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This is the alleged list of recent scans done by PD taken from the video
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some of it seems legit , like the leaker predicted the 2019 DTM Audi car
This just looks like a wishlist made by someone who's obsessed with Sport mode and driving the same Gr.3 car around the same track for a week straight.

And either way, scanning doesn't mean they'll add the cars anytime soon. Just look what happened with the alleged Fiat Coupe and Avantime scans.
 
This just looks like a wishlist made by someone who's obsessed with Sport mode and driving the same Gr.3 car around the same track for a week straight.

And either way, scanning doesn't mean they'll add the cars anytime soon. Just look what happened with the alleged Fiat Coupe and Avantime scans.
Could be older, it could have been the Hyundai Veloster or the 2012 Prius GT300.
 
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I am immensely sceptical of that list. That's already more race cars than have been added so far in updates, and the PD we know would not skew that modern or that "themed", for lack of a better word.

However, the TS010 in particular would be funny because people would absolutely complain that it wasn't the 88C-V.
 
I am immensely sceptical of that list. That's already more race cars than have been added so far in updates, and the PD we know would not skew that modern or that "themed", for lack of a better word.

However, the TS010 in particular would be funny because people would absolutely complain that it wasn't the 88C-V.
I could be wrong but I don't even think the 88C-V exists in the same config/look as GT4-GT6 anymore, not that it would matter as they could 'make up' a model similar to what they did for the Escudo as that apparently is not longer the same car as what's in GT7.

I was wrong apparently it still exists but was being completely restored in 2018 at TRD
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I still wouldn't mind the TS010 but I would rather see the TS020 personally and still have a small hope to see it in the next update hopefully as PD tends to add Nostalgic cars every once in awhile.
 
Considering their have only been a few race cars added in updates, that list dosen’t seem to be legit, their is no road cars even on that list, and like 80% of cars is going to keep being roadcars in updates would be my guess
 
This is the alleged list of recent scans done by PD taken from the video
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some of it seems legit , like the leaker predicted the 2019 DTM Audi car
This is obvious nonsense lol, if it was any leak with credibility you'd see weird stuff like the Alphard or Citroen DS in there, not a bunch of obvious Sport Mode wishlist bait.
 
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This is the alleged list of recent scans done by PD taken from the video
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some of it seems legit , like the leaker predicted the 2019 DTM Audi car
This is too good to be true. Or rather, it's a perfect list for anyone who likes racing cars.

I am forced not to believe. Over time, PD has forced me to adhere to the Worst-case Scenario Theory when it comes to Gran Turismo updates.
 
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This is too good to be true. Or rather, it's a perfect list for anyone who likes racing cars.

I am forced not to believe. Over time, PD has forced me to adhere to the Worst-case Scenario Theory when it comes to Gran Turismo updates.
Unlucky for you you've opted to play a racing game that has more than just racing cars in it then. If only there were other racing games dedicated to racing cars.
 
This is the alleged list of recent scans done by PD taken from the video
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some of it seems legit , like the leaker predicted the 2019 DTM Audi car
Nah, this sounds waaaaaay too good to be true. Like, all of these cars are great for the series.
Plus, only race cars? Nah... I'd need the code to make it seem more legit.
However, the TS010 in particular would be funny because people would absolutely complain that it wasn't the 88C-V.
... ??? Are you sure about that?

I mean, if you are only a Gran Turismo fan and not a Motorsport fan above it, then yeah, the Nostalgia the 88C-V brings is undeniable, but, in terms of racing history and significance, the TS010 is a far interesting, and also well known.
Actually, is there any game that has the TS010 in it? The car is immensely underrated for some reason.

It was the only car that gave the 905 a "fight" in 1992 and 1993. The dowforce of the Prototype was like nothing ever seen at that time, it was so huge that 2 of its drivers broke ribs driving it.
They had to nerf it because of that (and to meet regulations) but it was still an incredibly well designed car, this car, in 1992, is more aero efficient than a Porsche 919 Hybrid... A marvel by Tony Southgate. A looker of a racing car as well, I can see some of it's lines carried into the TS020 (aka. GT-One).

It still baffles my mind how this car lost so badly to the Peugeot 905 despite being more aero efficient and having more downforce in general. But I hear rumours (are they?) that the 905 had about a 50 HP advantage. Which can explain why it was able to beat it.


