GT5 might be lame
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Well that really depends on what you would call "lame". I really don't consider GT3 lame (and I'm sure a lot would agree..) And remember, the disc is the storage media, so whether or not the game plays better, will still depend on the programming and the hardware itself. The media will only determine the amount of content, and possibly the size of the textures. But the storage capability of blue ray discs should be enough. Basing your assumption that blue-ray, being a new technology, is going to make the game lame may not be relevant. The developers are still working off of the hard-ware. Besides, there's always the hard-drive for extra content. PD can always decide to have 2 discs for the game, with extra content being installed to the HD if needed.
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GT3 was imo better than GT4, in terms of final product meeting expectation, and I found it's structure far better than GT4's as well. The fact it was first the first DVD had nothing to do with the game being good or not though.
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But compared to GT2, other than the graphics, it sucked!
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I can't see the game being on a different type of disc making any difference to the quality of the final product at all... the implication is that Polyphony Digital would knowingly release a substandard game because they hadn't bothered to suss out how to make the most of the new format... I'm not sure that that is (or was) the case - infact, I'm pretty convinved that PD have gone out of their way to bring us the best quality games that they are capable of at the time...
I think it is more likely that the first PS3 release of a Gran Turismo series game will not infact be GT5, but an intermediate title - basically GT4 with bells on, and that we will probably have to wait quite some time for a fully new title such as GT5... and I doubt that by any stretch of the imagination that it will be 'lame'.
I think it is more likely that the first PS3 release of a Gran Turismo series game will not infact be GT5, but an intermediate title - basically GT4 with bells on, and that we will probably have to wait quite some time for a fully new title such as GT5... and I doubt that by any stretch of the imagination that it will be 'lame'.
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I do agree that GT2 is better than GT3 in some ways. But I still wouldn't call GT3 lame.
Then again, you'd be comparing a CD based game to a DVD based game. Which just goes to show that the media is irrelevant to the quality of the product. And like I said, the game itself can be split into 2 discs if needed, as is the case of GT2.👍
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Imo GT3 was arguably the best in the series, GT2 had content and soul but it was full of bugs and I didn't like the single race layout all but 4 events in the game had. Imo the actual gameplay of GT3 was the best, I was kind of hoping GT4 would merge GT3's gameplay with GT2's content, but it didn't. The physics were better in GT4, but the game just lost something that held me to it. Remember, quantity does not equal quality.
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Of course GT5 might be lame. It might be bought by Microsoft and released as a Croquet Simulator. It might be pretty much anything.
I'm not seeing an awful lot of "point" here...
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I can't find any either...
You can't say "ohhh GT5 is going to be lame because it'll be the first one on the blue ray disc format..." is like if you're saying that PS2 was worse than PS1 when it came out...of course there are going to be games that exceeds GT5 features later in time, that's just the way it is.
Please don't say that GT5 will be better if it stays in PS2 format. That's just Naive.
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You can't say "ohhh GT5 is going to be lame because it'll be the first one on the blue ray disc format..." is like if you're saying that PS2 was worse than PS1 when it came out...of course there are going to be games that exceeds GT5 features later in time, that's just the way it is.
Please don't say that GT5 will be better if it stays in PS2 format. That's just Naive.
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GT3 is the best entry in the Gran Turismo series. The disc format has nothing to do with how good a game is.
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GT4 was already too much for the PS2 to handle...PD were very foolish to put so much work into graphics and features that would inevitably tax the PS2's capabilities and leave the player with a game that looks and feels unfinished.
If they released GT5 for the PS2 instead of the PS3, they would only prove to the world that they have absolutely no common sense whatsoever.
Replace "might be" with "is," and I'll agree.
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I know you said MAY be lame, but do you really want to go on the basis that this game which isn't even released yet is going to be the biggest disappointment since GT2, then congratulations- you ruined your own interest in an unreleased game. Are you sure you really want to do this? Don't forget that GT3 was a rushed effort. I was happy with GT4 even if the rest of the gaming public-at-large thought it was a pure disappointment. I want to believe that PD has learned their lesson from the GT2 -> GT3 transistion. I think PD should take their time and not do anything foolish in making GT5. It's been said that the PS3 is likely easier to program with. I'm not a game developer, so I can't say that I know the difference between programming with the PS2 and the PS3. PD just needs to take their time and get as much content in the game as possible. But don't go around saying that the game will be a prettier version of GT3 with all the gaps and failed executions of GT2 and GT3. All I can say is- fear not. Don't judge the proverbial book by its cover.
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OT-> What!? GT3 is the best? Baloney! Well, I don't see GT3 is lame or what, but GT2 and GT4 ranks far higher on my opinion.
