GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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Next week is going to be different. Got your Silvias ready? Interesting to see what kind of lap times people pull off with their builds.
I hope I can make this one work:

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To the guy in the Viper I just raced against with the police livery: ACAB and so are you

Dude dive bombed me into Mulsanne Corner, I hit him mid corner because I was already turning into the apex when he showed up and there was no way I was going to be able to change my direction.

Then he got mad that I hit him mid corner and shoved me off the circuit and into the big black wall that juts out post corner.
Didn't wait, didn't give a rats ass.

I did watch the replay, several times, it was not my fault, dude just got butthurt. Honestly I'm not surprised, all the normal red flags were there in addition to the livery choice.

I got knocked down to last of 15, finished in the top 5 through pace, others deciding to wreck each other on Mulsanne straight, and, the most funny part, passing the guy who wrecked me because he failed to dive bomb someone else and ran so far off track the game reset his position. Get rekt.
 
Very up-and-down this week at Laguna. I finished with my DR exactly where I started. But it was hardly a straight line. And it would have been better, at least as far as my DR is concerned, if I hadn't raced today. Just didn't have it.
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Click the "Spoiler" to see individual race results. It's too long this week to just past in and take up space.
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Wow. That's a lot of races (50) this week. I guess I liked this track.
Just a question as the stats seem fairly straight forward for me, what stats would change things for your guys?
See above. Tracking progress with detailed numbers is helpful. My numbers are the bare minimum I'd want to have from the game. They shows trends, as well as what starting/ending positions I had, which may or may not relate to how my driving was affected. Virtually every serious competitive venture tracks stats, to help determine whether progress is being made or not.
but it's a fallacy in that you end up in rankings that you can't compete in.
A couple of weeks ago I finally made it to DR A. The A lobbies were much tougher, and I started towards the end of the pack, which can be harder in and of itself. As soon as I dropped back to B, I got much better results. And yes, my positions were related to my QT, but the fact is, higher DR almost always coincides with faster QT. Not always of course, but most of the time. In the end, I just couldn't compete at the A level. It's no fallacy, and I have no idea why you would think it was.
 
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Currently, you can only get stats for a fastest combined lap based on fastest sector times for an individual practice session once you exit that session. It would be nice if the game retained those sector times. It could then give me an overall best combined sectors time. Let's say I get a total of 1.20.888 at RBR one session. but I get a 1.20.766 in a second session. But the first and third sectors are so different that if the sessions were combined it could have been a 1.20.599. I would never know to aim for a 1.20.5 because I'm never presented with that information. Next session I land a 1.20.750 and decide thats the best I'll get... see now?

This is one of my most missed features from GT Sport, although someone on here said that it didn't used to work correctly.
 
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There's no real reason why they shouldn't be displaying more stats, saying it's not 'useful' is such a weird take.

Most people love info based around their performance, for one it would be cool to know which tracks I've performed best at with races entered and won, best qualifying laps etc. Would all be nice to have.

I can get why PD shut out Kudos, I don't support it but I get it from their perspective of wanted control over their product, but to not then offer a similar experience in the game itself is such a crappy move.

The data is all there, it just comes across as petty to not let us enjoy it.
 
Woah, 2 different things there mate

Persistent time trial vs what that means in laggy lobbies with vastly random ability and driving styles as is the way of "daily races"

My flippant and passing point was that you can't win all the races and no amount of sector times helps you in an actual race where braking points alter, traffic is around you and well PD lag. So just take what I asked in a friendly manner "what stats are you guys looking for" as exactly that. Anything else you read in to it is being overly defensive of a position I didn't challenge or question.

Go as fast as you can in each race, but remember it's not a time trial when there are 15 other variables on the track with you trying their hardest to be in the position you are.
Alright I take what you said in a friendly manner.

