GT4 WRS Week 91: "Time to Nurburg it up!"

KLR142
Lol, and, Jerome, YOU'RE KIDDING ME, RIGHT?!?!?!??
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I've had some family things come up that I've had to pitch in....don't ask......

And still I have yet to get a clean lap here, 6:07.1, I can now avoid the sand trap, lol but am losing a second to you guys between T6 and T9 and it may be the carousel as I haven't really nailed it, I may try it in 3rd to see if my exit speed is any better, but its guitar hero for now! wOOt!
EDIT - and now I'm thinking you're a better driver than I now Kyle, not only at just Capitan and the Ring but overall. You've been red hot lately dude, nice work!

Jerome
 
Which reminds me of a couple of corners where I wanted to ask...

  1. Last two corner in the series of esses at the start (both the left, and the right-left): Stay in 4th, move to 3rd?
  2. The first 'S'-turn, after the gentle right and left, where the lights indicate shifting to 3rd... Is 3rd neccesary?
  3. The Aremberg part (uphill, sweeping left, right, 240-degree left, hard right) - what gears, where to brake?
  4. That scary left-hander at the end of the speedy section: How much braking, or is lifting better?
  5. The long corner before the speedy section (Also featured in a licence-test): 3rd gear neccesary?
  6. The corner which ends the speedy section, just before the Karussel: 3rd, 2nd?
  7. Karrussel: Outside, inside, very-inside, or try to 'hop out' near the end?
  8. Kleine Karrussel: Stay in 4th or down to 3rd?
  9. The last three corners (A.k.a T13): 3rd, or shift to 2nd?
 
I've just now seen a 2'00.9 T3 but i wasnt able to carry it the rest of the lap. my thumb is killing me! lol

[EDIT]
make that a 1'59.2 also threw it before the end of the lap.

[EDIT2]
ok new splits. the run was clean up to T9 but went dirty after. Oh well, i now have a good ghost to chase

T3: 1.58.718
T6: 4'13.118
T9: 6'23.520
 
  1. Stay in 4th,
  2. No
  3. ???
  4. lifting is better
  5. I think yes
  6. 3rd
  7. Karrussel: From Outside to very-inside, half throttle through, full throttle out
  8. Kleine Karrussel: Stay in 4th
  9. 3rd
 
#3 - lift, turn left, speed up, brake, downshift to 4th, turn right, accelerate, brake, dowhnshift to 3rd, turn left then right while accelerating
 
now this combo is soooo funny
so my first splits:
t3: 1.56.446
t6: 4.06.371
t9: 6.09.877

this run was not so clean, there is many places and tures in which i can run better...
 
Just done 3 laps, really nice drive 👍

Lap 3 splits were ..

T3 - 1'58.165
T6 - 4'10.105
T9 - 6'16.146

Div2 - DS2


Obviously loads of time left, I think I'm using 3rd gear too much in the corners.
 
Just thought I'd post THIS before we get too far into the week. I'll try to post some splits later tonight... It's either then or probably never.
 
Well it looks like I still have alot of work to do before I am good at
updating the splits(I'm sorry if I make your work harder Gingiba:nervous:).

Edit:
Well here is me tring again(hope it's right:nervous:).

LeaderBoard

Also I did try this again, had something like a 6:08:8xx at T9.
 
Had the urge to run this combo again. I am happy with my lap though I can still see a lot more time to gain, especially through T1 and T3...

T3 - 1'55.573 (-.186)
T6 - 4'04.345 (-.335)
T9 - 6'06.748 (-.973)
Total - (-1.856)
 
New splits, totaly clean this time.

T3: 1'58.252
T6: 4'12.236
T9: 6'20.283

i'm two seconds off my goal time this week. i think i can do it.
 
MisterWeary
I know Brad will groan[...]
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That I will, I mean, just because you're retiring doesn't give you an excuse for poor grammar!

MisterWeary
As long as you don't touch a wall or put more than 2 tyres in the grass, you're lap is good 👍 This means that cobbled areas and all non-grass areas are okay.
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Running this combo now. I'd rather crush my head in a vice, but I'll see what I can come up with.
 
STLbarcelona5
Just thought I'd post THIS before we get too far into the week. I'll try to post some splits later tonight... It's either then or probably never.
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thanks for posting that great 'ring paper. i knew it but never got beyond looking at the pictures. if someone has problems reading the german i might help a bit, tho tobi or silent would off course do a much better job at that.
 
I'm using a DS2, not a DFP like the leaderboard says.

1'55.716 (seen .142)
4'04.099
6'05.532 (seen 6'04's)
 
Gingiba
Which reminds me of a couple of corners where I wanted to ask...

