GTA V - General Thread

[SuperShouden]

Anyone else think that there might be a Saint's Row-esque character customization in GTAV? Throughout the trailer we saw a few different people that could be the main character. Or perhaps we haven't seen the main character yet.

 

[Sgt_Snipes_]

Anyone else think that there might be a Saint's Row-esque character customization in GTAV? Throughout the trailer we saw a few different people that could be the main character. Or perhaps we haven't seen the main character yet.

I hope there isn't it should remain the same character as it has always been and Gta 4 was by far the best it was more realistic it just needed planes and more weapons

 

[TiZzla]

I hope there isn't it should remain the same character as it has always been and Gta 4 was by far the best it was more realistic it just needed planes and more weapons

I'm thinking we will see similar character customization to San Andreas - Haircuts, weight loss/increase, tattoos + peircing etc.

I just pre ordered Saints Row 3, and while the customization looks awesome, it doesn't belong in a GTA game.

 

[CMvan46]

I feel its a total rehash, is actually quite lazy of them because Midnight Club LA is mostly a compete and accurate representation of the city and all they had to do is jazz it up slightly and bolt on assets from Red Dead (for the countryside) and LA Noire to create GTAV. It probably took them very little time to get to where they are now. They probably didn't want to choose another location because they don't already have next gen assets created for it which they can gather from other games.

Lmao you've got to be kidding me? From one trailer you can tell they took models from 4 games and threw it together to make GTA5? I think not.

Also let's get one other thing straight... Reusing models and updating resolution and rendering of those models in no way=rehash. Different story, different characters, different game mechanics, and new graphics all don't scream rehash to me.

I also agree La Noire was far from a "flop" as it sold quite well especially for the genre of game.

 

[SuperShouden]

It seems to me that we'll definitely see the largest GTA map ever. And it might just be as big as Just Cause 2, which was released AFTER GTAIV. I say this only because of the Lear Jet scene, the plane seemed to be coming from quite a distance away and the Harrier seemed to be going to fast to be limited to just a map the size of the old San Andreas. To me it seemed like a full, complete LA-style Los Santos and a massive wilderness area, which would imply, if there are other cities, they'd be just as complete.

 

[TiZzla]

I highly doubt they have used anything from the original San Andreas, have you played that game lately? It looks awful! It would probably take longer to upscale the stuff from that game than it would to start over.

The only recycled stuff will be stuff from GTA IV. Stuff like some of the cars, the driving physics and the people movement physics which were very realistic. I bet there is loads of new features we have never seen before..

 

[marchi]

I'm seeing a lot of juxtaposition in the trailer. It starts out making Los Santos to be this idyllic, glamourous place, but as it goes on, the city looks like it's about to be swallowed up in squalor; there's the guy whose bank foreclosed on his house, and frequent shots of the city's homeless. At the same time, we've got private jets and luxury cars zipping around, and all these symbols of wealth. So the economy is clearly going to be a big part of the game, and I think the theme will be "What drives a person to commit crimes?". With the economic factors in mind, I certainly think we're going to be sympathising with characters who resort to robberies out of pure desperation.

If I may extrapolate from that, I would not be surprised if GTA 5 breaks with tradition and starts with a character who is not a criminal. The voice-over keeps talking about getting out of the business and starting over, but I think he could be something like a banker who a lot of people blamed for foreclosures in the city he originally lived in. Unable to take it anymore, he decided to get out of town and moves his family to Los Santos, using what money he has to try and buy his children a future. I think it would be pleasantly ironic if the protagonist never actually commits a crime until he arrives in Los Santos. The risk of all this is that the game would get too preachy.

I get the impression that he's moved there, but the economic situation decimated his fortune and had to return to a life of crime.

 

[marchi]

It seems to me that we'll definitely see the largest GTA map ever. And it might just be as big as Just Cause 2, which was released AFTER GTAIV. I say this only because of the Lear Jet scene, the plane seemed to be coming from quite a distance away and the Harrier seemed to be going to fast to be limited to just a map the size of the old San Andreas. To me it seemed like a full, complete LA-style Los Santos and a massive wilderness area, which would imply, if there are other cities, they'd be just as complete.

