GT6 @ gamecom 2013

[Ganon83]

BUUUUUTTT Nobody is ever ever ever ever going to make a track that boring and utilize literally every square inch of land.

In 18 years of living, if anything, I've learned to never doubt the Internet.

 

[ildd]

Holly mother of a cow, that is insanely big.

Lets say you went 320 kph(200 mph) the entire time.

That's 625 hours.
26.04 days.

Annnnnd you just did 1 lap.


scaled down to the 100 sq km track, it would take 6.25 hours to do 1 lap at 200 mph/320 kph


Moral of the story is if Kaz said anything, it's no more than 100 sq KM

 

[TheMokafan]

I assume you can't, but imagine if you can include overpasses and bridges over your track. Then you have to wonder how high you can stack the track and how much total track surface you can create.

 

[ildd]

I assume you can't, but imagine if you can include overpasses and bridges over your track. Then you have to wonder how high you can stack the track and how much total track surface you can create.

Well, you would have to have proper infrastructure to support the "2nd deck" which would remove *some* of the below land.

 

[CinnamonOD]

Le mans is around 8 sqkm

Couldn't you actually make the BAJA 1000 course in full if that's the case

Nope blue line covers around 100 km

Wow I actually wasn't that far off.
+1 for meeeee

You deserve it :tup:

In the 1950's I remember reading of there being this huge Mexican road race that was over 2,000 miles long from point A to point B, which took like a week to complete with quite a few people dying.
With 100 X 100, that course is possible.
Yeah, I wouldn't bet on 100 X 100 being right. Personally I just want a course maker that adds banking to turns and makes ovals easier to make.

La carrera panamericana... this year's distance will be around 3000 km (around 1850 miles)

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Le mans is around 8 sqkm




Nope blue line covers around 100 km

Nice can't wait to make tilkedome's but better .

That baja route is cool, and gives perspective. I wonder if runners use it

 

[TheDabbinDave]

100 x 100, we don't need no stinking Isle of Mann, man!!!

 

[Ganon83]

La carrera panamericana... this year's distance will be around 3000 km (around 1850 miles)

Off topic, but it's back? Wow, I'm amazed
Fun fact: The very first winner of it, Hershel McGriff, was racing NASCAR Modifieds as late as last year at the age of 84

 

[CinnamonOD]

Off topic, but it's back? Wow, I'm amazed
Fun fact: The very first winner of it, Hershel McGriff, was racing NASCAR Modifieds as late as last year at the age of 84

It's been around since the late 80's as far as I know

But to keep tradition, they still race the 50's cars

It'd be a cool idea if someone make replicas of every section of the layout

 

[Grand Prix]

So, how long will it be until someone makes the Isle of Mann TT, the Mille Miglia, the Circuito Piccolo delle Madonie (Targa Florio circuit), or La Carrera Panamericana in GT6...?

I think 1,000 square kilometeres is more likely. 100 square kilometeres better still,

 

[eran0004]

How big is the Nurburgring in Sq Km? Or LeMans in Sq Km?

By judging from Google Maps I would say that Nürburgring is roughly 5x5 km, so 25km².
La Sarthe would be approximately 6x1 km, so 6km²

 

[CinnamonOD]

By judging from Google Maps I would say that Nürburgring is roughly 5x5 km, so 25km².
La Sarthe would be approximately 6x1 km, so 6km²

This has been answered already

im converting to miles because its easiler to me

100 sq km(10km x 10km) = 38.61 sq miles, which would be 6.2 miles tall and 6.2 miles wide.

OK, You could make a 3:2 scale of the Nurburgring and still make it a little wider.(with 100 sq km/ 38 sq mi) But there is sooo much open space in the middle, you could keep the original track and then put Daytona in it... twice.

Nürburgring is roughly 16.626 sqkm (the inner part of the circuit of both GP and Nordschleife)

Le mans is around 8 sqkm

 

[eran0004]

This has been answered already

Well, course maker will most likely use a square layout, so to get a proper estimate on how much space you'll need to make Nürburgring, you should place a square on top of it and measure its area. I don't think course maker will come in the shape of Nürburgring.

 

[05XR8]

Thanks for the answers everyone. Hand claps all 'round. Now, it comes down to what is allowed in each environment. Like someone stated, figure 8's. I'd welcome proper WRC Special Stages. Even tunnels in country landscapes to hear the V12's. I think we'll know come TGS.

 

[ildd]

Well, we know this-
The longest straight on Nord is 1.33 miles. If you rotate the layout so it looks like this-

Top to bottom is just barely over 4 miles on a straight plane(i'm using a ruler) and side-to-side is about 2 3/4 miles. 2.75x4.02= 11 square miles, or 17.68 square KM
note- didn't count the GP/D at bottom right.

If I counted right...

Well, course maker will most likely use a square layout, so to get a proper estimate on how much space you'll need to make Nürburgring, you should place a square on top of it and measure its area. I don't think course maker will come in the shape of Nürburgring.

That's what I did. I used a box-type area instead of the actual area and got 17.68 sq km, compared to the true area of 16.something

 

[acidreach]

Extend of the demo:

Tracks:

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=CA724123CC3931CC!682&authkey=!APN4g6bln5gBBh4&v=3

According to this demo track selection sceen, not all tracks have changeable time of day or weather?

