GTDesigned: A Community Vision GT Project

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This may be a topic good for a later time, but has the thread discussed about the type of transmission to use for the car?
 
Besides the poll, no nothing specific. All we know is that it will be a sequential manual.
An SMT? If you don't mind me asking, while I think an SMT is a good transmission to use, what advantages does it have compared to something, say, like a Dual Clutch (DCT)?
 
I'm not sure... I'm thinking Sequential like what they have in rally cars (or is that the only variety?), which I think still uses the clutch pedal. If you can't tell, I'm not a transmission buff, although I would like to be.
 
I'm not sure... I'm thinking Sequential like what they have in rally cars (or is that the only variety?), which I think still uses the clutch pedal. If you can't tell, I'm not a transmission buff, although I would like to be.
I don't think the driver has a clutch pedal with a sequential. I think the transmission does it on it's own. :)

After reading to last page. I've decided to discontinue my use of the 2 stoke engine.
 
I don't think the driver has a clutch pedal with a sequential. I think the transmission does it on it's own. :)

After reading to last page. I've decided to discontinue my use of the 2 stoke engine.
There are Sequential Manuals with clutch pedals, as seen on some racing machines.
 
I was thinking something like the ZF 8HP90 but with a manual clutch. Easy retrofit from the mechanical designs I've seen, and it's a very space efficient unit with little power loss.
 
So for the VGT (i still think we should use @Grandea GTR 's design) how about a "twini" with a manual 8 speed on the rear turbo flat-6 and a 2-stroke in the front with a subby CVT? We can probably shoot for ~1000 kg and 1000+hp combined. The car will pull like superman after a rail of red-kryptonite coke. With active suspension, active aero and light-weight/exotic materials I think it can still take a turn pretty decently too. And imagine that sound :drool:
 
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Refining the design before doing a larger sketch.
 
Here's my first early little sketch of a GTP VGT.

Going from the poll results. It has a 2-stroke V4 sitting behind the driving seat (single seater), and is about the size of a Kei car, with scope for battery space in the floor (if it's to be a hybrid of some kind).

As you can see, iv'e kind of made a 4 wheel 'Carver' (leaning motorcycle), as i wanted the driver to feel more like a pilot when cornering.



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The car will pull like superman after a rail of red-kryptonite coke.
http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Kryptonite
"Exposure to the artificial Red Kryptonite made Superman's skin become transparent and caused him to feel intense pain as well as overload his natural solar absorbtion to the point his super senses were overwhelmed."
Couldn't resist.

Here's my first early little sketch of a GTP VGT.

Going from the poll results. It has a 2-stroke V4 sitting behind the driving seat (single seater), and is about the size of a Kei car, with scope for battery space in the floor (if it's to be a hybrid of some kind).

As you can see, iv'e kind of made a 4 wheel 'Carver' (leaning motorcycle), as i wanted the driver to feel more like a pilot when cornering.



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Love that already!

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The idea of city car sized still holds true, but to more Chevy Volt sizes, as modern times view city cars.

Mid engined electric turbo-charged 4 Cylinder engine, mated to a compressed air hybrid system powering all 4 wheels (or can be shifted to 2 wheels) through a 7 speed sequantial gearbox. Some areas of the car use smart materials, such as the wheels having plastics which open up to create airducts beyond roughly 200 celcius, reducing drag.
 
Here's my first early little sketch of a GTP VGT.

Going from the poll results. It has a 2-stroke V4 sitting behind the driving seat (single seater), and is about the size of a Kei car, with scope for battery space in the floor (if it's to be a hybrid of some kind).

As you can see, iv'e kind of made a 4 wheel 'Carver' (leaning motorcycle), as i wanted the driver to feel more like a pilot when cornering.



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This I like a whole lot, is that four wheel steering I see?
 
I think if we combined @Grandea GTR and @787bcgr we have a design that's aerodynamic and actually big enough to fit 2 engines. @Nessy 's design is cool too, but based on the shape i can't see how leaning would help, as the actual center of mass wouldn't change. 4 wheel steering is cool too but that means that instead of powering the rear axle we'd need to power each wheel. That's the reason the 2x could do 4 wheel steering, it doesn't transmit it's power through the wheels. Other things, like monster trucks, transmit the power to each wheel individually.

@CLowndes888 Like the porche 908? I'm in.
 
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The COM would change slightly, due to the engine tilting with the body (gearbox will be mounted to the chassis). Also the drivers body weight (upper-half) will alter the COM.

As for the 4-wheel steer, i'm no engineer but i'm thinking HICAS 4-wheel steer or something along those lines, shouldn't be anything a diff couldn't handle (power distribution-wise).
 
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but the COM will never shift outside the wheelbase, as it does in a bike. So during a turn when inertial forces create unequal weight on the car the slight change in COM will be completely negligible.
 
but the COM will never shift outside the wheelbase, as it does in a bike. So during a turn when inertial forces create unequal weight on the car the slight change in COM will be completely negligible.
I never suggested it would have have the shifting COM of a bike (just the leaning sensation). The way it is, it will act like movable ballast (left to right).
Another thing it has, are opening valve channels underneath the belly that close/open when tilted, for downforce purposes.
 
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@Nessy sorry but I don't like it. :/ too round or something, idk.
That's cool, i'm sure you won't be the only one. 👍

Hmm, I never considered variable down force underneath a car. Assuming you could keep the car from lifting changing air routing underneath a car could really make for potent results
I'm not 100% sure it will work (not fully thought it through as yet), but it may work similar to how a slot works on a bunsen burner. :lol:
 
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The idea of city car sized still holds true, but to more Chevy Volt sizes, as modern times view city cars.

Mid engined electric turbo-charged 4 Cylinder engine, mated to a compressed air hybrid system powering all 4 wheels (or can be shifted to 2 wheels) through a 7 speed sequantial gearbox. Some areas of the car use smart materials, such as the wheels having plastics which open up to create airducts beyond roughly 200 celcius, reducing drag.

The Volt is not a city car. City cars are about 3600-3700 mm (3400 mm for kei cars) or less in length which is about the size of a Fiat 500. The Volt is almost 4500mm long.
 
Honestly I think the car should probably be at least a bit bigger than a miata, ~ the size of a Lotus Exige / Alfa Romeo 4C. It's small enough to dart through cars on the freeway but big enough for an engine to pull like an lmp1 and room for some decent sized tires. Alternatively we should just make 2 cars. A little Subcompact using @Nessy 's design, and a hypercar based on @Grandea GTR and @787bcgr 's designs. 1 can be a fun little roadster and the other can be a car showcasing the best of formula, lmp and hypercars.

@legacyMACHINE Love your idea too, and it fits along the same lines as the other two lmp1 styled hypercars. If we can fit this all together I think we have a serious race machine.
 
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That's cool, i'm sure you won't be the only one. 👍


I'm not 100% sure it will work (not fully thought it through as yet), but it may work similar to how a slot works on a bunsen burner. :lol:
The one in your avatar though is awesome. :)

Anyone have any advice for my well documented VGT?
 
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