GT4 WRS Week 85: "Evo/WRX showdown"

[Ren-Tec]

Thank my Ds2, iv finally got a clean lap after find my old one was dirty. One tiny error and your lap is over, in the bin. Its not a great lap but its clean and more setup to come.

T1: 31.586
T2: 1'16.098

I feel like im making a Knight rider or smokey and the bandit film lol

 

[zdenko]

Edit:

Deleted all the crap i went on about because i found me time to read through the posts.

Anyway im using an evo 8 mr and i'm seeing s2's of 1'18's but they are all dirty.

Now i have a serious question?

The variable diff setting. What makes it more of a rwd putting it on 10 or 50? I can't figure it out because if i line the car up onto a wall put it in 1st gear and floor it in the replay all i see is the real wheels rotating if i put it on 10 or 50. Does this feature in the game even work?

 

[Super T]

I'm not going to update my splits anymore though this week. I'm making my move into D1, and I want it to be a suprise.

Cool and, er...surprise...whoops?

Now i have a serious question?

The variable diff setting. What makes it more of a rwd putting it on 10 or 50? I can't figure it out because if i line the car up onto a wall put it in 1st gear and floor it in the replay all i see is the real wheels rotating if i put it on 10 or 50. Does this feature in the game even work?

Putting the VCD setting to 10 means your sending most of the power to the rear wheels. Putting it at 50 splits the power 50/50 between the front and rear.

👍

Darren.

 

[Metar]

Ran a few laps, and noticed two things:

A) I have lots to improve. I had nothing clean so far, but I managed to dip into the 1'17s. I had a sweet lap, with a great finish, but messed up because I lost my nerves and bumped into the wall, on the straight.
I'll get some revised and improved splits, and try out the Spec C. We'll see, maybe I'll have to use the car I don't like just to be quicker...

B) The track-selection screen mentions that "The Winner will be decided through skill in suspension and tyre setup". How true - even though we can't setup tyres in GT4.

Anyway, new times from my brand new Spec-C Scoobaroo. I had to work bloody hard to pay for that too.

T1 0'32.630
T2 1'17.823

Two seconds quicker than my previous effort at the finish. I'd better thank Kent too as I used his settings as a base and just softened things up a bit to suit.

Just got to make every session count now as I can't afford to buy and tune another car.

Darren.

Ba*tard! When I thought I was finally with a (huge) advantage (Wagon Vs. MR?), you delete a save and beat me up good. Lets hope you can't pay for that oil after ~20 laps...

And just to annoy you, I just bought a Subie Rallycar, for fun. Now I've got every Impreza in the game.

 

[CRXnut]

Improved my lap times a bit.

0'31.613
1'15.975 (not very good thru bus stop)

in nearly stock Evo 8 RS (pretty much done with tweaking, now just learning to drive :-)

 

[KLR142]

Cool and, er...surprise...whoops?

Putting the VCD setting to 10 means your sending most of the power to the rear wheels. Putting it at 50 splits the power 50/50 between the front and rear.

👍

Darren.

Haha, thanks!

And yeah, zdenko you should be able to notice the difference when coming out of turns with the power on.

 

[dylansan]

My car(s) is/are so much slower than everyone elses, but I really like the '95 and '00. I don't want to use the Spec C, so I may not enter at all unless you guys want me too. I think I'll work on figuring out how to drift. I really stink at it.

 

[Super T]

My car(s) is/are so much slower than everyone elses, but I really like the '95 and '00. I don't want to use the Spec C, so I may not enter at all unless you guys want me too. I think I'll work on figuring out how to drift. I really stink at it.

Hey, don' let Kyle hear you say that. If you've got a lap send it in. You've still got a couple'a days to find more time though. 👍

Managed to scrape enough credits together to change my oil and boost the BHP levels back up a bit. Metar. I'll be back in a bit with some better splits, I hope.

Darren.

 

[Kent]

New time:
31.8 -> 1'15.936

Lost about .1 in the last section compared to my previous best.
That means I'm probably about .4 off of the average 1'15.9.

I'll try to get some more laps in but for now I'm content with cursing GT and their oil change policy. (ran my very fastest lap on a -5hp handicap).
And now my Subby has more than 200 miles too!

Why include miles and oil? Sometimes PD just kills me.

 

[CRXnut]

over 1000 kms on my Evo 8 RS :-)

 

[KLR142]

Thanks for the hint Darren, I almost overlooked it... Hahaha!

My car(s) is/are so much slower than everyone elses, but I really like the '95 and '00. I don't want to use the Spec C, so I may not enter at all unless you guys want me too. I think I'll work on figuring out how to drift. I really stink at it.

Everyone? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure you are NOT the only one using one of the older cars. And if you put any time at all into this competition you should submit. To show that you tried, and put forth the effort. You should be proud if you get to walk away with the title of the fastest non Spec C or whichever Mitsu is the fastest.

It's up to you. I've submitted laps in cars that I knew aren't the fastest out there that week, and I enjoy being the fastest in a car that's not the fastest. And I definitely enjoy beating people in a car that I know is faster than mine...

