GT6 Prologue
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- bongripz216
I would much rather see a refined version of GT5 for GT6 like GT2 on PS1 and GT4 on PS2 then have them start over. Fix the problems and annoyances while adding more premium cars and possible more tracks. If it is to be a OS3 release and we do still have standards those standards better have their unique traits back like they had from GT1-GT4. Expanded A spec with one makes back would be great too. 👍
I cant say I wouldnt buy a prologue if its released for PS3 but I can say for certain I wont be buying a PS4. I cant see myself spending that kind of money again with how disappointing PS3 was.
I cant say I wouldnt buy a prologue if its released for PS3 but I can say for certain I wont be buying a PS4. I cant see myself spending that kind of money again with how disappointing PS3 was.
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Wonderful, but don't you think some people who now might be strictly against it would get in sore temptation when the game would stand right in front of them in a retailers shelf? Perhaps at a discount? Perhaps with wonderful critics and very promising new features you possibly ever wanted to see in a GT title? No?I bet you $39.99 I wouldn't. I don't own GT5, not GT4
Remember: I'm talking about some people, not all.
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I did see it quoted several times later in the year. I like that kind of thing.
It should be cheaper than the 3...and do you really think the PS4 would be a disappointment after the preview of some of its capabilities we've seen? I know that I found it difficult to go back to the PS2 after getting the 3.
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Now explain to me since when majority can't be meant with some?
"Some" only defines that it's not nothing, not only one thing and not everything of something. The "majority" of something is the biggest part, in this case over 50% but less than 100%.
To be precise: Everything from 50%+(smallest possible)1 - 100%-(smallest possible)1
Currently: 32 No -> 17-31
Still want to say that some can't possibly be the majority of something? I also was only referring to this threads poll, just to be clear.
I wouldn't say it's that pointless because of only 85 total voters, it's more because a certain group of people may be more interested into this poll and feel a bigger need to vote. Most likely it's the group which is against it. Human psychology - awkward thing I tell you.
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Majority would be a subset of some then, so Simon wouldn't be wrong on calling you out. He did not say that "some" couldn't encapsulate the majority, he is saying that majority is a lot more specific and that is what he was attacking.
In either case I don't see why many people would necessarily change their mind unless PD did something drastically different like buyers of Prologue get GT6 full at a discount. I know I certainly won't buy another GT game for the PS3 ever.
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This is preposterous! Seeing the whole thing as a conversation which he was fully involved and aware of, there's no point of bringing up that bubble of contingently hypothetical inconsistency.
It's all vague and unspecific dear Exorcet, that's apparently what this whole thread is about. However, it should be clear that it was a personal deliberately assumption, which, although absolutely not arbitrary, is highly individual origin and not ideal to be seen as utterly predetermined matter.
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Not paying $60 bucks for basically a demo of the game. No way I will do that again. I would pay maybe 1/4th of that or less. In my opinion it should be free. But i need to think realistic so free isn't going to happen. Having to pay $60 for a intro/demo of a game no just no.
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GT Prologue has never been a full price title. It has always been €25 - €30 which is half what a full retail game is.
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Serious?! You were robbed L2L.
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Pretty sure it was £19.99 in the uk.
Imo there was decent amount of content on there for that price.....
Imo there was decent amount of content on there for that price.....
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Yes, it wasnt the system itself I was disappointing in so much as the games. I guess I could just be getting old or something but new console games always seem to disappoint me.
Maybe I made it sound like its about the money but it isnt since I plan on shelling out quite abit more on a new PC mainly for gaming it really isnt.
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I have to say that I'm seriously ready to move on to GT6, no matter what system it's on. I love GT5, can hardly stop racing it, but all the patches are making my game senile. My brakes aren't working right now, have to adjust them or use ABS 1, weather is acting up, tracks fail to load, loading in general is sluggish as heck... I have to quit GT5 and reload after two or three races. And file bloat from Museum Cards and paint chips can't be helping. I'm going to get a late copy with the updates coded in, delete my install after a save backup and see if that fixes a few things.
