GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Voodoovaj]

I think I just enjoy the driving more than the racing now.

Wall bumps this, rammed that, gaps that aren’t there until you crow bar them
Open.

Yeah, im absolutely happy in myself racing ghosts or chasing TT times. The less time I spend with idiots the happier I am. That’s US/EMEA accounts.

Add to that the new Sophy custom races. I do a few of them a week now.

I'm sticking to Race B this week. I have a decent Q time and I think I can keep it in the top five each race. I think people are struggling with the extreme brake balance now. I'm running +5 on the 458

 

[Stilva]

I'm not sold on Race C yet. The racing is tight, but I am not good at the track. I really need to hit my apexes, but I cannot for the life of me. I still managed a 2:29 flat quick time even with my terrible lines in the Vantage. In my two races this evening I stated in the top 5 for each, but my position slid down the grid. I did murder 2 cars in the first race as it turns out going side by side in the esses is a bad idea. I also accidentally punted another driver as I missed my brake point and ran directly into them. Race 2 I was leading at one point, but still fell down the field throughout the race.

I'll see if any of the cars suit my driving style but I'm not sure I'll go again. Maybe when I can get some consistent lines in the sweepers I'll jump back in.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Tough going in race C. Made mistakes in the first race and and was turned around in the second. I am missing half a second of pace both in qualy and in race, I just cannot get the car turned in as others can seemingly do.

Had the mother of all battles for last place, will post it tomorrow. Meanwhile, found a great livery for my Jag, the TWR 1985 Bathurst winning XJ livery. Classic.

 

[brockie]

I think I just enjoy the driving more than the racing now.

Wall bumps this, rammed that, gaps that aren’t there until you crow bar them
Open.

Yeah, im absolutely happy in myself racing ghosts or chasing TT times. The less time I spend with idiots the happier I am. That’s US/EMEA accounts.

I think it goes in waves, last week for me was a funny one, got abit sweaty here and there, but the weekend racing was top notch and enjoyable and some wins come and that’s ultimately the goal.

This week just doesn’t offer me personally anything, don’t like Nurburgring much, C is too long, A is just a car crash, just on to next week.

I brought myself a ps portal and I’m enjoying car collecting and doing all the single player racing which I never got around to completing

 

[TheNormsk]

I did a bit of a QT session for daily race C. Like many others I found the Jaguar better than the Vantage. However, one thing I find with this one is that the quick laps only come on the out lap, after that the time drops off sharply. This is consistent.

So I’m guessing the tires are overheating and they’re just perfect on the first lap being cold. My question is this. Might I expect a similar degradation of performance during the race? How does this car react over the full daily race?

Edit.
The time was good enough for a P2 at the start but little good it did me. Some door banging by P3 behind me and lunging and then me getting squiggly and losing it put me down to 15th by the end of the first lap. I never regained better than 14th where I finished. ☹️

I like the track for a time trial circuit. In fact, I really kinda love the track. But I’m not sure about racing on it.

 

[Tuono_GT]

Great to see a new layout being used (race C) but all those hairpins just invite stupidity and carnage. For me.., Not a weekly race to really enjoy.

 

[NevilleNobody]

I did a bit of a QT session for daily race C. Like many others I found the Jaguar better than the Vantage. However, one thing I find with this one is that the quick lapse only come on the out lap, after that the time drops off sharply. This is consistent.

So I’m guessing the tires are overheating and they’re just perfect on the first lap being cold. My question is this. Might I expect a similar degradation of performance during the race? How does this car react over the full daily race?

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The time was good enough for a P2 at the start but little good it did me. Some door banging by P3 behind me and lunging and then me getting squiggly and losing it put me down to 15th by the end of the first lap. I never regained better than 14th where I finished. ☹️

I like the track for a time trial circuit. In fact, I really kinda love the track. But I’m not sure about racing on it.

The right front takes an absolute beating and if you are correct it is super annoying that we have to reset after every lap in qualifying. In race you do feel that right front. Racing is good once you get past the first lap, it can be tough sledding into the right hander where you switch tracks. Get through that and it should be good racing but there's nowhere to hide, if you are slow, as i am, you get found out.

 

[Darken Azriel]

I did a bit of a QT session for daily race C. Like many others I found the Jaguar better than the Vantage. However, one thing I find with this one is that the quick lapse only come on the out lap, after that the time drops off sharply. This is consistent.

