GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[brockie]

Wow, I am loving this race A, think I’m going to be spending a lot of time there this week, I wondered if the track was too big for this car but it works well, just need to apply some gearing tips from Tidgney’s video to control the understeer and get a reasonable time in - but I’m coming around to the idea of slow road cars iso gr4’s

Enjoy the racing week ahead guys

 

[newmedia_dev]

I was pretty proud of my 1:32.4 but then I read this.... Back in the chair!

Agree however that this week will be extremely tight. To get in the 100's you need to be at zero mistakes around the entire course. I love it!

I meant 1.32.4 🙈

 

[bone_tone]

Hoping I can get back up to DR B and get my SR back to S.

You might struggle with that - this week's race C is as bad as last week's for carnage!

 

[newmedia_dev]

@skandiamannen I have a 1.31:5 at interlagos and 1.32:4 at Deep Forest I confused the two 🤣

 

[NevilleNobody]

What cars are we running for Race B? Obviously the Lambo is the meta but I dunno, I feel better in the Porsche. I Tried the Audi, felt good but time not there. I'm a bit lost with the current BOP, why is the Ford GT not a thing given it has power and can rotate?

I used to run the Aston in GT Sport, touch slow on the in field but sweet baby jesus it'd EAT other cars on the long straights. Is there anything like that now, real beat up the hill out of the last corner? I'd like to find another half second before racing if i can (so a 32.3ish) but I only have 15 mins or so to qualify.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I've seen the GTR in a few races and in previous bop versions was a solid choice also seen the 458 and NSX but these are all very much minority.

I'm not sure what it is with the Lambo that makes it so strong here but it's by far the car I set the best time with 🤷‍♂️

 

[Chris30]

What cars are we running for Race B? Obviously the Lambo is the meta but I dunno, I feel better in the Porsche. I Tried the Audi, felt good but time not there. I'm a bit lost with the current BOP, why is the Ford GT not a thing given it has power and can rotate?

I used to run the Aston in GT Sport, touch slow on the in field but sweet baby jesus it'd EAT other cars on the long straights. Is there anything like that now, real beat up the hill out of the last corner? I'd like to find another half second before racing if i can (so a 32.3ish) but I only have 15 mins or so to qualify.

You know I feel better driving in the Porsche RSR too, why is that? I know it goes through corners and turns smoothly and efficiently. I rarely ever used the Ford GT in any daily race event, because sometimes when I took a sharp turn, it would spin out and I'd lose my position and everyone passed me as I just struggled out there.

The physics and effects in gt7 seem a lot more real than what we encountered at GT Sport. I never dealt with the Astin Martin car either because I didn't like how slow it performed, I did not find any good results with it.

The Lambo feels awkward when I use it, it rotates funny and is hard to get a grip on during hard corners/turns.

 

[Barney Da Dog]

For B I like the 458 - I find the Huracan a bit awkward to drive for some reason, but others certainly get good speed out of it. I can still get 2 or 3 tenths out of the 458 which will hopefully put me further up the grid.

 

[NevilleNobody]

You know I feel better driving in the Porsche RSR too, why is that? I know it goes through corners and turns smoothly and efficiently. I rarely ever used the Ford GT in any daily race event, because sometimes when I took a sharp turn, it would spin out and I'd lose my position and everyone passed me as I just struggled out there.

I think it's the lift oversteer, so when you get off the gas she gets a little light without being snappy so you can tuck the nose in. Combine this with a stable rear end under power and it sorta works at Interlagos.

For B I like the 458 - I find the Huracan a bit awkward to drive for some reason, but others certainly get good speed out of it. I can still get 2 or 3 tenths out of the 458 which will hopefully put me further up the grid.

I see the 458 on the board, might give that a lash.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Mikal Hizal (TRL-Lightning) has posted quite a comprehensive lap guide for those interested for B



It's mental he just banged in 1.30:1 for 8 laps in a row finally setting a 1.29:9 with an even lower optimum. 👽 with the R8

 

[NevilleNobody]

Mikal Hizal (TRL-Lightning) has posted quite a comprehensive lap guide for those interested for B



It's mental he just banged in 1.30:1 for 8 laps in a row finally setting a 1.29:9 with an even lower optimum. 👽 with the R8

This is helpful, especially for that double right hander that cause me grief. However 2 things;

1) the mucking about with gears mid corner is a bit mickey mouse isn't it, the car IRL would lose a box doing what these top guys do but he gets insane rotation by abusing the gears

2) I literally have zero clue how he exits so clean with TC off. He's not THAT careful with the throttle, the last right hander is super slippery and kind of awkward and he is laying on the gas way, way earlier and harder than I can with TC1. No idea how he does it and TBH this is where the aliens gain a lot of their time, they gun it out of slower corners with no TC.

