GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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Sport mode feels utterly joyless at the moment. Race C is off the cards. Staring at the fuel map not for me. Race B is just no fun really. My 2.04.3 qualy is good enough for 11th in a A/B room, so I’m already outmatched against 15 WRX. Since the physics update gr4 feels like Sport to me, if this holds true I’ll barely ever race gr4. there’s just penalties getting thrown around for nothing. T1 I get clearly brake checked, the WRX can brake way later than the atenza and I get 5 seconds for it. Race over. They need to shake it up. Even the streamers are barely pretending to like it. Super GT had a bit of a rant about the state of the game on his last stream and well deserved too.
 
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Sport mode feels utterly joyless at the moment. Race C is off the cards. Staring at the fuel map not for me. Race B is just no fun really. My 2.04.3 qualy is good enough for 11th in a A/B room, so I’m already outmatched against 15 WRX. Since the physics update gr4 feels like Sport to me, if this holds true I’ll barely ever race gr4. there’s just penalties getting thrown around for nothing. T1 I get clearly brake checked, the WRX can brake way later than the atenza and I get 5 seconds for it. Race over. They need to shake it up. Even the streamers are barely pretending to like it. Super GT had a bit of a rant about the state of the game on his last stream and well deserved too.
To be fair you are like me and a bit fussy. Not keen on fuel sipping, not keen on lasarthe on nordschlife etc, it makes it hard. Group 3 before the patch was REALLY good, not sure now, we will see. Group 4 the BOP is all over the place, the FR cars need help.
 
Sport mode feels utterly joyless at the moment. Race C is off the cards. Staring at the fuel map not for me. Race B is just no fun really. My 2.04.3 qualy is good enough for 11th in a A/B room, so I’m already outmatched against 15 WRX. Since the physics update gr4 feels like Sport to me, if this holds true I’ll barely ever race gr4. there’s just penalties getting thrown around for nothing. T1 I get clearly brake checked, the WRX can brake way later than the atenza and I get 5 seconds for it. Race over. They need to shake it up. Even the streamers are barely pretending to like it. Super GT had a bit of a rant about the state of the game on his last stream and well deserved too.
Ya, it is utterly joyless. I can't put my finger on it, but it's just....blah. Maybe it's because every race is a cup race of sorts. This week there is the actual cup race in Race A, The (may as well be a) Subaru Cup race for B, and the (may as well be) CLK cup race in C.

Maybe I'm rusty, or maybe GTS made me feel like I was a better player, but I don't pass anyone anymore. Maybe it's the lack of brake bias. Maybe it's less drafting. Maybe there was a boost in GTS. Maybe it's the side effect of so much parity. I can't put my finger on it. When I race, it just seems like a parade.

If Dailies were all shuffle races, I bet it would be more interesting.

And the payouts (sigh). What is the goal here? To make people play SP? To abandon MP altogether? Community is the lifeblood of a game, and they are sucking the life out of it. It's like they hate Sport Mode and online.
 
To be fair you are like me and a bit fussy. Not keen on fuel sipping, not keen on lasarthe on nordschlife etc, it makes it hard. Group 3 before the patch was REALLY good, not sure now, we will see. Group 4 the BOP is all over the place, the FR cars need help.
I agree with this. I really enjoy group 3 on Deep forest a few weeks ago. Probably the most races ive done total was that week
 
Ya, it is utterly joyless. I can't put my finger on it, but it's just....blah. Maybe it's because every race is a cup race of sorts. This week there is the actual cup race in Race A, The (may as well be a) Subaru Cup race for B, and the (may as well be) CLK cup race in C.

Maybe I'm rusty, or maybe GTS made me feel like I was a better player, but I don't pass anyone anymore. Maybe it's the lack of brake bias. Maybe it's less drafting. Maybe there was a boost in GTS. Maybe it's the side effect of so much parity. I can't put my finger on it. When I race, it just seems like a parade.

If Dailies were all shuffle races, I bet it would be more interesting.

And the payouts (sigh). What is the goal here? To make people play SP? To abandon MP altogether? Community is the lifeblood of a game, and they are sucking the life out of it. It's like they hate Sport Mode and online.
Group 3 at RBR last week was excellent, several cars were very competitive. WRX the favored machine but TBH it was by a bee's appendage. It's group 4 that i think is struggling and yeah way less of a draft for sure.
 
@kleefton I’ve not had any issues with the first chicane but the penalty system seems to have changed since yesterday. I’ve seen drivers include myself get penalties for unavoidable contact.

@xMAXIx79 when you hit Indianapolis the Merc then starts to lose out. I’ve found that you just need to follow the Merc and you can then out brake them into the first of the two chicanes. But then once you hit the Mulsame straight you get re pasted.


@NikNakTobasco @NevilleNobody @Voodoovaj agree with all of you. Daily races at the minute are just utterly pointless.
Did race B and it was full of WRX and a few Arenzas. My quali time is a 2.07.5 and I had to wrestle the car round to achieve this. In B/S I was P14 and got wiped out in the first corner, finished last as I couldn’t even catch up. Because of this result I dropped back to C/S but this was only good enough for P8 but as everyone had posted a similar lap times everyone was running round procession. I want to race with something other than the WRX or Atenza. If you do use something else just be prepared to run along at the back.

