GTP Cool Wall: 2011-2014 Koenigsegg Agera R
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The One:1 is designed for track use I'm pretty sure.
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It's primarily selling point is it's headline power output.
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I think the lay person probably wouldn't care nor be impressed. Maybe..."that looks different."
That's not a slight on the lay automotive user; they'd probably never carry on a discussion about their model of car unless they had the exact same model. How else would they make comparisons and contrast a Mazda and a Subaru? (Other than wide-brush generalizations.)
I also find it funny that people discount the vehicle for being "designed to hit numbers", when the polar opposite is a vehicle that is average or unimpressive in any way. The latter would also be uncool.
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It's my 'top of mind' impression based on what I've seen on forums and in magazines over the years, though I have to admit it's not a make I would go out of my way to find out more detail about.
1000bhp+++ super/hyper/mega cars are an irrelevance as far as I'm concerned... built to appeal to Sheikhs, the odd Russian and 14 year old boys, and then mostly driven round city centers in an attempt to show how wealthy the driver is.
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Talking about cars being made for Arabians, billionaires, etc. I think it's better for manufacturers to restrict them from buying cars. Instead let manufacturers make special edition cars like the Veyron Sang Bleu, CCX Trevita, etc. only for billionaires, Arabians, etc.
For kids, it's just that they're being influenced by games like NFS, Asphalt, etc. that they think this car is the best and that. For example, in Asphalt Nitro, the best car in the game is the Lykan Hypersport so kids will think that the Lykan is the best car in the world.
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I don't care how fast it is. Looks matter in this market.
And the Agera is rather meh on looks.
Also, hyper-irrelevant.
Sure, I'd probably be giggling like a schoolgirl if I ever got to drive one at full blat (a possibility in my line of work, but a remote one). But I doubt I'd ever buy one. Even if I was as rich as Croesus.
Uncool.
And the Agera is rather meh on looks.
Also, hyper-irrelevant.
Sure, I'd probably be giggling like a schoolgirl if I ever got to drive one at full blat (a possibility in my line of work, but a remote one). But I doubt I'd ever buy one. Even if I was as rich as Croesus.
Uncool.
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Being a racing fan does not mean one should be a racist.
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I don't understand what any of this means. So, manufacturers should restrict Arabians and billionaires from buying cars and then make special edition cars which are only for billionaires and Arabians which they wouldn't be able to buy because the manufacturers have restricted them from buying cars?
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I gave it a sub-zero just based on it's doors since I think they are one of the coolest features ever put on any vehicle.
That is probably the worst business model I've ever heard of for specialty luxury goods.
That is probably the worst business model I've ever heard of for specialty luxury goods.
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Billionaire Arabian Horses are prohibited from operating motor vehicles, unless they ride English Style.
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To those people saying Koenigseggs are built to hit certain top speed numbers - you guys couldn't be further from the truth. Christian's aim has always been to built the best driver's car possible using current (and sometimes self-invented!) technology. The massive power and lightweight just makes the top speed number a bonus. It's pretty much the closest modern day spiritual successor of the McLaren F1 and completely opposite Bugatti's approach.
Besides Pagani, Koenigsegg is the only modern day supercar manufacturer that I respect. Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, McLaren...they're all too commercialized nowadays.
Besides Pagani, Koenigsegg is the only modern day supercar manufacturer that I respect. Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, McLaren...they're all too commercialized nowadays.
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The funny thing is... they already do make cars exclusively for ultra-rich Arabian princes.
But they also need to sell cars to mega-rich Arabian princes, and super-rich ones. And even just plain rich ones, as well.
You'd be stupid to not sell them absolutely every stupidly expensive toy you can get them to buy, while they still have stupidly large amounts of money.
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That may be Christian's aim, but the fact of the matter is after the Veyron SS reclaimed the world record, all Koenigsegg did for a while was shout out how fast their car could go...hypothetically. Not once since the CCR record have we seen them even attempt to back all that hype up outside of 0-whatever-0 kph/mph which is such a niche record that only Ultima seemed to care about. For the past couple cars, the horsepower figure seems to remain the big headline on the car.
I don't think I've seen any review state about how it's the best driver's car ever, which may be due to the fact Koenigsegg doesn't seem to let any of their cars be reviewed anymore. As far as the spiritual successor to the F1, the Veyron was for a long time, still considered the modern day F1 in technical & performance achievements when it finally came to fruition.
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Christian apparently said last year that outright top speed isn't a big priority for them any more:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/news/a26292/koenigsegg-top-speed-not-a-priority/
LeGeNd-1
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Precisely because they don't care about the exact speed record that they only mentioned hypothetical top speeds and never actually tested it. Acceleration and deceleration tests have more relevance in track driving so that's what they focused on. High horsepower figure as I mentioned is just the side effect of trying to build the fastest car possible.
As for reviews, Koenigsegg feels happy enough with their sales figures. They don't feel the need to promote their car any further than that. We all know how biased reviews can be anyway.
I respect the Veyron for its technical achievement, but it doesn't embody the same philosophy as the McLaren F1.
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That makes absolute zero sense from a business stand point.
"We don't care about how fast the top speed is but we're gonna make bold claims anyway".
1. That's a silly excuse.
2. The real reason is because they haven't had a press model beyond the first Agera bc the cars are all client vehicles. The Regera is slowly being seen tested bc it's a brand new model.
That's fine. At the end of the day, Koenigsegg was seen as nothing more than someone who built the next fastest vehicle. The Veyron however, is the F1 of its era.