 

[newmedia_dev]

This is helpful, especially for that double right hander that cause me grief. However 2 things;

1) the mucking about with gears mid corner is a bit mickey mouse isn't it, the car IRL would lose a box doing what these top guys do but he gets insane rotation by abusing the gears

2) I literally have zero clue how he exits so clean with TC off. He's not THAT careful with the throttle, the last right hander is super slippery and kind of awkward and he is laying on the gas way, way earlier and harder than I can with TC1. No idea how he does it and TBH this is where the aliens gain a lot of their time, they gun it out of slower corners with no TC.

You do abuse the gears in real life but agreed no where near as hard as in the game.

For 2 it's about how balanced the car is and there carried speed is higher or lower so the car sits in a sweet sport for putting down the torque, it's the main reason I spin is typically too much steering angle and hitting the wrong part of the power band.

I don't use TC and can be reasonably quick and not spinning at every corner etc it's just about being smooth.

 

[NevilleNobody]

it's about how balanced the car is and there carried speed is higher or lower so the car sits in a sweet sport for putting down the torque

This is my battle, I can't quite pull this off but it's like 2 seconds a lap if you get it right. My mid-corner speed is too low, causing wheel spin.

 

[newmedia_dev]

This is my battle, I can't quite pull this off but it's like 2 seconds a lap if you get it right. My mid-corner speed is too low, causing wheel spin.

Breaking a little earlier can help with this as you can coast in to the corner a bit faster and wait a fraction longer before starting to accelerate

 

[NevilleNobody]

Yeah doing that but bleeding too much time on entry and having to blip throttle to get to the apex, it's a feel thing and/or talent thing, will see which one over the coming months lol. The last corner is a revelation on a wheel, so awkward on a pad, can really attack it now rather than damn near stop, pivot and gas it out.

 

[Pepe62]

Not worried about results. I’m old guy. Former racer - motorcycle and cars. I play because I like it. And I have a son who play as well. I know my lines, I know racing ethics. I just throw my opinion out there …… View attachment 1424250

Oh, and not trying to be rude while you honestly wanna help, but I already have buttload of wins and podiums in Daily races and Nationals Exibitions ….. just saying 😉

 

[Famine]

I already have buttload of wins and podiums in Daily races and Nationals Exibitions

I’m D S. I just started

It's not exactly difficult to get a buttload of wins and podiums racing at Driver Rating D... just saying 😉

 

[newmedia_dev]

Yeah doing that but bleeding too much time on entry and having to blip throttle to get to the apex, it's a feel thing and/or talent thing, will see which one over the coming months lol. The last corner is a revelation on a wheel, so awkward on a pad, can really attack it now rather than damn near stop, pivot and gas it out.

Here is a lap of me in the 650S not going to set the world alight at 1.31:5 but it shows some of the techniques I was mentioning.

I use a wheel (DD Pro) and VR but the cockpit view in the replay will show how I'm steering relative to braking and throttle

Edit: I'm following the current no.4 so ignore why he is just running away 🤣

No TC, no driver aids, default ABS, BB -3 (Front)



@Pepe62

What is the metric value of a buttload?

 

[Pepe62]

It's not exactly difficult to get a buttload of wins and podiums racing at Driver Rating D...

Well, I’m over 60 and racing for only 2 weeks now. I have to work my way up. I understand that. But I don’t understand your comment ….. I was racing professionally in Europe on motorcycles and rally cars long time ago, and I started with ****** equipment . And I never heard from veterans racers who race in “ big boys divisions “ that “ is not that difficult to win if you racing in little boys division “. Simply because they went through same way to get to the top. It’s called “ RESPECT “ for accomplishment. Remember that. Maybe one day my words will help you 😏😉

 

[Famine]

But I don’t understand your comment

GT has a Driver Rating (DR) system. The more people you beat and the better they are, the more you rank up and race against people with higher ratings. DR is therefore an indicator of pace and ability.

Lobbies at Driver Rating D are comprised of drivers who are largely not fast. It is, therefore, not difficult to get lots of very high finishes if you are, in any way, capable.