I'd jump with joy if the TS010 is ever added to the game. In particular the one with the White/Blue Casio livery.

And then there's that V10 sound:




Here's a rather funny video with it as well:

 
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That list does sound like good to be true not going to lie , but this list is just recent scans they made , it doesn't mean all these cars will appear in the next update , few of them maybe in GT7's cycle but most of it should be in next GT

as for why only racing cars? i don't know
 
That list does sound like good to be true not going to lie , but this list is just recent scans they made
But from where is that sourced? PD doesn't make a habit of telling people what cars it's scanned, and the information only comes to light when over-excited people or specialists talk openly about it - and they commonly don't know one game from another.

The one that makes me immediately suspect the entire thing is fake is the BTCC Corolla. Motorsport Games - still, somehow, despite doing exactly what BTCC didn't want - has the exclusive licence to BTCC, so why would PD waste time sending a team to laser scan/dragging the car to one of its audio scanning facilities when it cannot possibly licence it?

Smells like clickbait.
 
I don't have any information, this is only my opinion about this list. To me it's fake, or at least totally unrealistic guesses. I'm only seeing the one in bold to be realistic (5/all)

-2020 GT500 : We've got 08' and 16' one, so maybe...
-Mazda RTP24 : An LMP2 from 17', even if it's a Mazda, I don't know, I don't see this one to be added.
-Do we have any GTE cars in the game? I don't think they gonna add some anyway.
-488 GT3 and M4 GT3 : PD added a few GT3 already, and this seems a realistic add, considering the Ferrari and BMW roaster is old, maybe the 2020 one (like the AMG GT)?
-C8R : Licensing issue with Corvette Race cars. Seems unrealistic guess
-2019 DTM : We now have the Audi, but when the list got created? Before of after the Audi add?
-TS020 : Seems "obvious" it's getting added sometimes.
-Yaris WRC and BTCC Corolla "PD loves Toyota, those are cool cars, they gonna add these" : Don't think so...
-Handful TCR cars : Yeah right, PD will add the "handful" from a totally new category (seems random and fake) in the same time, yeah don't think so again.
-963 LMDh Porsche : It's probably a guess, but at least this one seems realistic. Close relation with Porsche, a new area of LMP... But I don't think we would see it before a few months/years...
-992 GT Cup and the GT3? Both added? Maybe one at most, and to me, the 963 have higher chance... I don't see these
-2022 Z GT500 : PD like to add 3 GT500 from the same year... So to me 2020 have higher chance
-Aussie V8 and Nascar : I would be shocked to see these added.
 
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911 RSR and 2018 Ford GT (plus the GR Supra RC, which while was only a static concept was explicitly built for that regulations).
You are right, my bad. The Vantage and M8 GTE aren't that off then, maybe the 18' specs? (like the Ford GT)
 
You're correct, I thought it was there when the chicanes were introduced.

But... this just further proves my stance, because with the chicane, the track became slower, yet the 1999 GT-One still posted a faster time than the Mercedes C11 which is the fastest Gr. C car, not counting the 3.5l V10 Gr. Cs, those were a different breed.

So it's factually faster than Gr. C cars and thus, faster than Gr.1 cars in GT1.

My dude, lap times don't lie... On the same layout and similar ambient conditions (no rain):

Qualifying results:
1999 Toyota GT-ONE - 3:29.930
1998 Toyota GT-ONE - 3:36.552

6.6 seconds difference. This is an insane difference even in La Sarthe.

And this difference applies in the race fastest lap times as well:

Fastest laps:
1999 Toyota GT-ONE - 3:35.052 (which is faster than the 1998 Qualifying pole of the CLK-LM of 3:35.544)
1998 Toyota GT-ONE - 3:41.809

Another 6.7 seconds difference...


Given the fact that both the 1998 and 1999 versions have minimal differences in terms of aero (unless there's a drastic change in the ground floor which I never heard of) and the fact that La Sarthe is pretty much a power hungry circuit where most of the lap time is on the straights, there has to be a difference in horsepower between them.

So PD back then when they made GT2 (which was in 1998-1999 btw), they probably got those figures from Toyota themselves, they were licensed cars after all so they are probably correct. It also supports that the horsepower difference (about 100hp more) would create that near 7s difference in lap time...