BT-> I hope PD better not make GT5 lame (or another GT3) when it comes out. Because I don't want to see Forza win over this battle. (:
BT-> I hope PD better not make GT5 lame (or another GT3) when it comes out. Because I don't want to see Forza win over this battle. (:
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I can... It's called, A job.
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Well........ to be picky, the first DVDs were mastered rather poorly because the mpeg2 compression scheme was rather lousy, and with a small format like DVD it still is. You must master a DVD carefully to smooth out most of the compression artifacts, and in this increasingly hi def world, that's harder to do. Of course this is another subject entirely.Wow, that's some great logic there.
That's like saying the first movie on DVD was weak just because it was the first movie on DVD.
Giving Polyphony access to bleeding edge technology with immense horsepower with Cell, RSX and the architecture of the PS3, huge capacity of Blu-ray, and high definition output for video and audio... I guess our poster thinks that the game engine will be the same one used for the outdated PS2 with its skimpy ram and obsolete CPU.
Yeah, right.
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No argument here. But that didn't make the movie itself better or worse.
Sorry, John, but that's way off the mark. We dissenters are a vocal minority.
Everyone and their brother thinks GT4 is the greatest and most-realistic driving simulator of all time, and the next game is set to take its place...all PD needs to do is produce a box with the words "GRAN TURISMO 5" on the cover and the game will be a huge success...even if there's nothing but a piece of doggie doo inside.
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No, but the movie itself was done when it was put on DVD. Polyphony still has to make the "movie".
I do get this guys point. He's saying that GT5 might be lame, cause it is Polyphonys first Gran Turismo on a new platform. They still have to learn how to use it efficiently. Or let's put it like this: when they make GT6 for the PS3, it will be easier for them, cause they'll have made lots of experiences with programming the thing, and therefor can concentrate on the content of the new game, rather than concentrating on how to program it. You can conclude that GT6 will be better than GT5 for that reason.
However, some people say that GT4 is not better than GT3. This has different reasons though, given enough time, I think GT4 could have been better. I don't know how much of that would be down to having more experience with the PS2, but the thought is not totally off.
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I'd have to agree with live4speed. In my little opinion (eheh) GT3A Spec was the best in the series. And although i woudlnt say GT4 was remotlye lame, i would say that i'm very happy to have a great game... and then get "more of that action". So i'd never knock GT4 for that. Just woudl have preffered them to call it GT3.5
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what about those to young for a well payed job
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Well paid job or not, most people can save £400 up, it's not an hoorendous ammoun of money, I pay more than that each year just for my car insurance, I pay well over £400 a month on bills and the house. When I was living with my parents and only an apprentice I earnt maybe £600 per month, I was still able to buty a £300 PS2 easy enough, saving the extra £100 wouldn't have been too much trouble if it cost that much and I wanted it.
as for kids in school and such, did they pay for thier PS2's or XB's? I doubt it. The bottom line is, the PS3 is cheaper in the long run than the XB360, especially if you want the HD DVD addon for the 360. 1 years live Goldmembership for the XB360 is £25, say you have it for 5 years that's £125 to play games online, that alone puts the premiun XB360 right level with the 60gb PS3, only the XB360 doesn't have HDMI, it only has a DVD drive, (the HD DVD is $200 more) and it's HDD is 40gb smaller. The PS3 is a very good deal when you look into it deeper.
What you save on the initial price of the 360 MS make back in other ways, ie stupidly expensive control pads and then you have to buy a specail pack seperately to charge the pads.
I have an XB360 by the way.
as for kids in school and such, did they pay for thier PS2's or XB's? I doubt it. The bottom line is, the PS3 is cheaper in the long run than the XB360, especially if you want the HD DVD addon for the 360. 1 years live Goldmembership for the XB360 is £25, say you have it for 5 years that's £125 to play games online, that alone puts the premiun XB360 right level with the 60gb PS3, only the XB360 doesn't have HDMI, it only has a DVD drive, (the HD DVD is $200 more) and it's HDD is 40gb smaller. The PS3 is a very good deal when you look into it deeper.
What you save on the initial price of the 360 MS make back in other ways, ie stupidly expensive control pads and then you have to buy a specail pack seperately to charge the pads.
I have an XB360 by the way.
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Uh, correct me if I'm wrong. But is there some form of legislation that says you have a right to a PS3? You could make the same claim to BMW saying that "I'm too young to make enough money for a 3 series. Lower the price please" Not going to happen.
The average age for American gamers is about 30. Most of them have decent sources of income so getting a PS3 isn't going to be a major problem. Just like the rise in gas prices. Annoying, but not life changing.
