GT5 Master Track List (NOT a wishlist)

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confirmed tracks so far - 25 in total (7 from GT vision trailer) not sure what to call the track in the ferrari video

I'm guessing the last ones are from vision GT?
 
Yes they are, its nothing we dont already know (or should).
Its missing that mountain road from the FT-86 trailer btw.
And its not "Tokyo Night", its Special Stage Route 5.
 
Yadda yadda yadda, the point of this was to see a full list of tracks (ok i missed 1) in comparrison. There is a great variety and, to be truthful, i'd be pretty happy with that track list. All it really needs is another nascar track and a couple more rally stages and i think that would be a job very well done
 
There's no confirmation the Vision GT tracks will be in GT5, Vision GT was a HD port of GT4 and had little to do with GT5.
 
There's no confirmation the Vision GT tracks will be in GT5, Vision GT was a HD port of GT4 and had little to do with GT5.

Is there any point in PD not putting the GT vision tracks in? Afterall, Nurburgring is just a HD version of the GT4 version! (please be my guest to prove otherwise)
 
Is there any point in PD not putting the GT vision tracks in? Afterall, Nurburgring is just a HD version of the GT4 version! (please be my guest to prove otherwise)

Because this is the confirmed track list. If you have a source saying that GT vision tracks will be included then awesome.
 
Nurburgring is just a HD version of the GT4 version! (please be my guest to prove otherwise)
Just look at the textures, if you only see a resolution update you need new glasses.
And the background has tons more details.
Is there any point in PD not putting the GT vision tracks in?
Its no proof for both, they could be, they dont have too.

You also forgot Curcuit de la Sarthe (Le Mans) which we have seen in early GTHD and GT5 builds.
 
Yamauchi- There's 20 locations and there's going to be 70 different types of courses that are going to be in those locations.

1. Circuit de la Sarthe I (chicanes)
2. Circuit de la Sarthe II (no chicanes)
3. Fuji Speedway 90's
4. Fuji Speedway 80's
5. Fuji Speedway 2005
6. Fuji Speedway 2005 GT
7. Infineon Raceway - Sports Car Course
8. Infineon Raceway - Stock Car Course
9. Laguna Seca Raceway
10. Nurburgring Nordschleife
11. Suzuka Circuit
12. Suzuka Circuit East Course
13. Suzuka Circuit West Course
14. Twin Ring Motegi - Road Course
15. Twin Ring Motegi - East Short Course
16. Twin Ring Motegi - West Short Course
17. Twin Ring Motegi - Super Speedway
18. Tsukuba Circuit
19. Apricot Hill Raceway
20. Autumn Ring
21. Autumn_Ring_Mini
22. Deep Forest Raceway
23. El Capitan
24. Grand Valley East Section
25. Grand Valley Speedway
26. High-speed Ring
27. Midfield Raceway
28. Trial Mountain Circuit
29. Grindlewald
30. Red Rock Valley Speedway
31. Citta di Aria
32. Clubman Stage Route 5
33. Costa di Amalfi
34. Côte d'Azur
35. George V Paris
36. Hong Kong
37. New York
38. Opera Paris
39. Seattle Circuit
40. Seoul Central
41. Tokyo Route 246
42. Special Stage Route 5
43. Rome
44. Madrid
45. Test Course
46. Beginner's Course
47. Motorland
48. Cathedral Rocks Trail I
50. Cathedral Rocks Trail II
51. Chamonix
52. Grand Canyon
53. Ice Arena
54. Swiss Alps
55. Tahiti Maze
56. Las Vegas Drag Strip
57. Silverstone
58. Monza
59. Eiger Norwand
60. Indianapolis Motor Speedway
61. Indianapolis GP Circuit
62. Daytona International Speedway
63.Daytona International Superspeedway Road Course
64. Top Gear Test Track
65. Top Gear Drag Strip
66. London Street Circuit
67. Spa
67. Smokey Mountain
68. Pikes Peak Hill Climb
69. Watkins Glen International
70. Texas Motor Speedway

Speculated tracks (my own verison).
 
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Yamauchi- There's 20 locations and there's going to be 70 different types of courses that are going to be in those locations.