So yes:

1999 = Gr.1
1998 = Gr.2

Maybe if PD is generous, they add both versions 😅 Which I wouldn't particularly mind.
In '98 the GT-ONE arrived with limited testing and was up against competition, essentially, a generation behind in terms of aero. By '99 they'd run a full testing program to exploit their aero and ran improved tyres. Mercedes ran the CLR in '99 which was as quick as the GT-ONE and basically a CLK-LM with low drag aero. While there was a switch from GT1 to LMGTP regulations, the ACO just did away with road homologation rules, stuff like a need for luggage space. Toyota already bypassed this by saying the fuel tank was also the luggage area!

During this period there where changes in restrictor levels, but we're talking +/-5% at most per year. After '99 power levels gradually reduced. The Speed 8 was built to the same LMGTP regulations and qualified in 3.32 in 2003. It was a more sophisticated car than the GT-ONE but ran around 600-630bhp. In '98-'99 the GT1/LMGTP cars ran closer to 650bhp.

The quickest turbo Group C time was by the R90C in '90, with a 3.27. The C11 was a quicker car, but ran with 100kg ballast in '91. The 3.5 XJR-14 ran in qualifying too and also did a 3.31 before being withdrawn. By '92 the pole was 3.21 for the 905!

While a sportscar is usually competitive for 3-5 years, the rate of development in GT1, plus ever laxer regulations. Meant teams needed all new cars in '97, '98, '99 to remain competitive. The short-tail R390 was the class of the field in '97, but by '98 the long-tail model was well off the pace. In '99 Nissan arrived with an all new machine!

In Gran Turismo parlance anything pre '97 is Gr.3 except the 911 GT1. Another car with a story similar to the GT-ONE, in that it crossed generations. '97-'98 sits into Gr.2, while '99 and beyond is Gr.1.
If we get GT-one then it will be Gr.1 - same thing what happened with celica rally car that is too slow for Gr.B but PD gave it a masive boost for bop
On real stages the Celica Group A was quicker than the 205 T16 E2 Group B. But GT7 doesn't replicate the tyre & suspension technology of the time.
 
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In '98 the GT-ONE arrived with limited testing and was up against competition, essentially, a generation behind in terms of aero. By '99 they'd run a full testing program to exploit their aero and ran improved tyres. Mercedes ran the CLR in '99 which was as quick as the GT-ONE and basically a CLK-LM with low drag aero. While there was a switch from GT1 to LMGTP regulations, the ACO just did away with road homologation rules, stuff like a need for luggage space. Toyota already bypassed this by saying the fuel tank was also the luggage area!

During this period there where changes in restrictor levels, but we're talking +/-5% at most per year. After '99 power levels gradually reduced. The Speed 8 was built to the same LMGTP regulations and qualified in 3.32 in 2003. It was a more sophisticated car than the GT-ONE but ran around 600-630bhp. In '98-'99 the GT1/LMGTP cars ran closer to 650bhp.

The quickest turbo Group C time was by the R90C in '90, with a 3.27. The C11 was a quicker car, but ran with 100kg ballast in '91. The 3.5 XJR-14 ran in qualifying too and also did a 3.31 before being withdrawn. By '92 the pole was 3.21 for the 905!

While a sportscar is usually competitive for 3-5 years, the rate of development in GT1, plus ever laxer regulations. Meant teams needed all new cars in '97, '98, '99 to remain competitive. The short-tail R390 was the class of the field in '97, but by '98 the long-tail model was well off the pace. In '99 Nissan arrived with an all new machine!
A reminder that the R90CK that in 1990 did a 3.27 had a "glitch" and was producing way more horsepower than it should, to the point the engineers asked Martin Blundell to come back to the pits but he decided to follow through with the lap (even though it could cause reliability issues and the car was hardly controllable)
It had way over 1.000hp on that qualifying lap (rumours say it had close to 1.200hp). So I didn't count that lap. BTW, it set the fastest top speed on La Sarthe with Chicanes at over 360kph. It's unbeaten to this day.

Yes, a combination of better aero efficiency (namely with drag) alongside having about 50 horsepower more (in race trim, in qualifying it likely was the over 700 that's stated in Gran Turismo 2) would justify an over 6 second gap over the 1998 cars which had just about 600hp each across the board (911 GT1, CLK-LM, F1 GTR Longtail, GT-One).

