GT6 Official Car List Impressions/Thoughts

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Whats a SWB ?
Short wheelbase, as posted above. đź‘Ť They were known for being great driver's cars back in the late 50's/early 60's. Owners could drive to the racetrack, win in style, and drive back home again. :lol: True Grand Tourers in every sense of the term.
 
For comparison I just checked the official car list from Forza 5 (I posted it in other thread as well, I´m not spamming this is the last time):

That list you posted consists of cars that I've driven in games for I don't know how many times, and maybe some new ones. It's hard to become enthousiastic about cars I can drive in literally EVERY single racing game...

Thing is, where else have you seen a Grande Punto Abarth? Or an R8 Gordini? đź‘Ť These are unique to GT6. The likes of the Agera, LaFerrari, P1 etc will eventually be common in a lot of racing games. Can one say the R8 Gordini will be common? Doubt it.

That's what I'm trying to say. For example, people keep talking about Koenigsegg. I've driven those cars in Forza, Shift 2, Grid 2, Forza Horizon, Test Drive Unlimited 2... Is it so strange that I don't care about it that much anymore? A lot of these cars get overused very easily, especially since, sorry, modern hypercars are already very close to each other in terms of driving characteristics and speed...
 
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That's what I'm trying to say. For example, people keep talking about Koenigsegg. I've driven those cars in Forza, Shift 2, Grid 2, Forza Horizon, Test Drive Unlimited 2... Is it so strange that I don't care about it that much anymore? A lot of these cars get overused very easily, especially since, sorry, modern hypercars are already very close to each other in terms of driving characteristics and speed...
Koenigsegg are a noticable omission from GT.
That list you posted consists of cars that I've driven in games for I don't know how many times, and maybe some new ones. It's hard to become enthousiastic about cars I can drive in literally EVERY single racing game...
We'd probably complain if they weren't in GT6 though, wouldn't we?
 
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Koenigsegg are a noticable omission from GT.

That's your opinion, but you state it as fact. I don't mind it being excluded, but you say it like I should.

We'd probably complain if they weren't in GT6 though, wouldn't we?

Again, who are we? One of the biggest mistakes that is constantly repeated here is stating opinions as facts and then, worse yet, assuming that everybody thinks the same. Yes, it misses some hypercars. Do I care? No, no and if it wasn't clear, no. Notice the use of the word I instead of we here.
 
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The_Rpg_Moogle said
That's what I'm trying to say. For example, people keep talking about Koenigsegg. I've driven those cars in Forza, Shift 2, Grid 2, Forza Horizon, Test Drive Unlimited 2... Is it so strange that I don't care about it that much anymore? A lot of these cars get overused very easily, especially since, sorry, modern hypercars are already very close to each other in terms of driving characteristics and speed...

Jarnac said
Koenigsegg are a noticable omission from GT.
That's your opinion, but you state it as fact. I don't mind it, but you say it like I should.
You stated yourself that certain cars feature in nearly every racing game - so actually it is your opinion.

The_Rpg_Moogle said
That list you posted consists of cars that I've driven in games for I don't know how many times, and maybe some new ones. It's hard to become enthousiastic about cars I can drive in literally EVERY single racing game...

Jarnac said
We'd probably complain if they weren't in GT6 though, wouldn't we?
Again, who are we? One of the biggest mistakes that is constantly repeated here is stating opinions as facts and then, worse yet, assuming that everybody thinks the same. Yes, it misses some hypercars. Do I care? No, no and if it wasn't clear, no. Notice the use of the word I instead of we here.
You misunderstood my point; to clarify, if a car you actually did care about was removed from the car list, would you not complain?
 
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Whats a SWB ?
One of the greats, one of the dual-purpose 250 GTs that Ferrari built that were used on both the road and in racing, though perhaps it's ultimate purpose was more geared for the latter.

It was the successor to the 250 GT Tour de France but much improved with a 20 mm shorter wheelbase (hence the name) and a stiffer chassis, which made the car lighter, nimbler and faster than the Tour de France. The SWB was also one of the first Ferraris ever to feature telescopic shocks and disc brakes. It was the ultimate 250 GT (save for only the GTO which was quite far removed from the family and not really a true 250 GT).
 
One of the greats, one of the dual-purpose 250 GTs that Ferrari built that were used on both the road and in racing, though perhaps it's ultimate purpose was more geared for the latter.