I get your point about the multiple factors thing but that doesnt negate the power that information provides. In my example, I'm talking about qualifying times. If the game retained all of my best sectors then maybe I would know to keep pushing for that extra 2 tenths. If I havent been presented with data that shows I CAN do 2 tenths better I may never try for it. 2 tenths on Pole could mean a LOT.

also, not being able to win every race is not the same as settling for a lower position which is what your comment appears to be suggesting as a positive thing to do. I just dont see that as being helpful to a bunch of people who are actively trying to compete but if that's not what you meant then okay, misunderatanding.
 
That’s fair, I was the pink car and closing fast at the first turn and realized I wasn’t gonna make it. I started braking before he closed the door on me. I’m still not sure he was actually taking a racing line tbh, looked like he would’ve cut the corner. Turn 2 was a clear punt by the other guy. Turn 3 I feel like was pretty similar to T1 just roles reversed, Al though he lets off the brakes to hit me.

I love Laguna but it isn't good racing for most GT style of driver. Lots of dirty air and people just barging through gaps that aren't there. I wish I could race it with people that have a bit more etiquette. I don't blame you necessarily either because people did it to me all the time and you eventually get fed up.
 
Kudosprime shows these stats for one of my accounts on GT Sport.

Races3684 | Finished: 3566 (3566*)
Performances62,229 (Top 1%) Graph Details
Sportmanship (SR)99/99 Graph Details
Wins537 (539*) | Daily: 535 / FIA: 2
Consecutive Clean Races22
Pole Position738 (730*) | Daily: 735 / FIA: 3
Leading Laps14.6% | Daily: 14.6% | FIA: 15.8%
Fastest Laps639
Current CarToyota FT-1 Vision Gran Turismo (Gr.3)
Distinct Days Driving884
Campaign School100 %
Campaign Circuit100 %
Campaign Mission100 %
Car(s)418
Car(s) bought206
Credits earned145,097,859 Graph Details
Mi earned653,795 Graph Details
Xp Level47 | 64% (176192 pts)
Distance driven147,170.000 Km Graph Details
Time driven45 days, 5 hours, 26 min and 0 s.
Drift Points1,024,986
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@Milouse pulls all of this data from PD. They have the info, but choose not to share it with us, which frustrates me very much.
They've hidden much of the data, so that even a genius like him can't access them.
I still don't understand the reasoning behind collecting our stats, without making them available to us.
Most important to me, is the SR number. It was very helpful to know if I was close to a reset. :irked:
 
There's no real reason why they shouldn't be displaying more stats, saying it's not 'useful' is such a weird take.

Most people love info based around their performance, for one it would be cool to know which tracks I've performed best at with races entered and won, best qualifying laps etc. Would all be nice to have.

I can get why PD shut out Kudos, I don't support it but I get it from their perspective of wanted control over their product, but to not then offer a similar experience in the game itself is such a crappy move.

The data is all there, it just comes across as petty to not let us enjoy it.
I used to be heavily into Magic: The Gathering and I was still following the competitive scene through friends when Wizards of the Coast announced that they would no longer be providing top decklists after events had finished so that "the metagame" couldn't be solved as fast. The problem is that the top players were already sharing lists between themselves so all WotC really did was shut out smaller groups/players from data collection.

I'm convinced that top drivers are still collecting and maintaining the data they have always had access to on their own, which is great and all us plebs can do that too, but there's no reason I can think of that PD wouldn't just provide your data to you, APIs are incredibly easy to build if all you're doing is displaying in-game data somewhere outside of the game. You can tie it into your PS login even like they do livery search on their website.

I can't search for a livery in game on their site without logging into it using my PS login. Providing splits, by track, car, etc, is all data they could fairly easily display, they just either don't want to or don't think it's wanted enough to have return on their investment.
 
Alright folks, I've finally figured out how to save, watch, and upload a replay. Take a gander at this and tell me whether or not I'm justified in calling the guy who beats me a nincompoop.



Here's how I see it/felt it while driving, and also there's some history here. He's bumped me out of the way a few times now including earlier on Lap 1 in this race when I had a run along side him into the Dunlop Esses before Tetre Rouge.