And yes, the 1992/1993 3.5l Gr. C cars were a different breed. Were for quite a long time the fastest sportscars ever made until the 2007-2011 "LMP1 diesel domination" era of cars. Most notably when the 908 HDi appeared, ironically (another Peugeot).
15 years... Kind of reminds me of the F1 V10s that were the fastest F1 cars ever made for 12 years when the 2017 regulations kicked in.


If people are still to this day wondering why in GT4 the gear shifting on the 905 was so ridiculously slow/bad, it's because it had to be insanely nerfed ... As otherwise the car would be on a class of it's own much like the FGT. The gears on the real life car are much faster than in that game, so I think it was a conscious decision by PD to nerf it. It wasn't much about the horsepower it had, but it's featherweight of 780kg (almost the same as current F1 cars... shocking yes) and much more advanced Aero.
 
To me, the most suspect are the Supercars. The Esports Supercars series have been using iRacing for several years.


V8 Supercars Car of the Future(COTF) and Gen 2 models, have been in Forza games as well as some recent Codemasters games(Grid, Grid Legends).

Similar to the one AU XR8 V8 Supercar in Gran Turismo 3-6, Project Cars/2/3 only had the one FG Falcon V8 Supercar.
Truth to this is Ian Bell mentioning Virgin Australia Supercars would have let them add The V8s if, they added all the tracks. He said VASC were asking too high a price. So, only the old 2013 V8 Supercar is in PC2.

I can only think VASC are in Forza, due to the long time XBOX association with Mark Skaife.
In the same breath, we all don’t know how long the Supercars licensing lasts for any games featuring its cars. Plus, the series changing owners and under new CEOs(the current CEO is more about Supercars expansion). So, using Gran Turismo is a good way of showcasing the Supercars brand.
Maybe, with the rumours of Albert Park, 2022 spec Supercars might be in the game. It were only two models:

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This is the alleged list of recent scans done by PD taken from the video
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some of it seems legit , like the leaker predicted the 2019 DTM Audi car
There are some cars on this list that would make sense in later updates while some are abit questionable:

2020 GT500s: If we look at every numbered GT game (and GTS despite it being the outlier), there has always been at least one example of latest GT500 car featured at the time. Given that relationship still exists, I wouldn't put it past PD to give us those 2020 cars (Especially since if you remember, one of the updated GT3 cars IS from 2020) so the timeframe checks out. There's also the fact that the 2016 cars mysteriously have the option for those later spec rear wings (in particular, the NSX and look at its endplates). Where would those have come from? Likewise, I can easily see the Z GT500 being added as despite Nissan not being the darling of PD that Toyota currently is, its worth noting PD got the latest Z road car first.

Mazda RT24-P: Unless Mazda is somehow just as proud of this as they are of the Mazda 787B (A Big race winning car numbered 55 and all), I can't see this being added. Granted, Raceroom also has this and NOT the Cadillac DPi.VR or the Acura ARX-05 (and likewise, iRacing has NONE of the DPis in the six years they existed) so given the on and off representation of DPi, I suppose its kinda possible this is yet another oddball but I'm not exactly counting on it .

BMW M8 GTE/BMW M4 GT3: Given the increase in IMSA related content (Which includes two tracks leaked in GT Sport as well as a certain ford and a livery for the Lexus) and traditionally any WEC content solely being...well Le Mans and the Prototypes, I can see a case for the BMW being another of those Interesting IMSA additions. Its worth remembering that current IMSA/indycar team RLL still have their BMW M8 GTE so the contacts they have in the US have an somewhere to find it right off the bat. Likewise with PD's latest trend of updated GT3 models (The Audi R8 LMS Evo and its customization that transforms it into the Evo II, the 2018 GT-R GT3 Nismo and the 2020 AMG GT3), the BMW M4 GT3 COULD be another and they certainly aren't short of teams to find and scan the car (Though BMW would likely be more then happy to supply them a car directly as they did with the Z4 GT3 AND the M6 GT3).