Jumped on Race C and I really like the Lexus RC F. Similar to GTR but I was able to go quicker in this car. Managed to set a faster quali lap in this then the CLK and GTR. Had a decent race mix 2 with half shifts for 3 laps and then mix 1 for the other 2 with a mix of half and full revs. Worked my way up to P4 from P12. Lap 4 I was on the back of a CLK and only 5 second behind P1. Through the Porsche curves the CLK goes wide, and I’m side by side and the chicane is my corner, but the CLK doesn’t back out, skips over the 1st chicane and then at the 2nd chicane I leave space but the CLK jumps over the red sausage pushes me wide and I put a wheel on the gravel. I start to spin which means the car behind hits me, send him into the pit wall, and out the race pretty much. I get a 5 sec for causing a collision yet the CLK that started all gets away with 0.500 penalty for running wide a few corners back.

Loving the Lexus RC F. Was the only one racing it, so felt good when I was able to challenge the top people.
 
I initially had a really good impression of online racing in GT7 with like 20 clean races in a row. And this was on the unforgiving Tokyo Expressway with hard competition.

Well, this seems to have turned completely, as if the universe wanted to balance itself out. I don’t think I’ve had a clean race for 10 races now. It’s just an absolute mayhem down in turn one where the grid gets reversed because of everyone just crashing into the top drivers. There’s so many red penalty signs on-screen that you can barely keep count. And if you’re the unlucky driver who was dropped from first to last then good luck overtaking the bottom drivers. Their driving behaviour is so irratic and unpredictable that you will go crosseyed from just following their movements.

Maybe this is just the Laguna Seca race though because that’s where I’m having all the bad luck. I just knew that I was in for something special when I saw that it had a grid start.
 
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To be fair you are like me and a bit fussy
Yeah; I am a fussy git!
Maybe I'm rusty, or maybe GTS made me feel like I was a better player, but I don't pass anyone anymore. Maybe it's the lack of brake bias. Maybe it's less drafting. Maybe there was a boost in GTS. Maybe it's the side effect of so much parity. I can't put my finger on it. When I race, it just seems like a parade.
This captures my mood at the moment. Either everyone has got better or I’ve got worse. But the last couple of weeks have been torrid. I’ve come last more times than I can count, never go forward, only backwards. Probably why I’m not enjoying it recently.
agree with this. I really enjoy group 3 on Deep forest a few weeks ago. Probably the most races ive done total was that week
There’s been some better weeks. It peaked week 1 at Daytona Race C and all Race C’s since have been bad for me. I’ve had some nice race B’s. Deep forest was fun but prone to wrongly attributed penalties, interlagos is always a banker, if a little uninspired.

I think I’m just getting frustrated by usually being the at the back of the grid. I’m putting in what I think would be decent qual time but rarely start top 10. Dropping down a level or two would perhaps make it more fun as I might be in some races then.
 
I think I’m just getting frustrated by usually being the at the back of the grid. I’m putting in what I think would be decent qual time but rarely start top 10. Dropping down a level or two would perhaps make it more fun as I might be in some races then.
I had the same issue when SPORT took away penalties and my SR remained glued to 99. I was often in the top split, if not the second split, so basically always against A+ and A drivers, i'll qualify 13th, race to 8th or 9th at best. Even great racing wears thin if it is 78th race in a row with no legit chance to even podium. It is starting to happen again in GT7 too.

The only solution is to drop your SR, literally that is the fix.
 
I had the same issue when SPORT took away penalties and my SR remained glued to 99. I was often in the top split, if not the second split, so basically always against A+ and A drivers, i'll qualify 13th, race to 8th or 9th at best. Even great racing wears thin if it is 78th race in a row with no legit chance to even podium. It is starting to happen again in GT7 too.

The only solution is to drop your SR, literally that is the fix.
I’m into A/B lobbies now so I’m guessing I’ll be back to DR B soon. But then What? maybe I’ll have a couple of decent races and round we go again! I would say more daily choices would help, but from what I’ve seen there’s literally about 50 people within 10k DR points either way of me playing online at any one time. I don’t get where everyone has gone. I know it’s ps5 only but still….
I’ve been racing in some lobbies and had some great races and some stinkers too. The low stakes nature of it does make a difference but it can be enjoyable.
 
There's your answer, the ps4/5 split is tough. There's no real answer to it for PD, it is what it is, i see no reason to get a PS5 for now. If i do, i will wait for the mid cycle refresh. I suspect more people have the game on PS4.

I gotta watch my spending anyways, just bought a 911 so the wife will be watching my discretionary splurges.
 
Either everyone has got better or I’ve got worse. But the last couple of weeks have been torrid. I’ve come last more times than I can count, never go forward, only backwards
I said exactly the same thing a few weeks ago! I raced in the dailies nearly every day in GT Sport, but have given up completely now in GT7.

