GT5 to include engine swaps (across manufactures)

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The exclusive PlayStation 3 title is a web browser which you can buy parts for your car. Think of engines, exhaust valves and other similar components. These components can in each car, so if you have a Ferrari, you can also swap an Audi engine. You will have the full freedom to your car to adapt to your own wishes and that the prices of the same components as in real life. If you get the feeling like you are buying genuine parts for your ultimate race car you can buy with the money which you have earned with racing in the game.
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Source: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ps3-sense.nl%2F2009%2F06%2Fnieuwe-details-van-gran-turismo-5%2F&sl=nl&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1

What interests me here is the "Full freedom" for customization. The translation is a bit hazy, but it might be possible for GT5 to allow engine switching. It's pretty vague at this point. The translation says "...if you have a Ferrari, you can also stop an Audi engine." In the context of the sentence, full customization and detailing is being described, and it doesn't appear to be talking about Ferraris stopping Audis. It's more like Ferraris sporting Audi engines.

A very interesting feature. If you could switch engines, then it presents many variables to the game. For instance, the GT-R Skyline would lose its 4WD power advantage since you could stuff the engine into a lighter body. Speaking of stuffing engines, I'm also wondering about the implementation of engine bay size limits, or if "full customization" holds true and you can stuff anything under your hood.
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This reminds me of the old days of the old GT3 hybrid scene!
 
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But , it could be possible. Engine Swaps with all cars .. not just sticking to same car company, it would add so much fun!
 
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Dazzla
Yeah, your an excellent help. :rolleyes:
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All thread have been closed about this. Reason was because not enough proof that this is OFFICIAL say from PD. But could be possible. Even tho it't not official, we need a thread like this alive.
 
-> So meaning to say that I can install a Ferrari V12 from the 599 GTB into my dinky S2000? Hardware engine fitting issues will arise and would not be 'realistic' at all. :dunce:
 
Veyron engine in a cappuccino? Hope they make it realistic. Though a K20a swap into an elise would be great to do :D
 
Sorry guys... I don't agree... GT Series it's about "real world", "real driving simulator", and this engine changes are not that!👎

You can not compare any race results because you don't know what engine is in what car... I hope this is only speculation... and nothing more :nervous:
 
masas1
Sorry guys... I don't agree... GT Series it's about "real world", "real driving simulator", and this engine changes are not that!👎

You can not compare any race results because you don't know what engine is in what car... I hope this is only speculation... and nothing more :nervous:
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What are you talking about, :dunce: Engine swap's are in Real life. I mean seriously....How are engine swap's not real...? I see them in many form's of "Real" life Motorsports..
 
masas1
Sorry guys... I don't agree... GT Series it's about "real world", "real driving simulator", and this engine changes are not that!👎

You can not compare any race results because you don't know what engine is in what car... I hope this is only speculation... and nothing more :nervous:
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Are you saying engine swaps don't happen in real life? What about the V8s in the AE86 drifters? what about that guy in dubai who put the SLR's engine in the SLK55? What about the Vauxhall victor in the UK with a 9.3L TT that puts out 2200hp?

After one gets bored of close, fair racing (granted - it'd take a while) they start trying to make a car go as fast as possible. If I want to fill a Honda Z act with an 800hp group C engine, then I will make full use of this engine swap option (if it actuall is an option).
 
There will likely be limits as to what you can change the engine to. eg. engine from a car with same # of cylinders & same drivetrain layout.
 
J-PaP, I doubt the drivetrain layout would be an issue. It's quite common to swap engines like the RB26 from a AWD Skyline into a RWD 240sx.

But its definitely a VERY cool feature if PD does add it. This will add a whole new level to the re-playability of the game.
 
It depends on the car. Drivetrain matters as certain drivetrains normally feature certain engine configurations. I'm going to use the Lotus Elise as an example. Your easiest type of engine to fit is something out of a FWD like an integra/euro accord/celica/corolla motor which are East/West motors. You can keep the gearbox then making the install a bit easier than having to have custom flywheels/clutches etc. to make the gearbox and engine mate up.
 
I believe engine swaps have a possibility of being in GT5. I don't believe it will go so far as to let you throw Audi engines into Ferrari's. Sorry, but that doesn't seem logical, or something manufacturers are going to go for.
 