I doubt very much that this will be as big as Just Cause. In fact they seem to be the poloar opposite when it comes to graphical design decisions. JC was focused on size rather then detail. The buildings are not spectacularly beautiful or complex, and they don't look life like. GTA on the other hand puts emphasis on textures and making them seem real. Both have their merits of course, but they I feel making a map as big as JC would be detrimental to the overall feel of GTA, just as a small map would do no justice to JC.

 

[uMadson?]

I doubt very much that this will be as big as Just Cause. In fact they seem to be the poloar opposite when it comes to graphical design decisions. JC was focused on size rather then detail. The buildings are not spectacularly beautiful or complex, and they don't look life like. GTA on the other hand puts emphasis on textures and making them seem real. Both have their merits of course, but they I feel making a map as big as JC would be detrimental to the overall feel of GTA, just as a small map would do no justice to JC.

Just a friendly reminder, please edit your first post instead of double-posting. You can also use the multi-quote feature to quote two people at the same time.

 

[Akira AC]

I doubt very much that this will be as big as Just Cause. In fact they seem to be the poloar opposite when it comes to graphical design decisions. JC was focused on size rather then detail. The buildings are not spectacularly beautiful or complex, and they don't look life like. GTA on the other hand puts emphasis on textures and making them seem real. Both have their merits of course, but they I feel making a map as big as JC would be detrimental to the overall feel of GTA, just as a small map would do no justice to JC.

I played a lot of JC2 and I can assure that the architecture used for some of the buildings in JC2's cities was actually pretty decent, the main problem with that game was mostly some assets that were inevitable repetitive(predominate jungle environment, pretty rich but very insubstantial).

The real JC2 focus was the terrains(mountains, deserts, jungles, rivers, which looked absolutely stunning) and a larger scale civil conflict inherit from JC1, apart from that it actually focused on military hardware and stunts rather than details on an urban environment.

By seeing the new mount chiliad(?) I expect a better graphical output than JC2 in this area, GTA SA did a pretty decent work portraying the changes between rural/urban environments and I do expect to see such thing(if the whole SA region will be featured, something that I'm still doubtful about).

 

[Robin]

Would you like to provide some proof to back up that thought? Because I see nothing that says Rockstar North could just as easily taken Rockstar San Diego's 4 year old technology, & jazzed it up with LA Noire & Red Dead Redemption & wha-laa, GTA V. In fact, nothing in this short trailer screamed anything LA Noire or RDR. If anything, I saw GTA IV's engine & design within' it.

I'm also amazed you're coming to this thought after 1 trailer....

It's pretty stupid to ask for proof when you know no one has any and I shouldn't have to provide any for an opinion anyway.

Its also extremely naive to not think Rockstar would have taken the opportunity to cut down on on massive amount of work by taking assets for other existing current platform open world games especially ones set in the very same city.

Midnight Club still looks pretty damn amazing today so I don't see what 4 year old tech has to do with basic 3D building models and road layouts which can easily have better textures pasted onto them, also the hardware hasn't changed so I don't see a massive (game changing) gap between how MCLA and this looks.

The countryside shot in the trailer screamed Red Dead to me because they have a massive storage of assets for fields, mountains, vegetation etc making such areas easy to produce. LA Noire will undoubted contribute the older buildings in the city and also the mo-cap technology.

Its clear very little of this game is going to be done from scratch unlike GTA IV. It would have been nice if they have done any entirely new location or one at least not produced in some way in previous games released on current consoles.

 

[Sharky.]

From Rockstar's site:

We are very proud to officially announce that Grand Theft Auto V is in full development.

Developed by series creator Rockstar North, Grand Theft Auto V heads to the city of Los Santos and surrounding hills, countryside and beaches in the largest and most ambitious game Rockstar has yet created.