Hopefully, GT6 is pretty much refined, defined and bullet proof. Patching games as you go is never as stable as a game coded right to start with.
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How much was the full game?
Exchange rates aren't that useful here, real prices are. You also can't really use PPP because a game is technically a luxury not a commodity, but it's probably still a better bet. In fact, you could probably use the prices of these games in different regions as a kind of PPP measure in themselves.
I paid a smidge less than £20 for GT5
, and less than £40 for GT5 proper; RRPs were indeed £25 and £60 respectively.To be honest, less than half price for a physical copy of a cut down game isn't bad (the Prologues were never really "demonstrations", as they played very differently from the games they were preceding).
But $40 instead of $60 US? That's stupid. Sony America are a law unto themselves, as usual.
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I certainly agree that a PS3 GT6 could improve significantly over GT5. But for me, that's not enough. I want a leading edge simulation. Giving up PS4's hardware advantages won't allow for that. To me, GT6 on PS3 will be PD saying they're not interested in max simulation (at this time).
To be honest that $40 I spent was a much better value than the $60 I spent trying early PS3 NFS games. GT5P was pretty much the best PS3 racing game of its time IMO.
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First 100 votes. All anonymous.
Yes: 63
No: 37.
Positive posts: 13
Negative posts: 26
Rest are undecided, considering price and quality, or are more posts from the same users but discussing ideas instead of opinions/hate posts.
Leaderboard:
9 negative posts by simonk.
I know 100 votes and 86 posts is inconclusive, but still goes to show how much vocal a minority can be on the interwebz. Had I not added a poll the supposed consensus would have been completely opposite.
Yes: 63
No: 37.
Positive posts: 13
Negative posts: 26
Rest are undecided, considering price and quality, or are more posts from the same users but discussing ideas instead of opinions/hate posts.
Leaderboard:
9 negative posts by simonk.
I know 100 votes and 86 posts is inconclusive, but still goes to show how much vocal a minority can be on the interwebz. Had I not added a poll the supposed consensus would have been completely opposite.
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Ehh?
59 CHF (Swiss Francs) was the real price, the price it was listed for AND the price in the stores AND the price I paid for it.
And were did I use PPP? I definitely did not! I only used the real exchange rates from april 2008 as I wrote in the post you quoted.
GT5 cost about 79 CHF, but at that time the dollar was already weaker than the Swiss Franc, making it even worse.
What? I'm sure that wasn't the actual reason. The problem was most likely how you did it.
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I mentioned PPP because it's a common alternative to exchange rates, because the latter mean nothing regarding the value of goods offered for sale within a country, as they're only valid for external trade. PPP is deliberately intended to get a more concrete sense of the "value" of a currency in its home market, but not usually for luxury goods. I never said you specifically used it; although I did say "you", when I really meant "one" - a common English grammatical inaccuracy, given the pompous overtones inherently connoted in using "one".
So, you paid 59 CHF for GT5
and 79 CHF for GT5? Sucks, I guess. Maybe you should write to Sony, because that's not in line with the rest of Europe (but then Switzerland isn't really in line with the rest of Europe in general, so perhaps that's to be expected.) The US price of Prologue was 2/3rds that of the full game, the Swiss ratio was 3/4 (the highest relatively so far), the Eurozone approx 1/2, and the UK Prologue price was 5/12ths that of the full game.
Clearly we got the best deal, and I suppose all the complaining about "glorified demo" make sense in light of that; even then it's a totally inaccurate and unhelpful complaint, since the real complaint is the price, not the content.
Finally, to reiterate, exchange rates mean nothing for the domestic sale of luxury goods; the price you actually paid indicates better than any equivalent (e.g. exchange rates) what Sony thinks the market you live and operate in is "worth". That's what I meant by "real price". For example, you actually got the full game for £39 by those same 2008 exchange rates, so you really shouldn't be complaining at all...