Exactly this. Banger first lap and then falls right off a cliff. In race I found the jag to be inconsistent compared to the vantage.

 

[sturk0167]

The right front takes an absolute beating

The rear-wheel drive cars may still be the best option, even if all-wheel drive cars were allowed.
I could imagine the AWD cars severely destroying their front tires in this race.

 

[Childe Roland]

I did a bit of a QT session for daily race C. Like many others I found the Jaguar better than the Vantage. However, one thing I find with this one is that the quick lapse only come on the out lap, after that the time drops off sharply. This is consistent.

I didnt notice that but now that you say it I think it makes sense.

Yesterday I tried the Jag and on the first lap I shaved 0.5 secs of my lap with the Vantage.
My first thought was, "OMG Im so much faster with the Jag" but I couldnt match that pace on the rest of the session (4 or 5 laps)

So I’m guessing the tires are overheating and they’re just perfect on the first lap being cold. My question is this. Might I expect a similar degradation of performance during the race? How does this car react over the full daily race?

My suggestion is to set BB to +5 because the fronts suffers a lot.
Pit window between lap 3 and 5 and you are fine.

Edit: dont try the no tyre change strat! you will crawl the last 2 laps (ask me how I know )

 

[TheNormsk]

I didnt notice that but now that you say it I think it makes sense.

Yesterday I tried the Jag and on the first lap I shaved 0.5 secs of my lap with the Vantage.
My first thought was, "OMG Im so much faster with the Jag" but I couldnt match that pace on the rest of the session (4 or 5 laps)

My suggestion is to set BB to +5 because the fronts suffers a lot.
Pit window between lap 3 and 5 and you are fine.

Edit: dont try the no tyre change strat! you will crawl the last 2 laps (ask me how I know )

After getting banged down to 15th on first lap I pitted then, with no tire change. I ran BB at 0 until about lap 4 at which point I put it to +1. Finished with about 2/3rds wear on the right front so wasn't horrible but I came in 14th (not helped by two other off track endeavors) so not sure it helped or made my driving worse.

 

[Voodoovaj]

After getting banged down to 15th on first lap I pitted then, with no tire change. I ran BB at 0 until about lap 4 at which point I put it to +1. Finished with about 2/3rds wear on the right front so wasn't horrible but I came in 14th (not helped by two other off track endeavors) so not sure it helped or made my driving worse.

I find that BB +3 to +5 is necessary on nearly everything now.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I find that BB +3 to +5 is necessary on nearly everything now.

Is that forward or aft ward?

 

[TheNormsk]

Is that forward or aft ward?

Shouldn't the rear be ass-ward?

As far as the system is concern - is to the front and + is to the rear. What people put is 🤷‍♂️

 

[newmedia_dev]

As far as the system is concern - is to the front and + is to the rear. What people put is 🤷‍♂️

I mean to the front would be adding more and to the back taking away from the front? 🤷‍♂️

This stuff is cray cray…

 

[Goanaut]

Just turned a daily race C pole position into a P5. Was battling for the lead for some laps, but I got sloppy towards the end. I lost a lot of time in the looong left hander at the end of the miyabi section. Watched a replay from a top time, and tried another race. This time I converted a P6 start into a podium! Was much more consistent in the left sweeper and could even slowly drive away from the people behind me. Conclusion: if you're not bumped off at one of the hairpins it's a very fun race!

 

[Voodoovaj]

Is that forward or aft ward?

Aft. Forward bias is negative

So, 3 to 5 clicks to the right of the gauge

 

[newmedia_dev]

Aft. Forward bias is negative

So, 3 to 5 clicks to the right of the gauge

I’m confused. Honestly I have no idea.

Number 17 in the world says forward (not aft) I run my BB as far forward as I can, see my previous posts.

I’m in there too 500/800? In all the races and top 400 for the TT at big willow?

 

[Sum1s2pid]

Shaved my S15's Race C QT by a few tenths, down to a 2:28.527. The races I've seen look pretty hectic. Let's do it anyway!

Race 1: Started P6. First lap traffic was too crazy, so I went for the no tires undercut at the end of the lap. Costly solo spins going up the esses on Laps 2 and 5 dropped me down to last place. Somehow finished P10.

