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If it works like in GT Sport, it doesn't matter where you start or how many passes you do - all that matters is where you finish (and the DR of your competitors as @Sven Jurgens just pointed out above.)
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GT7 Daily Race Discussion
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- slyye23
You gain 80 +/- (DR difference/500) from every player you finish ahead off he said.
Even if you begin ahead of them ? oO
I thought you had to overtake, ok my bad.
Then, it's way easier if you begin 1st.
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Mini Stiggy
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What is your SR? I believe you have to be S to advance past DR B.Hey guys,
does someone know the algorithm behind the online races ?
I want to get to 'A' Rank but I seem to be blocked in races with only B drivers.
My times on Daily A : 1.08.5; Daily B : 1.33.9. Didn't yet try Daily C.
In Daily A i'm often in the first 3 and I finish also often in the first 3.
In Daily B i'm not good enough and i'm 5-9. I also often spin out in races then I quit 😅 Hard race. Maybe I should play this one with TC 1.
What I want to know is, is it only the time you do in qualification(so I have to get better and do better times) or you have to win races to get promoted ? What is taken into account ?
I didn't play GtSport btw so I don't know how it worked before.
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- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
Yep, it's a zero sum exchange between all players that entered the lobby.
If you get disconnected at any time after entering the lobby, before it says results saved, it will count you as finishing last and you give out points to all that finished and stayed connected until the results are finalized. Do not leave before the counter reaches zero!
Due to the way the system works it's easier to gain DR in lower SR. You are more likely to start near the front or on pole in lower SR and only have to maintain the position. You gain a lot more DR that way than starting in the back in SR.S and finishing mid field. Hence, it's rewarding to drive dirty. Either you ram your way to DR gain and get away with it, or you get to start at the front as 'punishment' for losing SR
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- slyye23
I was SR S but just now I just did 3 daily A races and now i'm SR B
Everyone drives kind of dirty in this race, wallriding at each corner so I just do the same. Most of the time you don't even get penalty so yeah... I think they need to fix this.This is also reason why I'm spinning out a lot in daily B, someone hitting me then it's over and I just exit race.
@Sven Jurgens, i'm not sure I understood. You say it's more rewarding to drive in lower SR which I get but don't you have to be SR S to get to DR A like mentionned above your post ?
Or is it that DR Points are kept in the game and still increases and then when you get back to SR S, if you have enough hidden DR points you will instantly get to DR A ?
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- SvennoJ
- SvenZ
If you exit the race, you give DR points to everyone that stays. It's better to stay and finish last than to quit. You lose SR for quitting, while if you stay you still get DR from those that DNF.I was SR S but just now I just did 3 daily A races and now i'm SR B
This is also reason why I'm spinning out a lot in daily B, someone hitting me then it's over and I just exit race.
@Sven Jurgens, i'm not sure I understood. You say it's more rewarding to drive in lower SR which I get but don't you have to be SR S to get to DR A like mentionned above your post ?
Or is it that DR Points are kept in the game and still increases and then when you get back to SR S, if you have enough hidden DR points you will instantly get to DR A ?
You need to be SR.A for the DR letter to advance to DR A. You still get the points, it just doesn't show the matching letter until you raise you SR. When the letter goes up one, you get 1,500 DR bonus. When the letter goes down one, you lose 1,500 extra DR. So you can have 41,000 DR at SR B, and it will show you as DR B (20,000 to 39,999 range). When you raise your SR to A, your DR letter will now show DR A, and you get an extra 1,500 DR.
Beware, if you lose too much SR your DR will be reset. However any SR below the top bracket in SR.S gives you easier competition. A quirk from matchmaking. Easier competition means finishing higher up. Although the DR in the room will likely be lower, in practice gaining DR from lower ranked players still amounts for more than losing less DR to higher ranked players.
Have a good quali time, avoid trouble and don't quit races. Forget about lower SR, it's a side effect of matchmaking which is the same as playing on PS4 vs PS5 (less competition on PS4, higher finish position) or play in off hours when less people are on. Of course if you're an alien (too fast for us mere mortals), you need to play in prime time on ps5 so there are points in the room to gain
Best thing to do is, don't quit and keep SR above C at all times (DR reset looming if too far down in SR C)
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I wish they would sort the matching out.
When it’s not prime time I often end up in races as just a DR harvest for folks who are a lot better than I am. I’m a C/S driver and in the past 24 hours I have had the same A+ guy in my lobby, on pole, at least 5 times.
In the same races (Race C) there are usually between 3 - 6 B drivers also much faster than I am.
I don’t massage my DR, seems pointless to me, and I’m not after easy wins. I just want to be matched with folks who have the same DR/SR as me. I have no clue why such a simple task can’t be done. 🤔
When it’s not prime time I often end up in races as just a DR harvest for folks who are a lot better than I am. I’m a C/S driver and in the past 24 hours I have had the same A+ guy in my lobby, on pole, at least 5 times.
In the same races (Race C) there are usually between 3 - 6 B drivers also much faster than I am.
I don’t massage my DR, seems pointless to me, and I’m not after easy wins. I just want to be matched with folks who have the same DR/SR as me. I have no clue why such a simple task can’t be done. 🤔
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Because there just aren’t enough players with SR S on at one time using the same console. I'm getting put with players with 60k more DR than me. Then it’s basically two separate races going on.
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- jdeviant1983
So we DID get multi-class racing after all
- 895
- Due West of Europe
It’s just plain wrong tho. It is just a DR donation exercise. I don’t have that much to start with and it feels like I’m scrabbling round for crumbs after the big dogs ate.