  1. Last two corner in the series of esses at the start (both the left, and the right-left): Stay in 4th, move to 3rd?
  2. The first 'S'-turn, after the gentle right and left, where the lights indicate shifting to 3rd... Is 3rd neccesary?
  3. The Aremberg part (uphill, sweeping left, right, 240-degree left, hard right) - what gears, where to brake?
  4. That scary left-hander at the end of the speedy section: How much braking, or is lifting better?
  5. The long corner before the speedy section (Also featured in a licence-test): 3rd gear neccesary?
  6. The corner which ends the speedy section, just before the Karussel: 3rd, 2nd?
  7. Karrussel: Outside, inside, very-inside, or try to 'hop out' near the end?
  8. Kleine Karrussel: Stay in 4th or down to 3rd?
  9. The last three corners (A.k.a T13): 3rd, or shift to 2nd?
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  1. I shift to 3rd for the last left, gives me more punch out of the turn since I'm sliding it through there.
  2. 4th is better.
  3. Just before the uphill left, I dab the brake, shift to 5th and accelerate through the turn and towards the right. Brake hard for the right on the middle left of the track and hug the curb. Accelerate asap until braking for the hard left. Get all braking done before turn, coast a little bit and then accelerate in 3rd through most of the left and the entire right. Line is very important and you want to be able to accelerate from the left all the way through the right. Use a lot of curbing on the right. One of the hardest sections on the entire track to get right. My current best clean lap is about 3-4 tenths slower through here than I can actually go. So even if you don't hit it spot on, continue with the lap as long as it wasn't too bad.
  4. Haven't perfected this turn yet. I've tried tapping the brake and coasting with about the same results.
  5. Definitely. You need to set up wide and accelerate through the corner to get a good run onto the long straights that follow.
  6. I brake about where my rear bumper would be even with the start of the rumble strip on the left. Stay as left as possible and make sure you turn in at the proper time to apex at the edge of the curb and accelerate full out of the turn.
  7. I brake and shift to 3rd, then 2nd about where my rear bumper would be lined up with the last shadow on the right. I drop in about 1 car length after the cement starts, tap the gas/brake to keep the mph close to 50mph. It will fluctuate from 46-50mph. About 2/3's way through the turn and on the banking, you should be able to floor it from this speed. Once you feel it holding you in and you are going to make it, shift to 3rd (52mph in my replay) and the banking will hold you in and sling shot you out if you do it right. My left front tire is usually at the outside edge where the cement ends, so I do come out of the banking just before the end.
  8. I shift to 3rd as I feel I have better acceleration out of the turn. I don't recall trying 4th all the way through that turn. Maybe I'm losing time there?
  9. 3rd
 
Just spent 1 and a half hours trying to put a whole lap together. Smashed my old time, but after inspecting the lap I found it to be dirty. Too frustrated to try and get a fast clean lap tonight, will try again tomorrow though.

I thought I would post my dirty sector times anyway (don't add these to the leader board, thanks)

T3 - 1'55.354
T6 - 4'03.261
T9 - 6'04.713

I think I will be able to match these splits again on a clean lap, though it may take a while.
 
tuff240
Nice splits, dirty or not. D1 material for sure. 👍
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Thanks. I've always liked racing at Nurburgring, I guess all the laps I have raced on there are started to pay off.
 
For those of you wanting to know the correct line, here is a real life video up until almost T8 where the video camera comes off of it's mount due to all the shaking about up to that point. Video is in an M5 with the ringmeister herself.
Herself you say? YES, the ringmeister is a woman! Sabine Schmitz to be exact. She drives a taxi around Nurb for a living and is an accomplished race driver. She thinks she has circled the the track almost 20,000 times!
Enjoy: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2676138596839526717&q="sabine+schmitz"

Bit of trivia... Who originally gave it the name "The Green Hell"?
 
After a couple of hours last night figuring out what the car likes I ended with this clean lap:

T3 1:57:494
T6 4:07:171
T9 6:11:462

The one observation that I will throw out is that not scrubbing off speed on high speed corners is critical. The high speed right sweeper after the bridge at the beginning of the lap, for example, can easily be taken flat but the key is to do it with no sliding - for me the difference is a full second between a slightly tail out attitude and one where it tracks perfectly neutral with no sliding.
 
i just hit my goal time on a slightly dirty lap. if i remember T3 was a 1'57 something. T6 was a 4'10 i think and T9 was a 6'19 something. nothing new for the leaderboard though. time to get back and nail me a clean lap. it's getting to the point that driving this track is becoming something that almost resembles easy. :)

heres hoping i manage to pull a "nightmarehunter" this week. lol ; )

[EDIT]
OK new splits. these are clean up to T9 so here we go. this is what i am now trying to duplicate.

T3: 1'57.735
T6: 4'09.913
T9: 6'17.163
 
New splits from me

T1: 1'56.824
T3: 4'06.323
T9: 6'08.415

T1 & T3 are slower than my previous best, but T9 is 1.5 seconds faster!

And I'm using a DFP.
 
Week 89 Results, I can't find them, did I miss something?

Jerome
 
Tried again today, here's what I got.

T3-1:56:306
T6-4:04:680
T9-6:07:502

And about 3sec's off my total time as well. Still time left in it.
 
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