 

[MisterWeary]

I'm racing with the wagon and I know my time is gonna be crap but I don't mind, this week I'm just going to concede my position in order to use a car I've always wanted to have a go at 👍 But as Kyle said it's up to you MINI, just so you know though, "not submitting a time" vs. "submitting a potentially slower time" in theory would have no affect to the overall leaderboard scoring because the leaderboard only picks your 6 best results. Anyway, as long as you're having fun it doesn't matter whether you submit or not 👍

 

[Azuremen]

I'm using the 99. Tried out the Spec C, but guh, I dunno about it. Plus I prefer the coupes.

And Hugo, I don't understand why you have such little camber on the front wheels... would make more sense I would think to have more, as the car already understeers like a pig at times.

I'll give someone a cookie if they can get these to steer like an MR2 with throttle lift off. A nice good cookie!!!

Seriously though, I drive MR layouts too much I have concluded, as everything feels like a pig compared to them...

 

[STLbarcelona5]

So yeah... I've forgotten if/how it's possible to get rid of engine upgrades such as port polishing/engine balancing. If I can't figure that out, I'd have to buy another Spec C. because in order to get under 350hp I can't have the racing chip, so I have somewhere around 360hp, which is 20hp less than what seems to be possible.

So am I just completely missing some setting where I can get rid of either/or port polishing or balancing?

 

[KLR142]

So yeah... I've forgotten if/how it's possible to get rid of engine upgrades such as port polishing/engine balancing. If I can't figure that out, I'd have to buy another Spec C. because in order to get under 350hp I can't have the racing chip, so I have somewhere around 360hp, which is 20hp less than what seems to be possible.

So am I just completely missing some setting where I can get rid of either/or port polishing or balancing?

If you saved it right before you bought something that you know you can't do, then you're fine... Just reload. Or, if you have it on autosave, you're basically screwed. But yeah, if you haven't saved since you bought the car, or if you haven't saved after doing the port/polish, then you can just reload as well. If you have your settings set, you might want to write them down before you reload. Hopefully you haven't gotten to that point yet!!!

 

[GTrackd02]

ok switched fromthe STI prodrive to the RS lancer....
New splits...
T1 32.637
T2 1'17.525
I slowed down a bit more than i wanted to for the chicane.. but ohwell.. i have a couple of days to better my time..

 

[Super T]

So am I just completely missing some setting where I can get rid of either/or port polishing or balancing?

As far as I know those mods you're stuck with I'm afraid...In real life those kind of modifications require removal of metal from the cylinder head and engine internals so it's not the kind of stuff you can undo...I'm assuming it's the same in the game, once it's done it's done?

Anyway. I said I'd be back with better times.

T1 0'32.172
T2 1'16.614

I set myself a target a couple of days back that if I beat I would've been OK about submitting with. I've only gone and beaten that by a whole second already and theres still 40 odd hours before I usually submit.

I dunno, maybe another .3, well see?

Darren.

 

[KLR142]

Go for it Darren! 👍

 

[MisterWeary]

Board Updated

 

[AngelCreator]

I tried this again and I'm happy about the time's I got. Here they are.

T1-31:904(-.060)
T2-1:15:761(-.487)
Total-(-.587)

And here is the setup I used, I did get some idea's for Hugo Boss's setup.

Brakes 8/7
Springs 7.0/6.0
Ride height 130/125
Damper b 2/2
Damper rb 2/4
Camber 3.0/1.0
Toe 0/0
Stabs 2/4

Gears
1: 2.935
2: 2.170
3: 1.825
4: 1.520
5: 1.255
6: 1.040
Final: 4.000
Auto 1

LSD: 5/5/5 front 5/10/5 rear

VCD: 10
Aids: off

I think I will send in this time because I know is more time there but like last
week I just can't get a clean lap to get that time.

 

[Hugo Boss]

And Hugo, I don't understand why you have such little camber on the front wheels... would make more sense I would think to have more, as the car already understeers like a pig at times.

I didn't try more camber at the front now. I always like the rear to have more camber than the front. Maybe it works for this car, but mostly it increases the braking distance too much for my liking. Does it work for you?

 

[dylansan]

Thanks for the hint Darren, I almost overlooked it... Hahaha!
Everyone? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure you are NOT the only one using one of the older cars. And if you put any time at all into this competition you should submit. To show that you tried, and put forth the effort. You should be proud if you get to walk away with the title of the fastest non Spec C or whichever Mitsu is the fastest.

It's up to you. I've submitted laps in cars that I knew aren't the fastest out there that week, and I enjoy being the fastest in a car that's not the fastest. And I definitely enjoy beating people in a car that I know is faster than mine...

I'm racing with the wagon and I know my time is gonna be crap but I don't mind, this week I'm just going to concede my position in order to use a car I've always wanted to have a go at 👍 But as Kyle said it's up to you MINI, just so you know though, "not submitting a time" vs. "submitting a potentially slower time" in theory would have no affect to the overall leaderboard scoring because the leaderboard only picks your 6 best results. Anyway, as long as you're having fun it doesn't matter whether you submit or not 👍

Well, I guess I'll submit. I'm having so much fun this week I bought a bunch of Scoobies, and I plan on racing them arround different tracks long after this race is over.