It's not like the real world where drivers of all abilities race against each other in the same junior categories in a variety of quality equipment. DR D lobbies are full of people who are not that fast, or very inconsistent, or don't have that many races completed yet, or who have deliberately tanked their rating in order to race in slow lobbies to get loads of wins.

If you have a "buttload of wins" and you're still in DR D, it suggests that you're not doing it consistently, because your good results are being offset by bad ones.

You shouldn't be in DR D for any more than five races (after the initial five races at DR E) if you have some innate pace and consistency.

Maybe one day my words will help you

That seems unlikely. However mine ought to help you tone down what appears to be braggadocio.

Reset your opinions of yourself and of those trying to help you out - which is what this thread is for. The online world has far, far faster racers than you or I in it.


Incidentally, if you're over 60, why have you entered a birthdate for your GTPlanet account giving you an age of 44?

 

[Pepe62]

Here is a lap of me in the 650S not going to set the world alight at 1.31:5 but it shows some of the techniques I was mentioning.

I use a wheel (DD Pro) and VR but the cockpit view in the replay will show how I'm steering relative to braking and throttle

Edit: I'm following the current no.4 so ignore why he is just running away 🤣

No TC, no driver aids, default ABS



@Pepe62

What is the metric value of

Here is a lap of me in the 650S not going to set the world alight at 1.31:5 but it shows some of the techniques I was mentioning.

I use a wheel (DD Pro) and VR but the cockpit view in the replay will show how I'm steering relative to braking and throttle

Edit: I'm following the current no.4 so ignore why he is just running away 🤣

No TC, no driver aids, default ABS, BB -3 (Front)



@Pepe62

What is the metric value of a buttload?

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A buttload is a unit of
measurement that's roughly equivalent to 126 gallons. It's an old British term that was used to measure the volume of intoxicating beverages like beer, wine, and spirits.
So here is answer on your question. I hope that helps. 😏😉

 

[newmedia_dev]

So here is answer on your question. I hope that helps. 😏😉

Not really because I'm not sure how gallons relates to race wins or podiums? Maybe the link is just way more tenuous than I can comprehend?

So how relative is my buttload of wins and podiums to yours?

 

[Pepe62]

GT has a Driver Rating (DR) system. The more people you beat and the better they are, the more you rank up and race against people with higher ratings. DR is therefore an indicator of pace and ability.

Lobbies at Driver Rating D are comprised of drivers who are largely not fast. It is, therefore, not difficult to get lots of very high finishes if you are, in any way, capable.

It's not like the real world where drivers of all abilities race against each other in the same category. DR D lobbies are full of people who are not that fast, or very inconsistent, or don't have that many races completed yet, or who have deliberately tanked their rating in order to race in slow lobbies to get loads of wins.

If you have a "buttload of wins" and you're still in DR D, it suggests that you're not doing it consistently, because your good results are being offset by bad ones.

You shouldn't be in DR D for any more than five races (after the initial five races at DR E) if you have some innate pace and consistency.

That seems unlikely. However mine ought to help you tone down what appears to be braggadocio.

Reset your opinions of yourself and of those trying to help you out - which is what this thread is for. The online world has far, far faster racers than you or I in it.


Incidentally, if you're over 60, why have you entered a birthdate for your GTPlanet account giving you an age of 44?

I don’t think that GT7 works way you describe. If I should move from D to C in 5 races so why I’m still in D after winning 3 races in the row and other 2 I finish on podium. Your comments are not helpful. They are disrespectful. GT7 will constantly put me in race with C or even B drivers after my winning ( but they have B or C safety rating ) and they drive very dirty. On purpose. So my “ inconsistency “ is based on stupidity of the game and “ more consistent “ dirty drivers who don’t give a little rat ass about racing ethics. GT7 calls game “ Real driving simulator “ but there is nothing real about it. Sorry to not be geeky enough to apprise the game that cheats on drivers with high racing ethics.

Not really because I'm not sure how gallons relates to race wins or podiums? Maybe the link is just way more tenuous than I can comprehend?

So how relative is my buttload of wins and podiums to yours?

You don’t open Champagne after you win the race ???? 😂

 

[newmedia_dev]

You don’t open Champagne after you win the race ???? 😂

Fair point, but for playing for only a few weeks I don't think it's a stretch to say ive had more champagne or buttloads than you but I will concede that however tenuous buttload can be used as a race win value.

I'm not sure it will catch on as I cringed typing I've "had more buttloads than you"....

