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Fall/Winter 2014.
GT6 release date prediction (year)
- Thread starter calahan
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- Windsor, Ontario, Canada
- Johnnypenso
If the standard is "live without" then PS0 would still be around because I can live without Playstation just fine. It's not about "good enough" or "live without" it's about moving closer and closer to reality in a more and more immersive experience. Reality is the ultimate limit and you are right about the leap, as we are getting closer and closer to reality, the gains are smaller and smaller.
When you step into your lifelike racing cockpit, your peripheral vision from one end to the other is nothing but car and track, you smell burning rubber and fuel, your pit crew is talking into your headpiece, you can't distinguish the cars/people/buildings/track/tuning options etc. in the game from real life, then you are close to the limit. When you can plug that complete immersion scenario into a real life race so you can race virtually with real life cars in real time on the same track and if you crash a mechanical bar swoops around and whacks you in the head, then you're there.
We're not there yet
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- C0R3Ys-_-K20EG
December 18th 2014
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- Los Angeles
- P917K23
Well put. This is the reason why we all have a Video Game or Virtual Reality Fetish. We all desire to attain certain experiences that emulate reality, especially with realms that are difficult and or dangerous to achieve in real life such as motor sports, criminal activity, war, and even sex. Haven't we all dreamed of the day (yes, both men and women) where you plug yourself into a virtual reality world of erotic pleasures. I know I have, im a Scorpio. It is in my blood.
This desire will not be satiated any time soon however, as reality to such a degree is yet un-replicable and so all we can, and should do, is continue moving along this positive technological curve and attempt to come as close to reality as we possibly can.
Regarding the Thread Topic....... Given Mr. Yamauchi's words in a recent interview posted here on GTPlanet from SEMA, where he spoke of each Gran Turismo being a sole entity built from scratch, I would imagine this may take another 4-5 years from GT5 release (11/2010) putting it anywhere between 2014-2015. I personally think GT5 is an excellent simulator engine whose potential is not fully realized and so if they build on GT5, a time scale of 3-4 years is imminent if they want to attempt to perfect GT6. With this in mind, a potential GT6 Prologue could be released mid to late 2013 (something I personally think they should not waste time with), with the complete GT6 title (should place focus here instead) being released no less than one year later mid to late 2014. Then again, we are all speculators with our little assumptions, and will just have to sit back, relax, and await patiently for our next full dosage to satiate the insatiable fix.
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^^ Well part of your post certainly scares me, and hopefully will not be further "exploited" with technology. War is something that shouldn't just be made fun, we should celebrate that human responsibility has effectively brought world peace... not that there shouldn't be war games, but with some of the titles I feel there is a massive amount of lowness to them.
Sex and fantasy relationship games are just ridicules, the beauty of life is not to be made virtual... silly.
Racing simulation on the other hand is a leap in the right direction, it's the only way to experience how difficult and fun it is without costing anything (relatively speaking) and also keeps carbon out of the atmosphere. Only pluses there.
Also, GT6 should come very early in PS4's life, then PD can work and optimize GT7 for the ultimate experience. All of this is just an opinion of course
Sex and fantasy relationship games are just ridicules, the beauty of life is not to be made virtual... silly.
Racing simulation on the other hand is a leap in the right direction, it's the only way to experience how difficult and fun it is without costing anything (relatively speaking) and also keeps carbon out of the atmosphere. Only pluses there.
Also, GT6 should come very early in PS4's life, then PD can work and optimize GT7 for the ultimate experience. All of this is just an opinion of course
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- Antonisbob
- No...
Fall 2013, if it isn't out by then I can see GT6 turning into another GT5...
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- São Paulo
- Stradivis
GT6 - late 2013 on PS3
PS4 - late 2015
GT7 Prologue - somewhere around 2016 or 2017
GT7 - 2019 or 2020
Why is that?
Well, first there are lots of big games coming up in 2013 for the current gen, so I don't think replacement is just around the corner. Complex systems demand a lot more to develop for, and now we are seeing what they can really do.
Also, I don't think there has been any significant technological leap regarding image or sound. 4K is still controversial for pratical purposes.
Sony took a lot of time to make money with the PS3. The same will ally to the PS4. So they need to milk the current cow as much as possible. 2015 seems like a good year.
New consoles have a small userbase. The PS3 sells more and more each day. GT6 in the PS3 sounds like a solid option, providing high selling numbers and also increasing consoles sales. Rockstar is doing this with GTA V.