Ferrari 488 GT3: Again, refer to PD's attempts at updating the GR.3 roster. There's also an added benefit that has already been demonstrated with several cars: The ability to turn the car into another car via GT Auto. Remember that the 488 GT3 was the first GT3 car that could be converted into a GTE car (Hence, a team like Carguy Racing being able to take their GT300 entry from Super GT and show up in the GT AM category in the WEC with ease almost). So this would be another slightly up-to-date addition that makes good use of GT Auto like the Aforementioned R8 LMS Evo does. Given the updated GT3 cars are so far lean very much towards 2020, this could mean they've gotten the Evo version (which in turn, would mean that it could be turned into the GTE Evo)

Aston Martin Vantage GTE: Kinda torn on this one. Part of me feels like this wouldn't be it and if anything, it would be the GT3 being added instead. While this is another car that could be converted into a GT3 car, it isn't quite the straight forward conversion that could be replicated on the Ferrari 488 GT3 as the engine itself is part of that with the GTE car appearing to have a different crank to the GT3 car judging by the difference in sound (A change I don't see as something that could be replicated in game). On the other hand, we already have 2 GTE cars anyway so..maybe. Its abit iffy to be honest.

Corvette C8.R: With this car seemingly being way more available and once again going off the IMSA connection, this might actually be the first time since GT3 we actually get an official Corvette Racing car. I mean the rear wing is already there in GT Auto (Something you can't even argue with the previous PD made Corvette Race cars as they share next to nothing with the cars they seek to slightly mimic) and as is the case with the 2016 Super GT cars able to be equipped with later spec wider wings, where else could that have come from?

2019 DTMs: Again, an iffy one. On one hand, we already have the Audi RS5 Turbo DTM so it would seem to negate the licensing stranglehold that Raceroom had and there would not be a problem with PD getting the other cars (Or anyone else for that matter). On the other hand, are we sure that is going to happen though? With BMW maybe but is PD willing to model a car that literally only showed up for 1 season (Aston Martin Vantage DTM)? From what I can tell, raceroom themselves sure didn't.

Toyota TS010/Toyota TS020: While Toyota has themselves mentioned this car alongside many of its Prototype efforts, there has been (at least from what I have seen) NO game sim or arcade that has ever included the TS010. So in terms of popularity, this might as well not exist to anyone that isn't a Motorsports fan and as such, I question the likely hood of its appearance. Sure Toyota and PD are all Buddy right now but lets recall: Even during their close ties with Nissan, PD never included the Nissan R391 (A car that BEAT the very Toyota TS020 that has benefitted from basically "The Gran Turismo Effect" at the Fuji 1000 KM) so I'm left thinking the same might happen with the TS010 despite it actually being a car competitive enough to win like its later successors. Speaking of Successors: Duh, lol. Its the TS020, AKA "GT-ONE". Its been in every GT game since GT2, Usually in its 1999 guise since THATs the one that gave chase to yet another European rival before..the usual (Toyota and Bad Luck at Le Mans, name a more iconic duo). Overall, one is highly questionable and pretty unknown outside the hardcore Motorsports fan while the other just based on its popularity (and inclusion in other games as well) is not so much a matter of if but when.

A Handful of TCR cars: This alone is beyond vague (which really doesn't help to shed the "Its totally fake" Vibe it gives by not being something found in game data or on PD's Servers (As the Porsche 962 was via the Livery search feature prior to it arriving in GT Sport). Now since TCR is not exclusive to any series and again the IMSA connection, this does leave room for the inclusion of perennial favorites like the Honda Civic and Hyundai I20 (Or is it the Elantra now?). Audi RS 3 TCR and Volkswagen Might be included as well since they more or less are inseparable in game inclusion. At best, a maybe.

BTCC Corolla: As everyone should know by now (and as @Famine briefly touched upon), Motorsports Games sadly still have a firm grip on the BTCC license (Again, somehow. Maybe Dmitry has those contracts stored in the same place a certain ex-US president had classified documents? Who knows). However, I do pose two questions:

1 - How specific is that contract? Is it like the WEC one in that only Motorsport games can have the names of certain races but it doesn't include the cars OR does it include the cars as well?

2 - What year was that contract agreed upon?

I pose these questions because recall that the WEC license was aquired by MSG a year before PD modelled the Toyota GR010, which suggests that license agreement does not tie down the cars (As is further indicated by the Cadillac V-Series R being shown in both its IMSA AND WEC livery in Forza Motorsport). Depending on the answers, maybe the same can happen with the Corolla (Though it would only have one BTCC track it could play at technically). So this one requires abit of sifting through before I definately have a solid thought on it.