It was the successor to the 250 GT Tour de France but much improved with a 20 mm shorter wheelbase (hence the name) and a stiffer chassis, which made the car lighter, nimbler and faster than the Tour de France. The SWB was also one of the first Ferraris ever to feature telescopic shocks and disc brakes. It was the ultimate 250 GT (save for only the GTO which was quite far removed from the family and not really a true 250 GT).
Interesting, so we get to drive this car in GT6 ? Can't wait to try this along with the R8 Gordini. I don't know much about historical cars like these but i'm trying to learn. Props to you and @gran Prix for the knowledge :)
 
The_Rpg_Moogle said
That's what I'm trying to say. For example, people keep talking about Koenigsegg. I've driven those cars in Forza, Shift 2, Grid 2, Forza Horizon, Test Drive Unlimited 2... Is it so strange that I don't care about it that much anymore? A lot of these cars get overused very easily, especially since, sorry, modern hypercars are already very close to each other in terms of driving characteristics and speed...

Jarnac said
Koenigsegg are a noticable omission from GT.

You stated yourself that certain cars feature in nearly every racing game - so actually it is your opinion.

The_Rpg_Moogle said
That list you posted consists of cars that I've driven in games for I don't know how many times, and maybe some new ones. It's hard to become enthousiastic about cars I can drive in literally EVERY single racing game...

Jarnac said
We'd probably complain if they weren't in GT6 though, wouldn't we?

You misunderstood my point; to clarify, if a car you actually did care about was removed from the car list, would you not complain?

On the last point, agreed. My bad, must have misunderstood. About certain cars (in this case, Koenigsegg) appearing in almost every racing game; that is not my opionion, that actually is a fact. Try and name me a racing game produced in the last three years that didn't feature Koenigsegg (and no, F1 games and the like aren't valid. I'm talking about even mildly comparable racing games here). Apart from maybe a couple of very niche PC sims, I guess not that much...
 
Thing is, where else have you seen a Grande Punto Abarth? Or an R8 Gordini? đź‘Ť These are unique to GT6. The likes of the Agera, LaFerrari, P1 etc will eventually be common in a lot of racing games. Can one say the R8 Gordini will be common? Doubt it.

It's good that PD is striving to give us cars that no one has...

But the reason for why PD is not including the obvious supercars (Agera, LaFerrari, P1) may be due to others games fighting to have them... Or the cost of having them?!?

Does anyone know?

Could it be negociations between companies to keep PD from leading the game chart? Is that a plausible conspiracy theory against PD?
Why else would PD not include those?
 
Why else would PD not include those?

If the Ferrari California in GT5P and the McLaren MP4-12C in GT5 are any indication, it's best to wait with the modelling of a car until it's represented accurately in the game. With those two that I mentioned, they were included very early, but were lacking the true characteristics of the car.

I don't know, if it's just me, but I'd rather have a car that drives like the real thing in the game, not only looks like it. That part is sort of a given anyway.
 
The_Rpg_Moogle said
That's what I'm trying to say. For example, people keep talking about Koenigsegg. I've driven those cars in Forza, Shift 2, Grid 2, Forza Horizon, Test Drive Unlimited 2... Is it so strange that I don't care about it that much anymore? A lot of these cars get overused very easily, especially since, sorry, modern hypercars are already very close to each other in terms of driving characteristics and speed...

Jarnac said
Koenigsegg are a noticable omission from GT.
That's your opinion, but you state it as fact. I don't mind it, but you say it like I should.
You stated yourself that certain cars feature in nearly every racing game - so actually it is your opinion.
About certain cars (in this case, Koenigsegg) appearing in almost every racing game; that is not my opionion, that actually is a fact. Try and name me a racing game produced in the last three years that didn't feature Koenigsegg (and no, F1 games and the like aren't valid. I'm talking about even mildly comparable racing games here). Apart from maybe a couple of very niche PC sims, I guess not that much...
Exactly, so Koenigsegg is noticeably absent from GT!
 