All those development kits going around are meant to provide gaming companies development time and feedback. Sony needs a machine that's easier to code for, and that comes with a beefier launch lineup of games.
Considering this logic, the generational leap wouldn't be felt as much, considering 3 year gaps (more or less) between products in the GT catalogue. Maybe a Vita GT pushes GT7 back one year, who knows. Also, with PS4 kits in hand, PD can develop content that's future proof and use it in GT6.
And lastly, developing GT6 for the PS3 shouldn't be too hard, considering that all the background is already laid down by GT5, whether a new console will demand a whole lot more time, programming, coding, etc.
Well, that's my theory. Sounds reasonable to me.
PS4 - late 2015
GT7 Prologue - somewhere around 2016 or 2017
GT7 - 2019 or 2020
Why is that?
Well, first there are lots of big games coming up in 2013 for the current gen, so I don't think replacement is just around the corner. Complex systems demand a lot more to develop for, and now we are seeing what they can really do.
Also, I don't think there has been any significant technological leap regarding image or sound. 4K is still controversial for pratical purposes.
Sony took a lot of time to make money with the PS3. The same will ally to the PS4. So they need to milk the current cow as much as possible. 2015 seems like a good year.
New consoles have a small userbase. The PS3 sells more and more each day. GT6 in the PS3 sounds like a solid option, providing high selling numbers and also increasing consoles sales. Rockstar is doing this with GTA V.
All those development kits going around are meant to provide gaming companies development time and feedback. Sony needs a machine that's easier to code for, and that comes with a beefier launch lineup of games.
Considering this logic, the generational leap wouldn't be felt as much, considering 3 year gaps (more or less) between products in the GT catalogue. Maybe a Vita GT pushes GT7 back one year, who knows. Also, with PS4 kits in hand, PD can develop content that's future proof and use it in GT6.
And lastly, developing GT6 for the PS3 shouldn't be too hard, considering that all the background is already laid down by GT5, whether a new console will demand a whole lot more time, programming, coding, etc.
Well, that's my theory. Sounds reasonable to me.
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- porschedrifter
Late 2015, most likely. It's interesting to think how they'll make the transition from coding for a cell processor to the easier but different PC based cpu. I guess it all depends how much stuff they can convert and reuse from GT5 as opposed to having to create from scratch.
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- United Kingdom
Completley agree with this.
Maybe if it was a ps3 game and it had 100 standards, but to try and pull off a next gen game on a next gen console and make us pay for things we had on the ps2 would be like a sick horse loading the gun thats going to shoot him.
The problem is, I'd still buy the game because (and please remember this)
A fool and his money are easily parted!
Now I have faith in "kaz and the gang" I really do, but they are just far too laid back in their approach and competition doesnt seem to phase them.
Its almost as if Kaz was a billionaire before the GT series, and GT is somthing he does in his spare time.
Dont get me wrong the things they have got right with GT5 are fantastic and I'm sure will be improved and implemented in the next GT, but it does come at a cost. Sure I understand more than most that Rome wasnt built in a day. It would just make good buisness sense to take on more staff, keep the same amount of quality and have a quicker turn around.
250 premiums and 800+ ps2 quality cars?
If GT6 had just 300 premium cars 0 standards and 1-4 events/series for each car, It would have that re-play-ability that GT5 lacks so bad.
Each to their own and all but when I see people making lobbies where people are pretending to be in police cars and others are driving at a set speed limit on a computer game makes me sad
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- SWERV_GRIFFIN
If I worked on any venture, invested $60 Million in development costs, and it returned about $360-$400 Million on my investments, the last thing that I'd be doing is listening to a bunch of opinions about how I should be doing anything differently, from a bunch of guys on a Forum.
I'd be "Laid Back" in my attitude too. That's my Opinion, and I'm Just Sayin'............
I'd be "Laid Back" in my attitude too. That's my Opinion, and I'm Just Sayin'............
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- kudos00
Trufe ^^^ 👍
Kaz is definitely not calm about it though. If it appears that way, it's because he's been doing this for twenty years now.
Kaz is definitely not calm about it though. If it appears that way, it's because he's been doing this for twenty years now.
There are some problems with that theory, one big one regarding a PS3 GT6 coming out next year. It hasn't been announced. How many AAA games do you know that get announced and released within a year? The other game you mention, GTA5, was announced over a year ago. The MGS title was announced a couple of months ago. All 2013 AAA titles are already announced and where is GT6? Nowhere.
