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I don't think so. Those are aftermarket American Racing AR-39 wheels.
EDIT: I didn't see the pic at first. Yes they were, my gramps truck had them.
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GTP Cool Wall: 1992-1995 Dodge Viper RT/10
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EDIT: I didn't see the pic at first. Yes they were, my gramps truck had them.
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No. It had an 8.0 liter V10 petrol engine like the Rams.
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Chrysler owned Lamborghini at the time.
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Well, it's redone in all aluminum and was redesigned for better breathing, but the early one isn't that far removed from the contemporary Dodge truck V10 (which is basically the old LA V8 with two more cylinders).
Chrysler still owned Lamborghini when they were first designing the Viper.
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1987-1994. By Chrysler. Not Dodge.
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Um, what? No....
The Ram engine is entirely unrelated other than the cylinder count.
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The truck engine has absolutely nothing in common at all with the Viper motor. The truck version is an iron block, different cam, heavier rotating assembly, 1,000+ less rpm redline, over 100 less horsepower, lower compression, different rods, pistons and crank, heads are different etc. There's nothing interchangable at all.
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Chrysler's Shelby Cobra Successor and I personally thought that the 3-spoke wheels worked on the Viper. So, sub fricken zero! 👍
Note: It's still not my favorite Viper though, I prefer the Viper GTS!
Note: It's still not my favorite Viper though, I prefer the Viper GTS!
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Wether I know a lot about trucks (I do however) or not is irrelevant. In this case it takes a 2 second Google search to tell you the truck V10 is note even remotely the same as the Viper variant.
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From the book Dodge Viper by Daniel F. Carney:
Looking back, it seems astonishing that Team Viper was also building a radical new engine from a nearly clean sheet of paper, to a deadline pace. Ruling out the truck engine meant the team members had to build what they wanted themselves.
Said Francois Castaing "It was already April 1989. If we wanted the car to be ready by January 1992, we needed to really get going. But the timing for the truck engine was a year later. It also became obvious, when we looked at it more thoroughly, the weight of the iron engine was too high and the power we would get from it wouldn't be sporty enough." Francois was in charge of truck engineering at the time.
Said Roy Sjoberg , Team Viper's new executive engineer,"We rapidly ascertained, the truck guys and myself, that where we wanted a 6,200-rpm redline, the truck guys didn't really care to go over 4,200 rpm. They were interested in low-end torque, not horsepower at high-rpm levels where we were. They were not concerned about weight. Truckies don't like aluminum blocks. They're not as forgiving, and truck people like to have things that are pretty bulletproof.
"Not a lot could be learned from our truck V-10 development. Both engines were V-10s, but one was aluminum and one was iron; ours was sequential-fire individual-injected, and the truck's was group-injected, so it ended up having air pumps and things. We only needed EGR to meet the initial emission requirements, as well as a catalyst. The truckers had to put some other things on it. We ended up with the same dimension pushrod and that was it. But even there, we used a higher-grade material because of our power and rpm requirements."
In the end, there wasn't a single shared part with the Ram V-10 that was being built elsewhere within Chrysler.
So they only share displacement and the pushrods have the same dimensions.
Looking back, it seems astonishing that Team Viper was also building a radical new engine from a nearly clean sheet of paper, to a deadline pace. Ruling out the truck engine meant the team members had to build what they wanted themselves.
Said Francois Castaing "It was already April 1989. If we wanted the car to be ready by January 1992, we needed to really get going. But the timing for the truck engine was a year later. It also became obvious, when we looked at it more thoroughly, the weight of the iron engine was too high and the power we would get from it wouldn't be sporty enough." Francois was in charge of truck engineering at the time.
Said Roy Sjoberg , Team Viper's new executive engineer,"We rapidly ascertained, the truck guys and myself, that where we wanted a 6,200-rpm redline, the truck guys didn't really care to go over 4,200 rpm. They were interested in low-end torque, not horsepower at high-rpm levels where we were. They were not concerned about weight. Truckies don't like aluminum blocks. They're not as forgiving, and truck people like to have things that are pretty bulletproof.
"Not a lot could be learned from our truck V-10 development. Both engines were V-10s, but one was aluminum and one was iron; ours was sequential-fire individual-injected, and the truck's was group-injected, so it ended up having air pumps and things. We only needed EGR to meet the initial emission requirements, as well as a catalyst. The truckers had to put some other things on it. We ended up with the same dimension pushrod and that was it. But even there, we used a higher-grade material because of our power and rpm requirements."
In the end, there wasn't a single shared part with the Ram V-10 that was being built elsewhere within Chrysler.
So they only share displacement and the pushrods have the same dimensions.
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Right, other than casting the blocks in aluminum (for a short time until Chrysler had the ability to cast the blocks themselves) Lambo had no input into the design.
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The top number 1 car for me, my first sight wa supon a demo version of The Need for Speed, the very first NFS games and the moment I saw it as a kid, I was in love, and in GT1, loved it even more as it wasn't as boxy as that other old game. Anyway, I miss this car, badly. It's indeed one of the best car Dodge has EVER made. The design is fantastic, packs a V10, it's only manual, I don't think there is anything for me to say bad about this car.
This will get a Sub-Zero from me. Legendary Viper, the SRT Viper gets in second along with it.
This will get a Sub-Zero from me. Legendary Viper, the SRT Viper gets in second along with it.
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You got some ways to go as an enthusiast so I'll help you out.
The only thing Chrysler about it is the name on the engine cover. Late 80s and early 90s Chrysler owned Lamborghini to an extent but not for long. Lamborghini was never financially big enough (especially then) to own a big corp. like Chrysler that's why you were probably unaware. In other words it's like seeing Fiat on a Ferrari F1 car...which is about as Fiat as the car gets.
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That would be due to the fact the corvette sells significantly more then the Viper in the first place, its total percent sold would be the low figure, where as the vipers sales are more closer to 100% to it's highest power.