🤣

 

[Famine]

I don’t think that GT7 works way you describe.

It definitely does, and has since GT Sport's Beta in 2017. In fact we were just revisiting the maths of it a couple of pages back.

This is kinda my job.

GT7 will constantly put me in race with C or even B drivers after my winning ( but they have B or C safety rating ) and they drive very dirty. On purpose. So my “ inconsistency “ is based on stupidity of the game and “ more consistent “ dirty drivers who don’t give a little rat ass about racing ethics.

Yet other people can avoid these bad drivers - and they do exist - and progress through into higher-tier races.

Again, adjust your opinions of yourself and of those trying to help you out, rather than coming in with an attitude of how experienced a racer you are in the real world, and how many wins you have at literally the lowest level in the game, and it's everyone else who's an 8-12 year old kid on a controller cheating that's holding you back and not... something else.

You may learn a lot to help you out, get faster, and advance up the ranks to where you seem to think you should be.

 

[newmedia_dev]

This is kinda my job.

And we appreciate it! Well mostly

 

[Pepe62]

It definitely does, and has since GT Sport's Beta in 2017. In fact we were just revisiting the maths of it a couple of pages back.

This is kinda my job.

Yet other people can avoid these bad drivers - and they do exist - and progress through into higher-tier races.

Again, adjust your opinions of yourself and of those trying to help you out, rather than coming in with an attitude of how experienced a racer you are in the real world, and how many wins you have at literally the lowest level in the game, and it's everyone else who's an 8-12 year old kid on a controller cheating that's holding you back and not... something else.

You may learn a lot to help you out, get faster, and advance up the ranks to where you seem to think you should be.

So you must be Champion ….. with psychology degree. I’m sorry I didn’t notice 😂

Fair point, but for playing for only a few weeks I don't think it's a stretch to say ive had more champagne or buttloads than you but I will concede that however tenuous buttload can be used as a race win value.

I'm not sure it will catch on as I cringed typing I've "had more buttloads than you"....

🤣

Don’t be to serious. World and life is better with laughter 😉

 

[newmedia_dev]

So you must be Champion ….. with psychology degree. I’m sorry I didn’t notice 😂

Rein it in mate.

Edit: cross post.

Your humour is wearing thin, and offering less and less value to anyone reading.

 

[brockie]

Race A: Garage RCR Civic - 1:56.950 Steer, you bastard car! STEER!!

So this one had me again chuckling today, after I figured out where to buy the damn civic 😁 I got one livered up soda stream green and took it out,

Started a race and the up hill at T2 some chap randomly pulled to the side, hazards on and quit but it was enough for me to figure that this damn civic does suddenly just lose the ability to steer?!

So I quit out a there and watched tidges vid and when you learn to avoid the 3rd gear this little car can go some,

Got me a fairly respectable 1.56.xxx (got fairly close to @newmedia_dev 🤣)

And we go again tomorrow

 

[Famine]

So you must be Champion ….. with psychology degree. I’m sorry I didn’t notice 😂

Well, I have been to more Gran Turismo live events than all but a couple of players. But no, I'm just a journalist, and this is my specialism - and this is the site for which I write.

And my degrees are in molecular biology and human genetics.

As a reminder, here are your first three posts in which you claimed other drivers are kids and cheat track limits, and went on to boast about your lines and wins at DR D.

So I would like to add to discussion about GT7. I understand that game like this is for 8 - 12 years old mostly, and for a players who are playing with remote control not a wheel. But in my opinion is borderline stupid. For instance - In daily races you get 3 sec penalty for bump into the car who wash out on front of you and even you are Lewis or Verstapen, you can’t avoid collision. Car who washout and went off the track, easily catches up to you, even you running fastest laps. Then he gets you off the track without penalty and your race is over. In Race of the Nations - Exibition ….. I check video of best and fastest racer on the Red Bull track - if I drive on the track like him, I would get “ Track limits penalty all the time. He run over the line a lot. I mean “ A Lot “ !!!!! And that is how he get 4 sec better time than me.

Not worried about results. I’m old guy. Former racer - motorcycle and cars. I play because I like it. And I have a son who play as well. I know my lines, I know racing ethics. I just throw my opinion out there ……

Oh, and not trying to be rude while you honestly wanna help, but I already have buttload of wins and podiums in Daily races and Nationals Exibitions ….. just saying 😉

I'm just not sure what you're looking to get out of this if you're determined that everyone else is the problem...