin some trail braking (though I've never heard of anyone doing it in GT until now). Heres my splits:

T1: 32.017
T2: 1:16.993

Thanks again to Angel Creator and Hugo Boss for helpin me with setup.

 

[OldDriverDan]

Like driving the Evos. My entry was in an Mit. Evo. VIII MR..GSR and I was happy with the result. Ran a little wide in turn one.

T1-33.774
T2- 1.20.549

ODD

 

[CRXnut]

TPapp - you are doing ok. It's just KLR going crazy at his home track :-)

 

[KLR142]

RAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!* I just ran a NOT crazy 1'14.50x. Then I barely, BARELY nicked a wall in there somewhere. I even finished the lap decently too... waaaaaaaah.

I'll see if I can get Jerome to make a video of my 1'14.4 lap though so you guys can see the crazy antics at work there. Maybe I'll have him end it at 1'14 so you don't see the crappy rest of the lap.

*I sometimes appear quite loud and aggravated when I'm full of adrenaline and excited... Don't worry, everything's ok. And I'm definitely having a blast. I just want a fast clean lap!!!! 👍

To everyone who's still racing, GOOD LUCK! Stick with it! Until it's bedtime, or time for work, or what not...

 

[MisterWeary]

Sounds like you're giving it your all Kyle, good to see Just over 3.5 hours to go!

 

[TPapp]

TPapp - you are doing ok. It's just KLR going crazy at his home track :-)

I suppose, but its still frustrating. Cant wait for this weeks race though....F-1 car on Laguna??? Hopefully.

 

[KLR142]

Sounds like you're giving it your all Kyle, good to see Just over 3.5 hours to go!

With the time I've been able to put into it, oh yes... Finally have something I won't be too disappointed with submitting, and it's actually completely clean!

Here're the splits:
31.218
1'14.671
Finish = Not fast enough. I can do better, lost 2-3 tenths, should be able to gain at least that by the time I'm done overall... I sure hope anyway! If not, I won't meet my goal!

 

[KLR142]

Thanks for updating the Leaderboard Colby! Hopefully I can get ONE more, faster lap in after this one before I submit.

I'm definitely happy with this one as two out of the three sectors are really good, but the middle one is nothing to brag about compared to some others that I've pulled out. So I'll go back and try to clean up that second sector a bit.

This lap was done chasing a lap before it where I did basically the same first sector, but the second sector was also a SCORCHER that was a 1'14.2XX!!! This current lap though is a whole .25 faster though at the finish, despite being .5ish back at T2. That's how much time can be hiding in the last sector! TONS!

31.069
1'14.796
Finish = Good(maybe not quite good enough though?). But I obviously can do better.

 

[Metar]

Improvements.
0'31.969
1'16.617
And 0.2 quicker over the line

EDIT:

Aya, Oh! Darren, you're behind me
0'32.100 ( Could've improved there...)
1'16.464 (What's the deal with those splits? Am I haunted?)
Time submitted. Totally satisfied with my result.

And Colby - I accidentally sent the draft I wrote while driving. Ignore it...

 

[KLR142]

Good job Metar!

And, well, that'll be it for me this week! That lap I think is fast enough, and I really, really need to get to sleep. Left a hard to get .3-.4 in it, but that's that!