GTP Cool Wall: 1992-1998, 2007+ Light Car Company Rocket
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Completely unpractical, ridiculous, glorious in GT6 and Gordon Motherhuggin Murray was involved somehow, totally unpopular opinion.
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I'm not blindly following Jeremy Clarkson- unlike him, I like Porsche 911's and F-150's. I'm sure you have not experienced a Caterham, either. And how are the Top Gear presenters biased against Caterham? All three of them are more qualified to present an opinion on a car than either of us. The fact that they present their opinions in a humorous manner does not make them incorrect.
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So why's the Caterham for geeks, then?
That's a car whose design was penned over half-a-century ago. No whiz-bang technology. No ridiculous starting procedure. No fancy shmancy self-levelling suspension with fancy geometry. Just four wheels and a motor.
That's motoring at its purest.
The only geekiness is in building your own. But back in the days, we didn't call guys who built their own cars geeks. We called them "rodders."
That's a car whose design was penned over half-a-century ago. No whiz-bang technology. No ridiculous starting procedure. No fancy shmancy self-levelling suspension with fancy geometry. Just four wheels and a motor.
That's motoring at its purest.
The only geekiness is in building your own. But back in the days, we didn't call guys who built their own cars geeks. We called them "rodders."
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- Beeblebrox_237
The opinions expressed on the show are, to a large extent, manufactured for entertainment. If you ever read their columns or watched old Top Gear you'll understand that Jeremy Clarkson is quite different and holds very different opinions from how he is made out on TV. The same is true for Hammond.
You act like what they say is empirical and is totally true, when it's not. If you want a journalist who gives generally honest and informative reviews while still being very interesting, watch this guy:
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Insta SUB FREAKIN' HONKIN' BITCHIN' ZERO.
This is the kind of cars I love most in the world. They are supercar fast, yet not supercar vulgar. They're nerdy, but interesting at the same time. Girls will look at you like your insane, but secretely will think you might be an awesome guy. Regular people in their beige repmoviles will look at you at the traffic lights and will wonder who is the madman that has come to shatter their boring world of status quo, even show-offs in their Ferraris will look at you like you're out of your mind. And that's awesome.
This is the kind of cars I love most in the world. They are supercar fast, yet not supercar vulgar. They're nerdy, but interesting at the same time. Girls will look at you like your insane, but secretely will think you might be an awesome guy. Regular people in their beige repmoviles will look at you at the traffic lights and will wonder who is the madman that has come to shatter their boring world of status quo, even show-offs in their Ferraris will look at you like you're out of your mind. And that's awesome.
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I watched the first part of the video about the Morgan, and during the normal camera shot, where the camera is facing him, the guy is not wearing a hat. In the shot from behind, looking over the car, he's wearing a striped hat. And in the drive-by shots, a helmet is clearly being worn.
Not that it's all that important, but at least Top Gear has consistency.
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The fact that he agrees with Clarkson is not the problem. The problem is that from what he said, he's making it sound like the only reason he thinks that way is because that's how Clarkson feels. If he felt that way after being in one, or hearing about it from someone he trusts then that's fine. The problem I see is that he didn't say he got his opinion from anywhere except Top Gear, and if there's any source to get your opinions on cars from, that's definitely not it.
That would be the equivelent of me disliking the Corvette because Clarkson said it was bad, or me liking the 911 because Hammond says it's quite good. I got those opinions from two things: experiencing them both, and reading a large amount of comparisons from honest, informative sources.
I didn't mean to imply that you think that Clarkson is the ultimate source of automotive knowledge. I'm only saying that it seems to me that your opinion on this specific car is based solely off of what he thinks, and from no other sources or experience.
No, but that's not the problem here. If the car in question was a Kia Soul, we'd still have a problem.
See Beeblebrox's post.
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However, we must all agree that the LFA is the best thing since Dinosaurs.
I've only recently discovered Clarkson's strange affection to it, after I had commited to the relationship to it a little over a year ago. Giving me a little more respect towards the man.
I've only recently discovered Clarkson's strange affection to it, after I had commited to the relationship to it a little over a year ago. Giving me a little more respect towards the man.
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Except me.
Don't take this the wrong way, but do you know anything about cars?
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I gave this a "cool".