Board Updated

What really convinced me is the fact that my times are not the slowest on the board yet. I still have a few "things" to do before I jump back into the race, but once I improve my times a bit more I'll actually post them for the first time.

 

[Super T]

Go for it Darren! 👍

I'm trying Kyle.

My problem at the moment seems to be the T3-finish. I've managed a stormer on my current lap and even though I can get a car length or two at T3 my ghost has got me nailed through that final chicane!

With a bit of luck I might just get that extra bit I wanted but only if can hold my nerve long enough to finish the lap?

@ Colby...I'll be ticking the last box in the poll this week for sure. 👍

EDIT: Almost forgot to mention that I've added some aids to my set up. I've put one on each of the under/oversteer aids. Could explain why I've chopped off so much time recently?

Darren.

 

[Metar]

With a bit of luck I might just get that extra bit I wanted but only if can hold my nerve long enough to finish the lap?

@ Colby...I'll be ticking the last box in the poll this week for sure. 👍

EDIT: Almost forgot to mention that I've added some aids to my set up. I've put one on each of the under/oversteer aids. Could explain why I've chopped off so much time recently?

Darren.

Darren, I owe you an apologie. My own memcard got erased (lightning, the first in a month!), so, after reformatting and reverting to the 2-weeks old Backup (no Mitzi MR there), I got the Spec C. Whoaa. The Evo might feel better. It might look better. It might be the better choice in terms of damage to my ego. But the Subie is quicker. Hands down, I'm just so much quicker in it, it's not worth getting and tuning an Evo. 522Nm of torque, 347HP of.. Horsepower, and that sound...
Plus, it's cheaper - you don't have to buy two power-mods, only a Semi-race exhaust. It's either that, or the Intercooler+Chip. Turbo+Chip gives 2Nm less torque.
Using Hugo's setup, with a few of my own adjustments.. My time is alright, but T1 wasn't the best, T2 had a bad corner or two - also lost a bit in the right-left chicane just before it - and the braking-point for the Pre-chicane hairpin was a tad early. I already improved T2 by 0.5, with a crap-T1 - so I expect that a D2 result will be there. I just love city-racing - even though I don't like that track.

And Kyle - the Subie is much more stable through the "Stairs".

x'xx.xxx
x'xx.xxx
(Censored, so I can still be friends with Steven )

Notes:
A) I just noticed a funny thing. Subie.
Sounds un-funny, right? It's just that Subie, if the S is pronounced as a Z (Which I do), it is the same as the hebrew word for the male organ.

B) If I could change anything on this track, it's the straight. First off, it's got that nasty turn, which is Juuust enough to pass it flat-out - and I lost quite a few laps when I didn't notice it. Second, I hate straights. A start-finish straight is fine with me - but a straight in the middle of the track, it's horrorible. I get that rush of adrenaline, I see my ghost 10 metres behind, I see the red light flashing, and then, boom. Either I brake too early, trying not to loose it, or I get all brave and overshoot the point.

 

[Azuremen]

I didn't try more camber at the front now. I always like the rear to have more camber than the front. Maybe it works for this car, but mostly it increases the braking distance too much for my liking. Does it work for you?

I do trail braking into the corners, so I am turning while doing part of my braking. That could be our preference for different cambers. I ALWAYS have more front camber than rear, but I also drive MR layouts alot more, so that probably has something to do with it as well.

The settings worked out okay, but I had to stiffen the rear sway and up the front camber to my liking.

 

[arora]

Second sesion of the day, I'm running a spec c 04' btw, similiar set to Hugo's except the rear springs are softer, like 6.2 and I jacked the rear up....

32.256
1.17.195

Not a big deal but I just looked at the leader board and my first spilts are listed, not these. And btw I'm ds2 most of the time but occasionaly use a force feedback wheel, the first one?

Anyway, wrs'rs.
Erik

 

[steven]

(Censored, so I can still be friends with Steven )...
Subie, if the S is pronounced as a Z (Which I do), it is the same as the hebrew word for the male organ.

metar, you'll always be friends with steven no matter what you say or do.
if you replace the c in pic with a k you get the same in dutch.

 

[errk]

I do trail braking into the corners, so I am turning while doing part of my braking.

Trail braking is using the brakes while accelerating out of a corner to help understeer usually.

 

[CRXnut]

I'm having so much fun ! Thanks Colby for picking this combo.
I never liked 4WD cars in GT4 much but after this I might give them another chance.
I have seen some alien like sector times but never on the same lap
Every time I see a good T2 split my hands start shaking and I mess up the bus stop exit, final chicane or both :-)

 

[KLR142]

Soo..... I managed to leave my keys IN The apartment last night, and have been locked out ever since. I was planning on getting lots of time in today to play, but nooooo. My roommate's gone to Germany for a while so I have no way to get into my place until tomorrow when my renter's office is open. HOW CRAPPY IS THAT?!?!?