Gtp Drift Competition/challenge Rules

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-RULES-

GENERAL:
1. Make sure you are available to complete your drift lap the coming weekend.
2. Make the clips available by the next weekend, which gives you a max of three weeks before videos are ready and sent.
3. There should be at least three judges, who must be neutral parties (not by team members or friends). The team members can cheer their members in the battle. =P
4. An unedited replay of either a full lap or a particular set of corners which the competition/challenge is to take place must be submitted. (The parties involved will choose how the video will be judged as explained below in judging. The Video must include speedometer and wheel.
5. Always save replays.

COURSE/MODIFICATIONS:
1. A course should be chosen that both drifters feel familiar enough to battle on.
2. Any tires and modifications should be allowed unless both parties agree otherwise.

JUDGING:
-General-
1. Judges need to submit their scores to the thread two days after the videos are available.
2. All videos will be submitted to judges and not too threads so the "best" of each participant is not affected by others. When judging is finished the links will be posted with the results. If anyone needs a place to host a video contact the head judge.
3. There will be one judge designated the head judge... The challengers will send the links of the uploaded video to him/her and the head judge will then pm the links to the other judges in an anonymous fashion... The videos will have numbered titles rather than names so that the competitors attitudes do not affect the scores...

-Exhibition Drift Judging Procedure-
Points will be awarded out of the maximum amount listed below:
-Style = 10 points
-Angle = 10 points
-Control = 10 points
-Smoke = 5 points

Explained...
1.Style consists of how a person controls their car differently from the average drifter (how they drift the course). Points are awarded for uniqueness... etc...
2.Control consists of how smooth the car is being handled while drifting, Points are taken off for wall hitting/sliding, lots of stuttered counter-steer, poor line taking, etc...
3.Angle... the more the better
Because the above is completely left to personal judgment no point scale will be developed, but judges are expected to judge in an unbiased fashion.
The challengers must decide where the judges are expected to judge drifting. This must be stated in the first or second post of each challenge so judges can do there job fairly and efficiently. Specify one of the following
1) Just in comers
2) Linking some corners without drifting in straights
3) Drifting the entire lap
If nothing is specified, individual judges may count drifting in straights and linking corners as either positive or zero points in style and control categories, but not in smoke or angle.

-Racing Drift Judging Procedure-

Points will be awarded out of the maximum amount listed below:
-Speed=10 points
-Time=10 points
-Control=10 points
-Style=5 points
If more than two wheels leave the track the challenger must enter another video.

Explained...
1. Speed and time will be determined by a submission of the following from the analyzer: speed, average speed, sector times, and lap time. Only the head judge will score this portion, in the following ways…
-Speed: I have done the scoring in this way because exit and average speed take more skill than entrance speed.
A) Average exit speed in all sectors with corners will be 40% of the score for speed
B) Average average speed in all sectors with corners will be given 40% of the score for speed.
C) Average entrance speed in all sectors will be given 20% of the score for speed.
In each of the above areas, the person with the higher average speed will receive a score of ten and for every MPH the slower individual will receive a deduction of .2 points in exit and average speed and .1 points in entrance speed.
-Time: The faster individual will receive a score of 10, while the slower one will receive a deduction of 1 point for every second lost to the opponent. For fractions of a second this proportion will be used in determining points.
2.Control will include line taking and slip angle, and will be judged by individual judges due to its nature. 40% of the score will be devoted to line taking, which involves proper apexing and the choice of a well chosen line (one that utilizes the road to the driver’s greatest advantage). 40% will be devoted to slip angle. Here the greater the angle does not necessarily grant a high score. Rather, the way that the slip angle is used will be of more importance, and things like clean exits and fast but controlled entries will be rewarded. 20% of the score will be reserved for deductions resulting from things like hitting walls and stuttered counter-steer (if these do not occur then they receive the full 20%).
3.Style consists of how a person controls their car differently from the average drifter (how they drift race the course). It also includes a score for smoke (the more smoke is not better), unnecessary smoke as well as not enough smoke will count toward point deductions, but in general smoke from four wheels rather than two and moderate levels of smoke will be what the judges are looking for…

Panel of Judges
Based upon the poll held here:http://gtplanet.net/forum/showthrea...1132#post981132

Head Judges:
Bengee-----------None
Pergatory--------None
Silvia Drifter-----Monkey D
Thio---------------None

Panel:
Sheron-----------Project D
Supra Fly--------Project D
Battle_Stage---Monkey D
Breaker Ohio---Monkey D
Bryan C----------Night Majik
Shadow Drifter-Night Majik
NK4E-------------Night Majik
Boombexus-----None
Bustwave-------None
Catch-My-Drift--None
Ethix101---------None
Seito4Counter--None

The head judges will be responsible for creating official competition and challenge threads (setting up rules and tracks), assigning at least 5 judges to the competition and making sure they can participate, collecting videos, distributing videos to judges, and posting final scores all within the rules of the GTPDC's.