A bold new direction in open-world freedom, storytelling, mission-based gameplay and online multiplayer, Grand Theft Auto V focuses on the pursuit of the almighty dollar in a re-imagined, present day Southern California.

 

[ghostrider135]

Or just give everyone a link haha

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Well, the bet didn't account for things like delays.. so if R* says March or summer 12', you'll still lose.

That makes NO sense at all. The date a game is actually released is the date the game actually comes out. So I wouldnt lose. The bet is based on when the game comes out and we are playing it. Not announcement dates. Besides the bet is between myself and R1600Turbo. He says it will be out by the end of summer. (by September 2012). I say it wont. Thats the $20.00 bet.

Our bets were confirmed in post #276 and #278.

 

[PHCharls]

CJ Runs at 1:06?

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

It has not been confirmed thats CJ. Black man running with tattoos does not mean its CJ. Could be anyone and probably there just to create hype.

 

[Brend]

I think it might be the main character of GTA3.

 

[UnionStrike]

I think it might be the main character of GTA3.

All the main characters from previous generation are said to be dead, Claude is the last one I'll want to see come back, he doesn't talk at all.

 

[Sgt_Snipes_]

All the main characters from previous generation are said to be dead, Claude is the last one I'll want to see come back, he doesn't talk at all.

How is niko bellies dead and all the other Gta 4 people

 

[land sea air]

previous generation refers to GTA 3,VC, and SA.

 

[UnionStrike]

How is niko bellies dead and all the other Gta 4 people

They're not.

 

[TheCracker]

CJ Runs at 1:06?

It has not been confirmed thats CJ. Black man running with tattoos does not mean its CJ. Could be anyone and probably there just to create hype.

With GTA V set in contemporary times and GTA SA set 20 years ago, CJ would be about 40 now. That's not to say that CJ won't make a cameo appearance at some point in the story.

 

[uMadson?]

With GTA V set in contemporary times and GTA SA set 20 years ago, CJ would be about 40 now. That's not to say that CJ won't make a cameo appearance at some point in the story.

Referring to the leaked character listing, I say it's Miguel Gonzalez.

 

[Sgt_Snipes_]

previous generation refers to GTA 3,VC, and SA.

Ahh ok

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Referring to the leaked character listing, I say it's Miguel Gonzalez.

But that list gives no indication that any of the characters listed will be the player character. For all we know, the main roles have all been cast and these are just secondary characters.

 

[UnionStrike]

When I saw that guy I thought it was just a homage to CJ and GTASA, his attire is really similar to that CJ wore in the beginning.

 

[Crumpet]

I'm excited about the amount of countryside. It will add a lot of fun to the online element of the game and a lot of possible gravel tracks would be brilliant for rallying. It reminds me of how I used to be scared when exploring the woods at night on San Andreas.

 

[Fido_le_muet]

So it's Los Santos only.
That seems like a bad news but with R* saying the map is 2.5 times larger than the map of RDR, this turned into a very great news!

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

With GTA V set in contemporary times and GTA SA set 20 years ago, CJ would be about 40 now. That's not to say that CJ won't make a cameo appearance at some point in the story.

Thats true and who knows it could be a "flashback" cinema of when CJ was young. Anything is possible especialy with the GTA games. They are experts are raising hype.

So it's Los Santos only.
That seems like a bad news but with R* saying the map is 2.5 times larger than the map of RDR, this turned into a very great news!

Yes at first it seems like bad news but if the map is that large then there will be other cities for sure. Might even be similar cities as SA just renamed. Especially with jets and planes in the game now.

 

[KieranMurphy]

If it's only Los Santos, it could be one large city with surrounding countryside with small towns similar to the countryside towns in San Andreas

Remember, GTAIV was "only" one city, but Liberty City was far bigger than any of the cities in San Andreas. What about a nice big redesigned Los Santos similar in size to Liberty City with plenty of surrounding countryside?