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I believe engine swaps have a possibility of being in GT5. I don't believe it will go so far as to let you throw Audi engines into Ferrari's. Sorry, but that doesn't seem logical, or something manufacturers are going to go for.
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It's exactly what I mean... an Audi with a Ferrari engine:crazy: I don't think that the two brands will like it at all...
 
I hope this not the case, maybe in arcade mode, but not as a simulator.👎
 
I'd be surprised if they give you that much freedom just because of the difficulty of figuring out which engines can go into which cars.

You can shove almost any engine into any car as long as it physically fits in the engine bay, just requires some work welding on new brackets and adapter plates. If you have a workshop equipped with a TIG welder, lathe and mill, you can make almost anything fit into anything :P
 
They are gonna keep it real so no RB26DETT in a golf!. But you can count on it that every RWD german car of mine will be 2JZ powered.
 
All you need is an engine that fits into the engine bay and enough space to connect it to the drive train, some engines can require a complicated setup for this but as long as the endine bay is big enough there's nothing to make it impossible to fit a particular engine in. A lot of race cars have different engine to thier road going counterpats so it's not unusual or unrealistic to see even in motorsports. For example many touring car rules allow a team to fit any engine upto a certain capacity from the manufacturer of the car thier using. For example a Vauxhall Astra touring car doesn't have to have the same engine as the road car.

I do think engine swaps have a good chance of being in, I did read an interview a while back where Kaz said he iked the idea. Didn't confirm anything but he implied that he wanted to include them. I don't think they will be cross manufacturer though, there would be plenty of licensing issues if they tried to do this no doubt.
 
Hmm what has happen to my IN BEFORE LOCK GIF? Thanks for taking it out since it's not locked :)


About people that got pissed with Ferrari and Audi swap
I think if that was true interview, KAZ only has mention that you can do whatever you like, Of course who would swap Ferrari engine with Audi, unless it's more powerful. But hey, AWD Ferrari? why not?

I love the way KAZ thinks. For me, I would always love to buy small cars and stick in Mercedes engines. It's possible in real life, its fun and why should the game miss out on it.

In FM2 you could do that, but only same company engine. I liked it, but not too many choices. With unlocking every car it would be more fun to swap enignes now. More Choices. So now.. 800 cars, well 200 race cars for example... So 600 cars that can swap 600 engines... that gives off.. :dunce: umm.. a lot of possibilities, also we for sure know GT5 will have body kits, rims, and some basic Livery editor. So now every single car that you will race online, will be so damn unique, you won't find another one alike, even if you drive a civic, I bet another Civic will have a S2000 engine with yellow paint color and Your MOM sticker in the back, while your will have a 1970s Ferrari engine with red paint job and some logos on side of the car.
Just think of the possibilities.

I hope they implement more accurate system when you swap engine, I hope the Weight transfers. I don't wanna Diss on FM2 but they did lil mistake because when you swap engine, distribution ratio never changed. PD should make no mistakes on this.
I would love to buy a light British sports car, yet it's engine is HUGE V8 that makes the car over steer too much, So I would buy some Nissan V6 twin turbo engine since it would be lighter.

It's really more endless possibilities just on engine swaps alone.

Also I hope they put Driveration mods. I would love to turn a Civic into a RWD car with it's stock motor.

If this is all true, Engine Swaps, Body kits, car mods, livery editor, etc etc,

GT5 will have a bright future.

Oh and we need Day/Night cycles!
 
Dave A
For example a Vauxhall Astra touring car doesn't have to have the same engine as the road car.
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Isn't the touring car version rear wheel drive while the street version is front wheel drive?

At the end of the day, the only thing that defines a car is its shell. You can do whatever the heck you want and just put a Ferrari shell on it, or a Hyundai Getz shell on it if you want.
 
The Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren's engine weights 232kg. If you put it in a Fiat 500R, not only it wouldn't fit by convential means, it would completely change the car's weight. There's more to calculate than just an increase in power.

Others have already pointed out manufacturer's issues.
 
WolfRacer543
Isn't the touring car version rear wheel drive while the street version is front wheel drive?

At the end of the day, the only thing that defines a car is its shell. You can do whatever the heck you want and just put a Ferrari shell on it, or a Hyundai Getz shell on it if you want.
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No, at least not the BTCC versions, they're still FWD but there are plenty of race cars where nearly everything under the body is different including the drive.
 
To implement this function,
would be just too complicated,
and would take PD another 2 years..,
so no thanks!
 
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