Just remember the days of GT1, GT2, GT3 and GT4 prior to GT on the current generation consoles- no road-going McLarens, no Ferraris, no Bugattis, no Lamborghinis, no Maseratis etc. So, PD have come quite a long way in the last decade or so. Imagine if these manufacturers were still absent from GT ;)
 
Just remember the days of GT1, GT2, GT3 and GT4 prior to GT on the current generation consoles- no road-going McLarens, no Ferraris, no Bugattis, no Lamborghinis, no Maseratis etc. So, PD have come quite a long way in the last decade or so. Imagine if these manufacturers were still absent from GT ;)

Miss those days! :(
 
I have just looked properly at the announced car list and noticed that all the cars that were RM'd in GT5 are in the list separately from their base cars. I wonder if this means anything for RM in GT6
 
About that Bugatti Veyron we saw in the trailer.
We all know that PD has a car labeled the Bugatti Veyron EB16.4 2013. We also know that a Bugatti Veyron EB16.4 2009 is also on that car list. Is it a possibility that both cars are premium and accurately modeled (as opposed to what we originally thought, that PD can't recognize their own cars that spent months modeling).

I am starting to think more premiums are hidden among the cars within that GT6 car list that Polyphony provided. Remember that hyper detailed 1967 Toyota 2000GT that we saw in the "Start your engines" trailer? Notice how it was not at the top of the list with the "new for GT6" cars. I think the GT5 model of that car was completely replaced by a premium model.

My reasoning behind this is that I have noticed there is only one Jaguar XJR-9 (which in GT5 had both a standard and premium model and counted as two separate cars), one Acura NSX 1991, one Chevrolet Camaro Z/29 1969, and on and on. I think that some standards have been outright dropped from the game. This could explain why that 2000GT is "missing" from the car list.

I have just looked properly at the announced car list and noticed that all the cars that were RM'd in GT5 are in the list separately from their base cars. I wonder if this means anything for RM in GT6

Maybe this is a good thing. If the customization in GT6 is good enough, RM's may no longer be necessary since we will b able to install roll cages, carbon fiber body panels, additional foglights, a larger range of spoilers, diffusers, and front splitters, wider fenders, wider tyres, deeper front intakes, rear oil coolers, race style fuel cells and receptacles, underbody trays, stripped dashes, racing seats, stripped interiors, fire systems, data packs and et cetera.
 
I'm really happy to see the Abarth 500 and Grande Punto, never expected to see those two cars get added. I'm also happy with the supercars. Overall, I love the car list and think PD has done a fantastic job of getting different types of cars. :D
Abarth 500 is a cute looking car, isn't it đź‘Ť It will be fun to blast that little car around on GT6. :D
 
Lexus SC 430 (EU) '01
Lexus SC 430 (US) '01

Why?

Lexus GS 300 Vertex Edition (J) ’00
Lexus IS 200 (J) ’98

These two cars don't exist in real life...

Nissan 200SX ’96
Nissan 200SX (S14) ’96
Nissan 240SX ’96
Nissan 240SX (S14) ’96

Seriously?

Nissan 350Z (Z33, EU) ’03
Nissan 350Z (Z33, US) ’03

Stop.

Nissan 350Z Roadster (Z33, EU) ’03
Nissan 350Z Roadster (Z33, US) ’03

Please...

Honda S2000 (EU) ’01
Honda S2000 (US) ’01

Make. It. Stop.
 
Lexus SC 430 (EU) '01
Lexus SC 430 (US) '01

Why?

Lexus GS 300 Vertex Edition (J) ’00
Lexus IS 200 (J) ’98

These two cars don't exist in real life...

Nissan 200SX ’96
Nissan 200SX (S14) ’96
Nissan 240SX ’96
Nissan 240SX (S14) ’96

Seriously?

Nissan 350Z (Z33, EU) ’03
Nissan 350Z (Z33, US) ’03

Stop.

Nissan 350Z Roadster (Z33, EU) ’03
Nissan 350Z Roadster (Z33, US) ’03

Please...

Honda S2000 (EU) ’01
Honda S2000 (US) ’01

Make. It. Stop.
Yeah, bloody unnecessary duplicates will dominate the GT's car count yet again. May be they'll stop doing that on GT7 lol.
 

I think I might have an idea why the Nissan Deltawing was removed. This is the Nissan BladeGlider concept car. Maybe they'll add it instead.
 

I think I might have an idea why the Nissan Deltawing was removed. This is the Nissan BladeGlider concept car. Maybe they'll add it instead.


Sooooo, when the driver opens the door, the passenger to his left can't get out at all! Seat moves across lol
 
Sooooo, when the driver opens the door, the passenger to his left can't get out at all! Seat moves across lol
Only a problem if 3 passengers, which is truly funny :lol: considering its design (think any 84 to 2012 Camaro with 4 occupants none are children ) are in the car...
 
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