1. Circuit de la Sarthe I (chicanes)
2. Circuit de la Sarthe II (no chicanes)
3. Fuji Speedway 90's
4. Fuji Speedway 80's
5. Fuji Speedway 2005
6. Fuji Speedway 2005 GT
7. Infineon Raceway - Sports Car Course
8. Infineon Raceway - Stock Car Course
9. Laguna Seca Raceway
10. Nurburgring Nordschleife
11. Suzuka Circuit
12. Suzuka Circuit East Course
13. Suzuka Circuit West Course
14. Twin Ring Motegi - Road Course
15. Twin Ring Motegi - East Short Course
16. Twin Ring Motegi - West Short Course
17. Twin Ring Motegi - Super Speedway
18. Tsukuba Circuit
19. Apricot Hill Raceway
20. Autumn Ring
21. Autumn_Ring_Mini
22. Deep Forest Raceway
23. El Capitan
24. Grand Valley East Section
25. Grand Valley Speedway
26. High-speed Ring
27. Midfield Raceway
28. Trial Mountain Circuit
29. Grindlewald
30. Red Rock Valley Speedway
31. Citta di Aria
32. Clubman Stage Route 5
33. Costa di Amalfi
34. Côte d'Azur
35. George V Paris
36. Hong Kong
37. New York
38. Opera Paris
39. Seattle Circuit
40. Seoul Central
41. Tokyo Route 246
42. Special Stage Route 5
43. Rome
44. Madrid
45. Test Course
46. Beginner's Course
47. Motorland
48. Cathedral Rocks Trail I
50. Cathedral Rocks Trail II
51. Chamonix
52. Grand Canyon
53. Ice Arena
54. Swiss Alps
55. Tahiti Maze
56. Las Vegas Drag Strip
57. Silverstone
58. Monza
59. Eiger Norwand
60. Indianapolis Motor Speedway
61. Indianapolis GP Circuit
62. Daytona International Speedway
63.Daytona International Superspeedway Road Course
64. Top Gear Test Track
65. Top Gear Drag Strip
66. London Street Circuit
67. Spa
67. Smokey Mountain
68. Pikes Peak Hill Climb
69. Watkins Glen International
70. Texas Motor Speedway

Speculated tracks.

LINK please!!!!
 
PD origially have hi res images for all GT4 tracks, they are just scaled down to fit on ps3. The GT vision trailer shows this, the textures are more detailed than in GT4 and the resolution is higher. To prove this, one user had the same screenshots for nurburgring in GT4 and GT5 you could tell that the trees had exactly the same textures, but the GT5 version had a higher resultion, therefore greater detail
 
You can see a lot more polygons on the background objects in GT5s Ring (like the buildings from the GP track) and the textures arent just the same with a higher resolution.

Btw. you can play the NTSC version from GT4 in 1080i, which is HD.
 
Here's an overview of the number of circuits and variations from everything we know so far.

Real Circuits:
1. Suzuka (3 variations)
-full
-east
-west
2. Fuji (2 variations)
-F
-GT
3. Daytona (2 variations)
-oval
-road course
4. Indianapolis (2 variations)
-oval
-road course
5. Top Gear (2 variations)
-test track
-drag strip
6. La Sarthe (2 variations)
-chicanes
-no chicanes
7. Nurburgring (3 variations)
-full combined course
-Nordschleife
-GP Strecke
8. Tsukuba (1 variation)

Real Location, custom circuit design:
9. London (4 variations)
-long forward
-long reverse
-short forward
-short reverse
10. Madrid (2 variations)
-forward
-reverse
11. Rome (2 variations)
-forward
-reverse
12. Bern (2 variations)
-forward
-reverse
13. Eiger Nordwand (4 variations)
-long forward
-long reverse
-short forward
-short reverse
14. Tokyo R246 (2 variations)
-forward
-reverse
15. Tuscany (3 variations)
-road course forward
-road course reverse
-dirt rally
16. Stelvio Pass (2 variations)
-forward
-reverse
17. Ferrari California track (2 variations)
-forward
-reverse

GT tracks:
18. High Speed Ring (2 variations)
-forward
-reverse
19. SSR5/night track (2 variations)
-forward
-reverse

19 tracks, 44 variations

Note: long Eiger and London courses are pretty much confirmed so I included them (I believe both of them, or at least one, are called "short" in the Japanese version of Prologue, and there are areas for them to extend and return back onto the short circuits). Also, we've seen the pits and main straight grandstands of the GP Strecke Nurburgring so I included it as well, plus I made some assumptions where some tracks might have a reverse variation as well, although who knows, maybe some of those won't. Stelvio Pass we've seen in the Toyota FT-86 video and the one under it we saw in the Ferrari California video back a while ago.


There's no way there's only a few more tracks to be confirmed since you'd need about 20-30 variations between them which is just ridiculous, especially since the average variation per track on this list is 2 or so. Keep in mind this list doesn't even include so many traditional GT courses like Trial Mountain, Deep Forest, Grand Valley, etc., as well as traditional real courses like Laguna Seca which are very likely to be in.