Toyota Yaris WRC: Seeing as we already have the Yaris Road car in-game and given Toyota's push through its Toyota Gazoo Racing brand (Again, Toyota GR010 and various road models, including the Supra and the GR86), this feels like an eventuality that is less mysterious then the Corolla BTCC car. Sure PD hasn't included a recent WRC car since GT5 but there was any manufacturer as keen as wanting to have an updated WRC machine in GT (Especially to go alongside a road car), its Toyota.

Porsche 963: One only has to look at Porsche finally officially showing up in GT Sport to get an idea of the possibility: The Latest LMP1 Hybrid car at the time, the most recent GT4 car at the time and the very much latest GTE car at the time (So new, it proceeded the post LeMans version other devs included). So I can definitely see this showing up in the game as a new GR.1 choice for Porsche, likely showing up in the reveal livery from Goodwood last year (in much the same way the 911 RSR was in its Reveal livery).

Porsche 911 (992) GT3 Cup Car: Given the current relationship with Porsche, This is another inclusion I can see happening (Which could double as another neat IMSA tie-in as well). I mean the Contest currenty being held in North America might likely have this as the standard car for next year should that happen (That or it could be part of a new batch of rotating cars in the contest that might include the 963 and the very next car mentioned here).

Porsche 911 (992) GT3R: Again, another possibility given PD's current track record of updating the GR.3 roster and finally, a proper GT3 car for Porsche too as opposed to pretending the 911 RSR is a GT3 car via the livery editor (You know who you are @GOTMAXPOWER :lol:). Jokes aside, this again is possible due to the relationship between and Porsche which has seen a ton of Porsche models included (Which I'm praying includes a certain racing model from 1998, which I have a die-cast of).

Australian V8 Supercars 2022: Highly Doubtful, I really don't see PD doing this. There has been still little to zero representation of Australia in GT sans the Ford Falcon from GT3, the Holden Monaro from GT4 and most recently Bathurst starting in GT6 (And let's be frank, that's purely due more so to the Bathurst 12 Hour which everyone's favorite overused Motorsport category in Sim Racing: GT3). Honestly, ANYONE hoping for anything Australian apart from Bathurst is wasting their time with PD. Hell, I don't even see this happening with the current cars (Certainly, no developers are interested in doing it at the moment). Safe to say that if you want those, get iRacing.

NASCAR: Probably the biggest and most iffy one on the list. Now sure, PD has included NASCAR previously despite only having two actual NASCAR Tracks (Four I guess if you want to count Twin Ring Motegi Oval and Suzuka East Circuit as they did actually race at both), but I at the moment don't see it happening. Granted, NASCAR is currently not pleased with MSG (and sadly appears to be the ONLY Motorsport sanctioning body with any damn spine to bother doing something about it while everyone else isn't) but I don't see them suddenly pivoting for another GT inclusion in once again a game only featuring 2 Nascar tracks


.I am forced not to believe. Over time, PD has forced me to adhere to the Worst-case Scenario Theory when it comes to Gran Turismo updates.
I pretty much am of only two minds with PD which are:

- Have realistic/reasonable expectations or predictions based on previously established patterns (Which more often then not has been very reliable if the update schedule is anything to go by)

- Expect nothing (Can't be wrong OR disappointed if you never expected anything at all. Bonus points if you don't even have the game :lol: )
I mean, if you are only a Gran Turismo fan and not a Motorsport fan above it, then yeah, the Nostalgia the 88C-V brings is undeniable, but, in terms of racing history and significance, the TS010 is a far interesting, and also well known.
Actually, is there any game that has the TS010 in it? The car is immensely underrated for some reason.
As I mentioned above, I don't recall seeing any game that has ever featured it. Its existance seems to be confined to PC mods (old ones last I looked, which are rough..dog rough, y'all)
 
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WEC & IMSA licenses are with regards to series branding/promotion etc. I guess it also helps smooth the way for some licenses too. Particularly tracks in the US which come under the same parent organisation. Cars & circuits in WEC & IMSA are all licensed by the individual rights holders. In the past there have been issues with games outside the official releases getting F1, WRC, NASCAR vehicles. I guess that could also be the same with BTCC as cars are built to TOCA regulations. But for the longest time people also said the same about DTM...until cars started cropping up in various titles.

The TS010 keeps coming up in these lists because there's one in Germany alongside the GT-ONE, LMP1's, Hypercar's. Unless PD have stopped scanning/modelling anymore Group C cars, it would be an obvious addition. That goes for Group C in general as many cars that where stuck in museums (often not running) are not on track in historics.
 