As for PS4 coming as late as 2015, that also seems highly unlikely given recent news, dev comments and insider opinions. Pretty much the entire gaming media expects PS4 and NextBox to be announced at E3 2013, possibly even earlier. If that is the case the very latest the console will actually release is holiday 2014, possibly as early as holiday 2013. 2015 is too late into the 10 year cycle, 9 years. The PS3 came roughly 6 years into the PS2 10 year cycle and I therefore expect the next gen to do the same, 2014 holiday at the very latest. Many industry folk think at least the Xbox could be holiday 2013.
Sony took a long time to turn a profit on the PS3 because it was so damn expensive to make back in 2005. The new CELL processor was expensive and including a Blu-Ray drive was very costly. They aren't going to have that same problem this time, the rumoured components are all pretty standard and in-expensive, Blu-Ray drives are very cheap now and there is nothing rumoured to be inside that costs a lot.
Not to mention Amar, who knows more than pretty much anyone here, has already strongly hinted at GT6 being on the PS4.
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- Toronto, Canada
- times_fade
The time it takes to complete work is directly impacted by the amount of workers a company has. With this sophisticated formula you can make a relatively accurate calculation when considering PD's staff is 30-40% larger. So, the whole 5 year development thing HOPEFULLY has no meaning anymore. 👍
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SimonK
Well, it's just a reasonable theory for me.
I have a feeling that this generation of consoles hasn't been fully exploited. As if developers didn't dig deep enough, you know? For instance, if you look at God of War 2, GT4, San Andreas, those games pushed the old PS2 beyond what we could expect. And that's a feeling I don't have now. Of course we have yet to see 2013 lineup to tell, but still...
This leads me to another though. Gaming is about fun, basically. Angry birds sells. We see a lot of old games popping up in PSN, Xbox Market, steam. Mega Drive games. Saturn games. PsOne games. We see lots of HD collections of old games from last gen. But not much newer games. From a market and financial perspective, do we need new consoles so desperatly? Wii U is coming because Wii sales were dropping, but PS3 sales are rising. That's something to think about.
You're right about the lack of any news regarding. GT6. It's all too quiet. Almost too quiet. No GT6 news, no GT Vita news, nothing. Maybe Kaz has learned to keep his mouth shut about upcoming projects, instead of saying 3 years ahead that he could release GT6 anytime (lol).
If GT6 is to be a PS4 game, it would have to be a launch title, or at least come within the first year. And we could be heading towards a glorified GT5 (imagine GTHD).
I like your POV, but it's somewhat scary for me, to be honest.
Well that's all opinion of course but plenty of developers will tell you they've got the most out out it, Kaz has certainly done enough to tell us the PS3 is maxed out. And besides if they haven't got the most out of them after 6/7 years I don't see them getting any better.
That's all very true but yes, I still do think there is a place in the market for next gen consoles. One of the reasons big new games are dwindling is because a lot of devs have moved focus to next gen or are finishing off their last current gen projects for next year.
Again on the subject of devs I'm sure they're desperate for new hardware, they must hate the current systems mainly because of in the PS3 case it being a bitch to program for and in both cases a dismal amount of RAM. Not that they would do this of course but a PS4 and Nextbox 100% identical to the current gen but with 2-4GB of system RAM would make for much better games.
Well Kaz did say he wouldn't announce things too soon now but I still think less than a year is pushing that too far, I said it at the time but I thought the TGS last month was the last realistic place for a 2013 PS3 GT6 to be announced and as we know, it didn't happen.
Indeed but we would just have to hope that the extended lead-in time with the new console (They started as soon as GT5 was done, remember) that we will have a complete experience in 2014.
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I don't mind if GT6 comes out in 2014 or 2015. Since I surprisingly got a month ago a brand new backward-compatible 60gb PS3 (yep it was still in production in 2012) I can play without any problems GT3 and GT4 in HD for a long time.
I think it would be awesome if PD would bring us a remastered edition of the very first Gran Turismo in HD graphics for the PS3, before they launch GT6 for PS4. If I am not mistaken, Gran Turismo is celebrating its 15th birthday on December 23rd?
I think it would be awesome if PD would bring us a remastered edition of the very first Gran Turismo in HD graphics for the PS3, before they launch GT6 for PS4. If I am not mistaken, Gran Turismo is celebrating its 15th birthday on December 23rd?