Race 2: Started P5. Went for the no tires undercut at the end of Lap 2. Lost some time battling two Astons, but it was fun, so no worries. Only managed to pass one. Finished P6.

Race 3: Started P7. Did the no tires undercut at the end of Lap 1. Smacked the barrier going up the esses on the final lap, and lost a position. Finished P7.

Race 4: Started P4. Screwed up a great start when I nearly murdered an Aston at the second to last hairpin on Lap 1. Went in for the no tires undercut at the end of the lap in last place. Salvaged P8.

Race 5: Started P9. Got a slight bump coming out of the first hairpin on Lap 1 and looped her around. Did the no tires stop at the end of lap again, and came out in last place again. Finished P8.

The racing was mostly respectful. The S15 gets decent standing starts, is good on tires, and handles well. My pace with it was pretty competitive once I got settled in. Finishing all five races P10 or better feels good after a long break. I want more!

 

[daan]

Just done my first race C of the week. Gave the Beechdean Aston a run out. Started about 12th or so and was hit off the track at the last chicane, so pitted for no tyres at the end of lap 1. Thought I'd get a bit of running with no traffic but there was a couple of cars joined me and they came out with me, and it seemed that every time we passed the pits, another guy would come out in front. Anyway, had a good race with a couple of guys (Cassini and Ayrton's brother Adrian Senna) and made my way up to 6th. Quite a tense, action packed but enjoyable race.

 

[Voodoovaj]

I’m confused. Honestly I have no idea.

Number 17 in the world says forward (not aft) I run my BB as far forward as I can, see my previous posts.

I’m in there too 500/800? In all the races and top 400 for the TT at big willow?

Maybe it's different on a wheel. If I go full forward, I can't get the car to rotate. Full forward should give you much better exit acceleration, but since I'm on a controller, and the controller steers slow, I need the rear to rotate.

My exit speed is irrelevant if I'm not pointing in the right direction.

I used to favour forward bias, like -2 or -3. I liked a lot of front brake, and then bleed off the brake as I turn. But since few updates back, the cars won't turn.

 

[newmedia_dev]

If I go full forward, I can't get the car to rotate.

This is something I hear loads on streams and videos.

Firstly cars don’t “rotate” they turn and pivot. Have no idea where rotating has replaced turning or pivoting on an axis but hey ho.

Back to the main point, the brake balance can literally be anything you want, try it. It’s the braking style that is the difference.

 

[Voodoovaj]

This is something I hear loads on streams and videos.

Firstly cars don’t “rotate” they turn and pivot. Have no idea where rotating has replaced turning or pivoting on an axis but hey ho.

Back to the main point, the brake balance can literally be anything you want, try it. It’s the braking style that is the difference.

Ok, well, on the controller, the steering is slow, so the car turns slowly. Having a loose rear helps.

That said, I am trying - 5 right now and I can't feel the difference between - 5 and +5...so maybe it's broken. All I know is that 0 is slow.

Edit: Ok, I can feel the difference. As expected, the braking needs to happen a little earlier with the BB all the way to the front, but you get less wheelspin. With BB all the way to the back, I can brake later and turn with the throttle. To each his own, but I'm faster with BB set all the way to the back.

 

[Famine]

Firstly cars don’t “rotate” they turn and pivot. Have no idea where rotating has replaced turning or pivoting on an axis but hey ho.

It's very much a valid term in automotive (and vehicular) engineering for turning around an axis (pivot is more a point of rotation than an axis, although it really describes the interaction between fulcrum and lever), and nowhere near as recently as streamers.

A car rotates around its z-axis (yaw), and while it also rotates around its x-axis (roll) and y-axis (pitch), "rotation" generally refers to yaw in the automotive world because it's the only one you can directly control to the full 360 degrees (the other two are bad when you start reaching 30+) - but is also often used for y-axis in aircraft, particularly in the take-off phase where there is quite literally a point called "rotation", at which the aircraft is moving quickly enough to pitch up and lift the nosewheel off the ground.


In other news, I've always felt that the dial for brake balance in GTS/7 is the wrong way about. Counterclockwise feels like it should be forward, and clockwise feels like it should be backward to me, but it isn't. Maybe it's a left-handedness thing.