I have the lead going into Porsche Curves, he hits me from behind through Maison Blanche which is his preferred move to get you to run wide for the penalty. Into the very last chicane he dive bombs me after I've already started on turn in (best seen at the end with my bumper cam perspective) and then slams me on the exit of the last right hander getting me sideways over the curb and sliding towards the wall. His 4WD is the only reason he didn't spin out.

He bailed in post race immediately, which is also something he does. If I'm wrong to call him out I'll own that but I feel like this was slimy and purposeful.
 
Enjoyed Race C this week. My SR took a beating, sadly 😥

I managed 2 race wins and a fair few podiums in mainly B lobbies.

Really enjoying Sport.

458 Italia was me this week amongst the plethora of Veyrons.
 
Can you win the Sileighty or are players stuck without what looks to be the fastest car for race C for the whole week?
Used dealer only, I think.
It may turn up this week, but this is PD we’re talking about, pre-planning and common sense are absent.


Thoughts and prayers please. Going to try MT online for first time in the Mono race A.
 
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Here's my best lap and tune so far for the new Race C.

The west part of Suzuka I'm not good at, but I think the tune is good to start with. Stock engine, custom wing, wide wheels, body, roll cage and transmission flip for what isn't shown.
 
Deep forest in Gr 4 should be a good blast for a few runs but I can't see myself getting interested in the other two this week.

Ah well I'm on lates anyways.
 
Ok so I’ve seen a lot of negativity today from streams today about the daily races!

I will admit that Daily C this week is not my thing, as I don’t understand tuning and how these exploits work to get a crazy stupid fast car. But I do understand the need and why PD have given us a road car race for Daily C. They are people in this thread who I see post every week enjoying Daily A in the road cars that have suffer with short 7minutes races with no DR/SR. This then means you get people join this race just to have fun and don’t care if they crash, bash, or just act stupid as DR/SR is not effected. I saw a race the other week in the McLaren P1s at Monza where a group of friends join Daily A just wipe each other out yet you had others who were genuinely wanting to race.
To the people who are doing Daily C this week, all I have to say is have fun and enjoy it. The road cars are just as much part of this game as the race cars. If people want to just drive race cars they are other stuff you can do on this game or just play another racing game for a week.
 
Deep forest in Gr 4 should be a good blast for a few runs but I can't see myself getting interested in the other two this week.

Ah well I'm on lates anyways.
Agreed. I haven't even done one yet and I'm already bored with it. WRX fest again.

So much for Race C this week.

As soon as I hear "tuning", I'm out.
Ditto. I want to feel like I am racing other people and not other people's tune. Or, more specifically, my **** tune. Especially when like seven cars are involved. Am I supposed to tune each one, making small changes to each one in order to get a competitive combo? I ain't got time for that! So, I do what 99% of us do and go online, find someone else's tune, have no idea if it's good or not because it's tuned around their preferences and not mine (especially when glitches are involved), but not really know how to modify it to my own liking more than a could tweaks here-and-there which will knock off a whole .250" from my lap times, and then go for it. You can't even go onto other people's replays to see when they're braking, gear shifts, etc. because it's all setup differently.

I do realize some people like the tuning races and even though they're not for me, I am glad PD is trying something different this week. For those people, I really hope you enjoy this one as you've likely been asking for it for months!



On a completely unrelated note, PD not helping themselves by using the same track over-and-over. I don't have dates and such as I am not tracking this stuff, but all of these have happened within the last month or two:

Suzuka:
Daily C with Gr3 cars.
Then it was a Nations race with the Civic R.
Now it's this week's C again.

Nurb GP:
Last week's race C
TT in the Porsche Cayman
Manu race a few days ago

Road Atlanta:
Mazda Cup race C
RBR car TT
RBR Nations race
Manu Gr4 race
Daily B in Gr4

Even if I love the track, it's hard to not get burned out after all of these events at the same couple of places!
 
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