The rest of the judges will be expected to submit scores fairly quickly and the head judges will monitor each judges performance. After three really slow performances on the part of the judges they will be removed from the panel and replaced as seen fit...

Remember a maximum of 3 judges per team and those who recieved 0 votes were ignored...
 
Drifters who compete, please read this and don't ignore it. If you are going to ask a question that is answered in this thread, then you'll be out of the loop. This is very important. Or else ....:mischievous:
 
Should there also be a standard panel of judges? Just to keep things consistent?

(If so, I'd love to volunteer, I'd actually prefer it to competing unless I'm challenged of course)
 
hmmm ok... i would also like to be on this panel... we will have a panel of ten judges but only three to five of these judges will judge certain challenges/comps. If demand makes us need a larger bank of judges then so be it...
 
Originally posted by bengee


RULES

3. Because there are several different ways that the competition can be judged the people involved in the comp must form a basis of where drifts are to be expected (just in coners, linking some corners without drifting in straights, and drifting the entire lap).


ok so this rule is on a comp to comp basis right?
 
yes i cant make rules for how individuals would like to be judged... the comp must state so in an easy to find manner... like on the first post
 
one more from Monkey D and one more from project, maybe battle_stage want to do it. Hes prolly the only other one on our team qualified enough to do it.
 
Hey, I was just watching Grip Video Volume 2 and they had a whole section on the Drift Session/Battle Version comp that was in Hawaii hosted by Signal Auto and they explain the things they look for when voting and I figured I'd post them here

1) Speed - amount of speed you use to enter and exit a drift
2) Raceline - how close the drift-line was to actual race-line used while gripping
3) Use of Road - how close you can get to the edge of the road without hitting the walls or dropping tires into the dirt/grass
4) Smoothness - connecting a series of drifts while making it look easy (not sure how else to describe it)
5) Control of car - pretty obvious

I just figured we might be able to incorporate some of these into the judging and scoring.
 
hmmm good idea... when i have more time i will work this into the rules... also if i am not here like online for a few days as has been occuring for the last couple days and a competition begins do not wait for me simply proceed down the list to the next judge and he will assume hte head position to choose three or four more judges for the comp
 
Originally posted by Ethix101
Hey, I was just watching Grip Video Volume 2 and they had a whole section on the Drift Session/Battle Version comp that was in Hawaii hosted by Signal Auto and they explain the things they look for when voting and I figured I'd post them here

1) Speed - amount of speed you use to enter an exit a drift

I just figured we might be able to incorporate some of these into the judging and scoring.
1) Speed - amount of speed you use to enter an exit a drift

Most people won't agree w/ this because some people drift for exibition and not speed, this would favor me cause i use normal or sport tires, not sims.
 
Well we could say something like for use when copetition tires are the same... This would prevent sloppy exits on drifts and such...
 
I think that the speed part is actually already covered in the race line part, which I think we should encorporate into our scoring. If you take a good race line, you will have the best overall speed possible. If you take a bad line, your overall speed will be bad. There's no need for exit speed alone to be isolated, as that makes no sense to me.
 
Originally posted by pergatory
I think that the speed part is actually already covered in the race line part, which I think we should encorporate into our scoring. If you take a good race line, you will have the best overall speed possible. If you take a bad line, your overall speed will be bad. There's no need for exit speed alone to be isolated, as that makes no sense to me.

Pretty much...I just typed out exactly what they said in the video, but I agree..the race-line and speed parts go hand in hand.
 
At the Drift Session/Battle Version comp it was all exhibition drifting, no lap times were recorded or anything. They were all drifting back and forth down the straights and feint or brake or sidebrake drifting the corners, but it looks a lot more impressive if it's done at high speed as opposed to low speed. If you look at your videos and the speed you carried through them...the "exhibition" one had faster entrance and exit speeds than the "speed" one, so you can still do "exhibition drifting" at high speeds.

edit: oh and you'd definitely get a higher score for vid 2
 
One thing that just occured to me is the view used in the video. If both drivers use the same view in their videos it would be a lot easier to judge because you would be able to compare and contrast the style and angles of the drifts from the same view/angle on both videos.
 
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