My QTs have put me last of the qualifiers in every race I've tried, and I've finished every race last. I'm at a loss to know what's changed 🤔

Don't know what I'll do when I've finished all the missions, circuit experience etc....
 
The times seem REALLY fast in europe. I seem to be starting about where NIKNAK is yet I am a SOLID second a lap slower. I think with the looser rear end it has widened the gap between the good and the great TBH. Not sure how things are with the new patch but previously, even TC1 just kills your lap times.
 
This. Just give me a free change of oil at the start of each race and you can keep the credits. Heck, I’ll even pay for the oil, just don’t make me go to the gt auto.
I did race C last week, and drove the RCZ and nothing else. I changed oil every 2 races or so, and by Sunday morning my engine was "normal." Cost $100,000 for engine overhaul. I had done a couple engine overhauls during the week, so not sure how many races it takes to trigger this. I did actually make some decent money though last week, and yeah, I wish you could just change oil from the Sport menus.
 
Well this is a depressing read lol. I haven't played in a few weeks now but was thinking of trying it again with new physics and rent-a-car. I'm having a blast in iRacing though so maybe I shouldn't split my time. Dunno. I'm keen to try it again though. Might do a few races tonight.

Sounds like some of you need to find more time to qualify better.
 
Race A has been fun but kind of annoying for me so far this week. Constantly 2nd or 3rd never 1st. Still as long as you hog the inside at the first corner you'll most likely keep your position and not get bumped. Race B is ok but it feels like a qualifying battle - gap between drivers is too much and you end up always finishing in the same place as you start. First post as well on this forum; I've been meaning to join for a while now and have finally done so!
 
Yeah; I am a fussy git!

This captures my mood at the moment. Either everyone has got better or I’ve got worse. But the last couple of weeks have been torrid. I’ve come last more times than I can count, never go forward, only backwards. Probably why I’m not enjoying it recently.

There’s been some better weeks. It peaked week 1 at Daytona Race C and all Race C’s since have been bad for me. I’ve had some nice race B’s. Deep forest was fun but prone to wrongly attributed penalties, interlagos is always a banker, if a little uninspired.

I think I’m just getting frustrated by usually being the at the back of the grid. I’m putting in what I think would be decent qual time but rarely start top 10. Dropping down a level or two would perhaps make it more fun as I might be in some races then.
Yeah, I can be fussy too when I lose. But that would be typical for anyone. We're all human, not robotic. Except the GT aliens.
 
Race A has been fun but kind of annoying for me so far this week. Constantly 2nd or 3rd never 1st. Still as long as you hog the inside at the first corner you'll most likely keep your position and not get bumped. Race B is ok but it feels like a qualifying battle - gap between drivers is too much and you end up always finishing in the same place as you start. First post as well on this forum; I've been meaning to join for a while now and have finally done so!
I did this race today too. I started 4th and although the first corner was a little scrappy with everyone fighting for position I managed to cleanly make a place to third. Heading to the Corkscrew I got to 2nd only to be blatantly punted off and get pushed to the back. I was frustrated way too much from it
 
Just won a Race C with the Nissan Super GT car!

The Mercedes kills it down the straights but my word is the Nissan SO much faster through the fast sweeping corners at the start and towards the end of the lap.

I no stopped using fuel map 3 all race, and pretty much everyone else stopped which helped too.

It's a fun combo of straightline speed vs cornering ability, but so often gets spoiled with bizarre time penalties for people. The system for giving them out seems worse than GT Sport ever was. :dunce:
 
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This is what I was talking about. How is this a penalty? I went in there carefully to make sure I stayed away from the curbs as much as possible and I still get penalized. This happens randomly lap after lap. Impossible to race in such conditions.

 
This is what I was talking about. How is this a penalty? I went in there carefully to make sure I stayed away from the curbs as much as possible and I still get penalized. This happens randomly lap after lap. Impossible to race in such conditions.


You are too far to the left at the entrance to the chicane, if I understand correctly.. the line on the left marks the outer boundary of the track, you have to see these lines on the track as if they were curbs.
Try to drive on these lines with a maximum of 50% of your car, so you have enough safety distance for the unforeseen.
 
This is what I was talking about. How is this a penalty? I went in there carefully to make sure I stayed away from the curbs as much as possible and I still get penalized. This happens randomly lap after lap. Impossible to race in such conditions.



Are you being penalised for being too wide on entry?

I haven't done Race C, but when completing the circuit experience the dotted white line on the left side of track is considered the track limit and you're instantly failed for crossing it.
 
This is what I was talking about. How is this a penalty? I went in there carefully to make sure I stayed away from the curbs as much as possible and I still get penalized. This happens randomly lap after lap. Impossible to race in such conditions.


As the other 2 said, you went off the track before the corner, look at the radar; you are outside the track. The corner looks perfect but the penalty is shown a bit after you get it. Would be better if there was a flag or indicator of when you got the penalty which would help people drive cleaner thus improving the game.

Editted to add screenshot of penalty (I think that's when you got it)
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