There must be many tracks to be confirmed, and if you're worried since we haven't seen much at all yet, well, how many cars have we seen? Other than Prologue we've seen probably 30 or so cars at best. Hell, even if you include Prologue we've still only seen around 100. What about the other 900? Are they not going to be in the game? Of course they are, but we just haven't seen them yet.

It's the exact same thing with the tracks IMO. PD is being very secretive about GT5 for some reason and we really don't know much at all yet. Also keep in mind how Kaz said the E3 trailer was such a tiny part of the game and that it was so massive he could hardly explain it. We really haven't seen much else since then so there has to be a lot more for us to see between now and the release, including tracks, cars, and features like a livery editor, etc.

IMO 20 locations means literally locations, as in Japan for example (which includes Suzuka, Fuji, Tsukuba, and maybe GT street circuits like R246). Therefore we have a lot more circuits to see and a few very likely ones would be Spa, Monza, Laguna Seca, etc.
 
Here's an overview of the number of circuits and variations from everything we know so far.

Real Circuits:
1. Suzuka (3 variations)
-full
-east
-west
2. Fuji (2 variations)
-F
-GT
3. Daytona (2 variations)
-oval
-road course
4. Indianapolis (2 variations)
-oval
-road course
5. Top Gear (2 variations)
-test track
-drag strip
6. La Sarthe (2 variations)
-chicanes
-no chicanes
7. Nurburgring (3 variations)
-full combined course
-Nordschleife
-GP Strecke
8. Tsukuba (1 variation)

Real Location, custom circuit design:
9. London (4 variations)
-long forward
-long reverse
-short forward
-short reverse
10. Madrid (2 variations)
-forward
-reverse
11. Rome (2 variations)
-forward
-reverse
12. Berne (2 variations)
-forward
-reverse
13. Eiger Nordwand (4 variations)
-long forward
-long reverse
-short forward
-short reverse
14. Tokyo R246 (2 variations)
-forward
-reverse
15. Tuscany (3 variations)
-road course forward
-road course reverse
-dirt rally
16. Stelvio Pass (2 variations)
-forward
-reverse
17. Ferrari California track (2 variations)
-forward
-reverse

GT tracks:
18. High Speed Ring (2 variations)
-forward
-reverse
19. SSR5/night track (2 variations)
-forward
-reverse

19 tracks, 44 variations

Note: long Eiger and London courses are pretty much confirmed so I included them (I believe both of them, or at least one, are called "short" in the Japanese version of Prologue, and there are areas for them to extend and return back onto the short circuits. Also, we've seen the pits and main straight grandstands of the GP Strecke Nurburgring so I included it as well). Plus I made some assumptions where some tracks might have a reverse variation as well, although who knows, maybe some of those won't.


There's no way there's only a few more tracks to be confirmed since you'd need about 20-30 variations between them which is just ridiculous, especially since the average variation per track on this list is 2 or so. Keep in mind this list doesn't even include so many traditional GT courses like Trial Mountain, Deep Forest, Grand Valley, etc., as well as traditional real courses like Laguna Seca which are very likely to be in.

There must be many tracks to be confirmed, and if you're worried since we haven't seen much at all yet, well, how many cars have we seen? Other than Prologue we've seen probably 30 or so cars at best. Hell, even if you include Prologue we've still only seen around 100. What about the other 900? Are they not going to be in the game? Of course they are, but we just haven't seen them yet.

It's the exact same thing with the tracks IMO. PD is being very secretive about GT5 for some reason and we really don't know much at all yet. Also keep in mind how Kaz said the E3 trailer was such a tiny part of the game and that it was so massive he could hardly explain it. We really haven't seen much else since then so there has to be a lot more for us to see between now and the release, including tracks, cars, and features like a livery editor, etc.

IMO 20 locations means literally locations, as in Japan for example (which includes Suzuka, Fuji, Tsukuba, and maybe GT street circuits like R246).
Therefore we have a lot more circuits to see and a few very likely ones would be Spa, Monza, Laguna Seca, etc.



Yes. You're a smart man, a good poster here. And this is a good post! Probably took you some time to type it all out, no?
 
There's no way there's only a few more tracks to be confirmed since you'd need about 20-30 variations between them which is just ridiculous, especially since the average variation per track on this list is 2 or so. Keep in mind this list doesn't even include so many traditional GT courses like Trial Mountain, Deep Forest, Grand Valley, etc., as well as traditional real courses like Laguna Seca which are very likely to be in.

