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Just out of curiosity, those who consider this ugly, what did you think of the Caliber it replaces?
Being less horrendous than the Caliber does not make this car any better.
Just out of curiosity, those who consider this ugly, what did you think of the Caliber it replaces?
But it did have the epic SS350 and SS396 variants which were genuinely quick, not just quick for the time but quick period. And you could work with them becasue there was (and still is) a great quantity of aftermarket speed equipment available for them, and even larger engines could easily fit.
Just out of curiosity, those who consider this ugly, what did you think of the Caliber it replaces?
It has 25 more horsepower and 15 less pound feet of torque. It's also heavier. It would be lucky if it was half a second faster to 60.The definition of "appreciably" might vary a bit. I find it hard to believe it wouldn't be "appreciably" faster, seeing as how it has, what, 20 more horsepower or something? I don't remember.
And the Dart will undoubtedly have an SRT version in a year or two that will be plenty quick as well; much like it took the original Dart 5 years to get a regular production engine anyone at the time would call powerful, and 5 years for the Nova to get the same.But it did have the epic SS350 and SS396 variants which were genuinely quick, not just quick for the time but quick period.
It has 25 more horsepower and 15 less pound feet of torque. It's also heavier. It would be lucky if it was half a second faster to 60.
And the Dart will undoubtedly have an SRT version in a year or two that will be plenty quick as well; much like it took the original Dart 5 years to get a regular production engine anyone at the time would call powerful, and 5 years for the Nova to get the same.
And it will still be FWD, still have only four cylinders, and still have limited potential for improvement. And it will still look like a polished turd.
How many 2.4L engines do you know of that get at least 185 lb ft of torque??If it's true that this larger, N/A engine has less torque than the hamstercharged 1.4, all that means is that Chrysler Corp. dropped the ball big time. I guess they're still not trying very hard.
And it will still be FWD, still have only four cylinders, and still have limited potential for improvement. And it will still look like a polished turd.
Oh, and the ultimate problem:
A member of a certain subculture got hold of one and named it "brushie" because of its color.
How many 2.4L engines do you know of that get at least 185 lb ft of torque??
Limited potential for improvement, like the Neon SRT-4?
Dart GT: 2.4 184/171I haven't yet memorized the torque output of every engine out there, but considering that this one is only 15 off, it shouldn't have been that difficult for the people who designed the engine in the first place.
Dodge themselves sold a kit for the SRT-4 that added 50 hp and 50 lb ft for $1600 when the stock SRT-4 already had ~5.6 0-60 times. That was the 2nd performance tier of 3 available. It ran on pump gas, and would pass emissions so long as you didn't live in a state that used CARB testing.I don't know. What's the fastest SRT-4 that's still street-legal, can run full-throttle on pump gas without knocking, and wasn't built only for drag racing? (I know muscle cars and handling don't usually go together, but I draw the line at putting super wide slicks at one end and pizza cutters at the other).
Oh, and the ultimate problem:
A member of a certain subculture got hold of one and named it "brushie" because of its color.
The Dart shall never recover from this shame.
That's a lot of words to say it's a badly-designed eyesore.
Yea, I think I'd rather have a Pontiac Sunfire.