 

[THOMASBARNES]

According to this demo track selection sceen, not all tracks have changeable time of day or weather?

And also it seems like the Matterhorn will have time and weather change which surprises me a little seeing as it doesn't have the cloudless skies like the other time change tracks

 

[ShiftingGears]

100km x 100km is an area only slightly smaller than Jamaica. Embarrassing translation work. Still, I am hoping for a course creator that allows for actual customisation rather than just a random generation of courses with blind crests right before sharp corners.

 

[DK]

Translator-san must've got it wrong then. That's just unbelievable, mind-boggling HUGE. For comparison, how big is a Grand Theft Auto city?

San Andreas was 37.625 sq. km, while GTA IV's Liberty City was 16.524 sq. km.

Source

 

[Imari]

100km x 100km is an area only slightly smaller than Jamaica. Embarrassing translation work. Still, I am hoping for a course creator that allows for actual customisation rather than just a random generation of courses with blind crests right before sharp corners.

Indeed. If it has a real course creator (a la Mod Nation Racers, where you can actually make the track you want), it will in my opinion totally make up for all the deficiencies of GT5 and more.

A true course creator adds so much content to the game it's unbelievable. Someone on the internet will make a decent copy of pretty much every track imaginable. You will be able to make a copy of your favourite driving road.

Still, I imagine that they'll manage to cripple it in some way, like they did the GT5 course "creator".

 

[DK]

I doubt it will be a totally free track editor (i.e. without restrictions), but you'll choose the roads the track will follow instead.

I'd love to be proved wrong, though.

 

[Tenacious D]

I wouldn't be too surprised if the Course Maker 2 area really was 100x100km. Sample the terrain data around Andelucia, assign a few course modelers and artists to "3D" it and populate it with foliage and whatever objects lie out in the countryside, give them a few years and I think they could do it. I say this because there are war games coming out which have ungodly large maps that really are dozens of kilometers across, or more.

There is another, slightly saner angle. Large map environs, a number of them of different types as we got in Course Maker 1, which might total something like 100x100km.

In both cases though, I'm sure there will be a length limit to the course you can make, because the data generated to support it would grow massively depending on its length. Maybe 20-25km long, maybe 15. I think it's probably longer than the 10km-minus limit I reached in CM1. The massive area will give you a lot of variety of terrain to make as mild or challenging course as you want, and I forget the size of the terrain in CM1, particularly the forest area (Eiger?), but it's fairly big.

 

[RoadRunner99]

I don't know if already posted

Full GamesCom 2013 GT press session (audio could be better though):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV1abWVXGn4

www.MundoGT.es

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Here is a link to a Multiplayer.It italian page
http://multiplayer.it/articoli/122383-gran-turismo-6-la-passione-di-gran-turismo.html

We need to be careful to take this as final but, if they are correct, we'll have day/night cycle at Daytona and SPA which would make sense thinking about 24 hours...

Also players will be able to schedule their online races

It's not clear where they got these information though... maybe they are in the video (see first link above, I cannot watch it now)

The rest of the article is basically not that relevant IMO.

 

[wicken]

Anyone is going to provide a summary of the entire GT6 conference?

 

[Imari]

Wow. It really is 100x100kms. And he's claiming that the course maker is fundamentally different from GT5s, which can only be promising for a true course designer.

My first thought is how on earth are they going to deal with draw distances? The rally stages and some of the course maker settings on GT5 suffered from some fairly severe popup at times.

Dunno, maybe the tesselation means that stuff scales into the distance really well. I hope so.

 

[TokoTurismo]

wow. It really is 100x100kms. And he's claiming that the course maker is fundamentally different from gt5s, which can only be promising for a true course designer.

Gasp! (*.*)

 

[research]

Guys. That is a mistranslation in it's simplest form. He must have the correct 100 square km in his head, and thinks that means 100x100 km. There's no way in hell. What a waste of resources and time it would be to create a track the size of jamaica.

10x10 km = 100 km squared. This is still absolutely massive- a size that no sane person could complain about.

Translator-san has made another classic mistake- leading all of us to lose our minds.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Guys. That is a mistranslation in it's simplest form. He must have the correct 100 square km in his head, and thinks that means 100x100 km. There's no way in hell. What a waste of resources and time it would be to create a track the size of jamaica.

10x10 km = 100 km squared. This is still absolutely massive- a size that no sane person could complain about.

Translator-san has made another classic mistake- leading all of us to lose our minds.

Ohh, thanks for the notice research. 👍 I'm gonna love the new Course Maker, wha?

 

[Ganon83]

I just really want to be able to make decent looking NASCAR ovals. Of the two NASCAR ovals in the game as it is, both of them are anomalies and not like the other courses in NASCAR. It would be like making an F1 game with just Monaco and Spa.
Of course, I also would like the rally fans on here to be able to make actual courses of theirs to put in the game, since PD did even less for them.

 

[gNNY]

The video from the press session is the exact one I attended. I have pretty much perfect audio of it. And I saw the GoPro that was used during the session as I was standing almost next to it. However, video recording was not allowed during the presentation which is why I and a bunch of others turned off their cameras...