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Since the Yaris WRC is in that list: Are there any non-mobile games outside the official licensed one that have a, say, 2018-onwards WRC car? I can't think of any off of the top of my head.
 
I'm going to guess that list is fabricated. The only leaks/hints that I believe are from Nenkai as they have a good record.

Having said that, there are cars on that list that will probably show up eventually (all educated guesses, I have no evidence). The remaining Class 1 DTM/Super GT cars seem likely. The GT-One (TS020) is iconic Gran Turismo and will show up eventually. The TS010 would make sense to round out all TS Toyota prototypes (plus it'll go well with the R92CP). I believe there will be a GR.3 Corvette C8 if PD cannot get the license for the C8R.
 
As I mentioned above, I don't recall seeing any game that has ever featured it. Its existance seems to be confined to PC mods (old ones last I looked, which are rough..dog rough, y'all)
Yeah, I can't seem to find that car in any game really. Which is a damn shame. The car itself has its own unique history in motorsport and let's be honest, is bloody awesome.

Of course, if it ever comes down to be between the TS010 and the TS020, then obviously I would prefer the TS020. Nostalgia, racing history and the car itself is just too iconic, IMO, the most beautiful post 70s LM prototype.

The TS010 would make sense to round out all TS Toyota prototypes (plus it'll go well with the R92CP).
They would still be missing the TS040. ... Which is surprising because the TS040 was more impactful than the TS030 was (although the TS030 did mark Toyota's return to Le Mans and the introduction of hybrid as well).
The TS040 was introduced in 2014 and it blew the competition, Audi and Porsche away that year, winning the WEC championship. Of course they didn't win Le Mans because it was a Toyota against top manufacturers.

It wouldn't go well with the R92CP though, the R92CP is already well joined by it's older Gr.C brothers...
The only cars that would go well with the TS010 are the Peugeot 905, Jaguar XJR-14 and the Mazda MXR-01. This later one is extremely unlikely to appear in the game though because of how lackluster it was. The XJR-14 and 905 though.

I know the 3.5l regulations killed Gr.C, which is why they weren't that popular, but it produced the best prototypes ever at the time and for years to come. Again, only in 2007 were they surpassed in terms of pure performance, 15 years later.
 
Whatever, trying to predict a GT7 update is like trying to find a needle through a haystack.

But if I had to predict something it would be 3 cars, 2 scapes, 1 or 2 extra menus, 3 or 4 new events and no bug fix.
 
NASCAR: Probably the biggest and most iffy one on the list. Now sure, PD has included NASCAR previously despite only having two actual NASCAR Tracks (Four I guess if you want to count Twin Ring Motegi Oval and Suzuka East Circuit as they did actually race at both), but I at the moment don't see it happening. Granted, NASCAR is currently not pleased with MSG (and sadly appears to be the ONLY Motorsport sanctioning body with any damn spine to bother doing something about it while everyone else isn't) but I don't see them suddenly pivoting for another GT inclusion in once again a game only featuring 2 Nascar tracks
I could see this one happening in the future (but next week seems a bit too soon) for a few reasons:

  • NASCAR haven't done exclusive licences for their cars in the past so whilst they've had their official game out they've also licensed a pretend racing series on iRacing and had their cars on other games like Rocket League, Real Racing, Forza and even Gran Turismo back in the day.
  • Gen.7, they've been pushing this new car as hard as they can since the start of last year but don't currently have a mainstream racing game with it in, given how bold they have been with other decisions recently that implies they're more interested with getting exposure than making quick money from expensive licence deals.
  • Popularity, NASCAR at Daytona were the most popular lobbies on GT5/6 and it wasn't even close, add the new cars and they've opened up a whole new audience to buy the game which would dwarf the eSports community.
  • This, It sounds as though NASCAR have found a way out of their MSG deal, either buying out the contract or it has been ruled as void if MSG were obligated to make annual releases, I think the next game will be based on iRacing but until that comes out they could use the big games such as NASCAR and Forza to fill the gap
Since the Yaris WRC is in that list: Are there any non-mobile games outside the official licensed one that have a, say, 2018-onwards WRC car? I can't think of any off of the top of my head.
Yes, The Crew 2 has the Citroen C3 WRC and Forza Horizon has the Ford Fiesta WRC, I'm not sure on the exact years but they're both from the big aero era (2017-2021).
 
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