The looks are distinctive enough to to make it stand out among the road-legal lightweight track cars in its time. Yet, even though it has looks similar to that of a late 50s F1 car, it isn't highly close to one in the way it handles. Among road-legal lightweight cars, the Vanwall GPR V12 will do a better job in delivering such experience, I believe. Still, the Rocket's a very thrilling car in its own right.
Oh, and there's one more thing I remember:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/doh-moments-in-gt6.296729/page-2#post-9190756
So, it will probably look...umm..."interesting" to a regular person, but not in a very nice way.
Well, this isn't a Caterham. Even though the idea behind both the Rocket and a Caterham was similar.
And, if that's so - the fact that you just happened to have the same opinion as his, not simply basing your thoughts on what he said, it's probably more reasonable for you to not mention him in the very first place. Why would you do that? I think, to some people, you made it sound like your opinion depends on him.
The looks are distinctive enough to to make it stand out among the road-legal lightweight track cars in its time. Yet, even though it has looks similar to that of a late 50s F1 car, it isn't highly close to one in the way it handles. Among road-legal lightweight cars, the Vanwall GPR V12 will do a better job in delivering such experience, I believe. Still, the Rocket's a very thrilling car in its own right.
Oh, and there's one more thing I remember:
Buys Rocket.
Drives brand new Rocket round Brands feeling very pleased with my latest purchase.
Wife walks in and bursts out laughing "HAHAHA, you are driving a kazoo, its sooooo cute!!"
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/doh-moments-in-gt6.296729/page-2#post-9190756
So, it will probably look...umm..."interesting" to a regular person, but not in a very nice way.
Well, this isn't a Caterham. Even though the idea behind both the Rocket and a Caterham was similar.
And, if that's so - the fact that you just happened to have the same opinion as his, not simply basing your thoughts on what he said, it's probably more reasonable for you to not mention him in the very first place. Why would you do that? I think, to some people, you made it sound like your opinion depends on him.
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Not always. I watched some old episodes tonight and their location seemed to bounce around quite a bit between supposedly concurrent shots. For example they'd show the car approaching the Hammerhead backwards, then cut to an in-car shot and if you looked carefully you'd see the car was actually on the runway. Then it'd cut back to an outside shot and you'd be back to the Hammerhead area. I'm pretty sure the shots were framed in such a way that you'd think the in-car shot came between the two outside shots IRL.
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I say Cool, it was designed by Gordon Murray, has a revvy Yamaha engine, and on GT6, I've put CS tires on it and driven it around Brands Hatch and I thought for a second I was driving a 1.5L F1 car.
Loses a bit for being expensive, but the rest above makes up for it.
I find it hard to believe that nobody has called you out on this...
Just what is your opinion on this?
Loses a bit for being expensive, but the rest above makes up for it.
I find it hard to believe that nobody has called you out on this...
Just what is your opinion on this?
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I actually agree but to an extent. There's different "meanings" to uncool. For example being meh might be a bit uncool (it depend on the car in question really) but a different car could be uncool for different reasons.
Weird how that works.
Weird how that works.
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This made me guffaw. I write for Top Gear, and honestly, the TV show is 90% entertainment and 10% factual. The magazine? We try to hit 50-50.
What does the wearing or not wearing of a hat in a shoot that isn't claimed to be a continuous take have to do with the actual contents of the script?
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It saddens me that a forum of alleged car fanatics would completely miss the point of the Rocket, particularly when I look at some of the junk that get voted cool.
The LCC Rocket isn’t something for posing in. It isn’t a car you take out on a Saturday night and park outside a bar/club to impress girls. It’s a enthusiasts car, a ‘Sunday morning car’... something to take out just for the pure pleasure of driving.
Oh, and it’s not a ‘race car’, and it will take a passenger.
The LCC Rocket isn’t something for posing in. It isn’t a car you take out on a Saturday night and park outside a bar/club to impress girls. It’s a enthusiasts car, a ‘Sunday morning car’... something to take out just for the pure pleasure of driving.
Oh, and it’s not a ‘race car’, and it will take a passenger.
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I don't see what that has to do with my enthusiasm for cars?
Just because I judge a car by different criteria to you doesn't make me any less of a car fanatic.
It's also worth noting that unless I missed something nobody mentioned anything about "Posing", merely how much of a tit you look sitting at the lights to onlookers.
Oh, and I'd personally hardly call this flight attendants chair that's hidden under a cowl "taking a passenger"
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