I understand what you are saying about the numbers but I would rather race against half a dozen folks at the same level than be frankly humiliated on a regular basis fighting to come 7th in a 15 car race.
I understand what you are saying about the numbers but I would rather race against half a dozen folks at the same level than be frankly humiliated on a regular basis fighting to come 7th in a 15 car race.
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- NRW - GT
I can see that getting mixed up with riders who have higher ratings is a concern, but don't just watch their rating, watch your time. So your qualifying and your times in the race. If you can keep your place in a strong field, that's usually worth more than winning in a weak field.
From my own experience I can only say, pay attention to your S, if it goes down too far you can lose everything you have achieved. I already felt this way in GTS and the calculation/scoring seems to be the same in GT7.
I dropped from almost 30,000 points in GTS when just ahead of DR. A to 5,000 points because my SR had dropped too much... Those points are lost even if you increase the SR again.
Ride cleanly and try at least to keep the place you had at the start then you will keep climbing, just consider that it can sometimes take quite a long time.
From my own experience I can only say, pay attention to your S, if it goes down too far you can lose everything you have achieved. I already felt this way in GTS and the calculation/scoring seems to be the same in GT7.
I dropped from almost 30,000 points in GTS when just ahead of DR. A to 5,000 points because my SR had dropped too much... Those points are lost even if you increase the SR again.
Ride cleanly and try at least to keep the place you had at the start then you will keep climbing, just consider that it can sometimes take quite a long time.
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- United Kingdom
My qualy time at race B sees me starting top 4 often but I don’t have the consistency to pull it off in race but I’m very happy to finish top 6 in some of the rooms. I had a tough run one day and lost a bit of SR and managed to get my first wins of GT7 because I was moved down the lobbies. I can’t get anywhere close to keeping up with the top guys let alone beat them. They’re literally gone after the senna s and I’m over a second off immediately. They’re just so much better at cutting corners than I am. Makes me laugh how outraged they all were at the Daytona bus stop cutters yet abuse the senna s every lap.
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What are you guys doing to drop your SR? I have had no issues keeping mine on S and I must have done over 20 daily races B. Sure I’ve been punted to death and sometimes I also get penalties for little bumps and going off track but I’d say as long as you be careful and don’t retaliate you’ll be fine.
This reminds me, yesterday I got an off track penalty for being punted off track lol.
This reminds me, yesterday I got an off track penalty for being punted off track lol.
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- Shottah072
Never quit a race if you care about your DR/SR. Even finishing last is better then quitting.Hey guys,
does someone know the algorithm behind the online races ?
I want to get to 'A' Rank but I seem to be blocked in races with only B drivers.
My times on Daily A : 1.08.5; Daily B : 1.33.9. Didn't yet try Daily C.
In Daily A i'm often in the first 3 and I finish also often in the first 3.
In Daily B i'm not good enough and i'm 5-9. I also often spin out in races then I quit 😅 Hard race. Maybe I should play this one with TC 1.
What I want to know is, is it only the time you do in qualification(so I have to get better and do better times) or you have to win races to get promoted ? What is taken into account ?
I didn't play GtSport btw so I don't know how it worked before.
- 1,121
- Austin, TX USA
- Winnie847
Ran my first daily races in GT7 this week at Autopolis and loved it. I’m not sure if it’s due to the new physics or my new tv with way less input lag or a combination of both, but I found a level of pace I don’t normally have relative to other players around my level. Managed a 1:53.4 qualy time which put me on pole for every race I entered but I think my race pace being pretty strong and consistent was what allowed me to get 13 wins this week.
Here’s the video of my first ever GT7 stream. Fastest in-race lap was a 1:54.5 and fastest total finishing time was a 19:11.2 which I’m still unsure how I pulled off. Both of those are the 5th race in the stream. Most of my other races were 19:13 to 19:16 except for the two races I pulled aside for at the start. But for this race in particular I was under pressure early from a real quick driver with a good Q time so speed and consistency were vital. Can’t wait for more dailies when I get the time!
Here’s the video of my first ever GT7 stream. Fastest in-race lap was a 1:54.5 and fastest total finishing time was a 19:11.2 which I’m still unsure how I pulled off. Both of those are the 5th race in the stream. Most of my other races were 19:13 to 19:16 except for the two races I pulled aside for at the start. But for this race in particular I was under pressure early from a real quick driver with a good Q time so speed and consistency were vital. Can’t wait for more dailies when I get the time!
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- United Kingdom
- jdeviant1983
Cut the curb completely on the first left and it's basically a straight line throttle down to turn 3 exit.
Shouldn't be but as long as it is that's the corner.
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- Winnie847
Ha! Good to see you too. I’m really not sure if I’m faster or if it’s just a combo that typically suits me. It could also be that a lot of people dislike Autopolis and/or were busy with Race B or the GTWS races which I ignored. I’ll find out for sure in the coming weeks I guess.Great. You're even faster now.
Good to see you.
This new tv really has me thinking though, because it seems like I can brake later than ever. Before the tv when I played GT7 I was getting this sensation where I would brake at the “normal” point but mid-braking I would feel like I braked too early so I would let up, only to miss the apex as if I’d braked too late. Then later I would try to adjust my braking point and then would be braking much too late. It’s like I couldn’t dial it in. With the new tv I’m not feeling that at all and seem to be able to brake on time almost every time without over or undershooting. I think in the past I underestimated the power of eliminating input lag.
I’d say as long as your playing on the same input lag you’ll adapt to the breaking points. However, everything that relies on reactions will change dramatically by reducing the input lag. This is specifically true when racing along side other cars or if you’re a drive by instinct kind of driver and not a methodical one.
It’s also a big boost to your confidence.
It’s also a big boost to your confidence.
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