There must be many tracks to be confirmed, and if you're worried since we haven't seen much at all yet, well, how many cars have we seen? Other than Prologue we've seen probably 30 or so cars at best. Hell, even if you include Prologue we've still only seen around 100. What about the other 900? Are they not going to be in the game? Of course they are, but we just haven't seen them yet.

It's the exact same thing with the tracks IMO. PD is being very secretive about GT5 for some reason and we really don't know much at all yet. Also keep in mind how Kaz said the E3 trailer was such a tiny part of the game and that it was so massive he could hardly explain it. We really haven't seen much else since then so there has to be a lot more for us to see between now and the release, including tracks, cars, and features like a livery editor, etc.

IMO 20 locations means literally locations, as in Japan for example (which includes Suzuka, Fuji, Tsukuba, and maybe GT street circuits like R246). Therefore we have a lot more circuits to see and a few very likely ones would be Spa, Monza, Laguna Seca, etc.
I want you to be right, I really really do, but I'm doubtfull. We've seen the 20/70 thing put across in different ways and I think people are just hearing what they want to hear when they see it as 70 tracks. Plus something to bear in mind and it's something I think could be key to the number of track variations in the game, the rally tracks. There may only be two or three locations, but I'd hazzard a guess that each rally location has 6 or 7 stages that can be raced forwards or backwards. That would be a huge boost to the number of track varations in the game. The locations isn't specific either, another givaway imo that it's 1 location = 1 track location and not 1 country. Officially it's 20+ locations so we might get 23 or 24 track locations. On top of that, a Sony employee was quoted as saying 1 location = 1 track and used Daytona as an example, Daytona = 1 location, the Speedway and ifield track are 2 variations. I think it's clear that the car count has been the priority for GT5 and to get a decent though not outstanding number of tracks in along with them would still be an accomplishment. Between the start of developemnt for Forza 2 and Forza 3's launch Turn 10 only managed to model 20 odd different tracks and that's a similar time scale to how long PD have taken with GT5.
 
About the 20 locations thing. I think it's going to be the same as GT PSP. The box and all advertisements said 35 tracks and 60 layouts. Once you play the game it's actually 45 tracks with 80 or so variations. Why would they make GT5 any different?
 
Bern is the street circuit in the E3 trailer with the clock tower.
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And we've seen cars drag racing each other on what looks like the Top Gear test track.
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Why do you think theyre driving a drag race?
And i doubt the scenery from Bern can be used as a racetrack, theres even a well in the middle of the road and it would be way too narrow for a 16 car grid as seen in the trailer.
 
Why do you think theyre driving a drag race

Cause they're racing heads up on a straight track which is separated by lights in the middle. We also saw an airplane driving behind them in a more recent trailer. I wouldn't imagine it would be able to follow them around a proper circuit. The test track is a figure 8 so I wouldn't be surprised if you can't actually race with multiple cars on it.

And i doubt the scenery from Bern can be used as a racetrack, theres even a well in the middle of the road and it would be way too narrow for a 16 car grid as seen in the trailer.

There's 12 cars in the trailer, just like London and Eiger. And what do you think the cars are doing there? Lining up for a photo session? Even if you're right I think it's quite ridiculous for PD to set up that scene and not have it as a race track. The cars line up on the grid and start reving their engines as the camera moves to the front, implying a race is just about to begin.
 
And what do you think the cars are doing there?
"Posing" for the trailer, we also had cars driving through the scenery from Bad Neuenahr/Ahrweiler in GT5P, we could never drive there though and even if there are "only" 12 cars, it would still be too much (especially with a well or whatever it is in the middle of the road...). I still dont see a drag race, i see a two cars racing using the whole width of the track and that plane from the AGS trailer supports that, its just another "posing" scene for the trailer.
 
Personally, I have a hard time believing that GT5 will have less tracks than GT4. To me that's just absurd considering how long this game's been in production.

70 seems spot on, though.
 
"Posing" for the trailer, we also had cars driving through the scenery from Bad Neuenahr/Ahrweiler in GT5P, we could never drive there though

That hardly compares at all. It was only single cars slowly cruising through a constantly changing environment. Cars getting together and lining up a racing grid is completely different.

I still dont see a drag race, i see a two cars racing using the whole width of the track and that plane from the AGS trailer supports that, its just another "posing" scene for the trailer

Except that the cars are on complete opposite sides in their own respective lanes which are also separated. I don't know many racing tracks that are like that. Obviously we don't know anything and there's assumptions you have to make and that's what I did. If you don't think it's a drag strip then that's fine. I never said it was confirmed, but it does appear to be implied. And either way, it's not even the point of my post. In fact it even helps it since it would be one less variation, and two less as well for Bern, if they weren't actual tracks.
 
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