GTP NASCAR Sprint Cup S4 Champs: Akmuq, Hendrick, Chevrolet

[Niop]

I went back through and reviewed some laps, I wanted to make sure my reviews were accurate and consistent. Here's a more accurate list from the drivers I reviewed:
Carb: 16
Mule: 19
Smuffy: 24
Furi: 24
RPH: 26

I can produce the individual corners if needed.

 

[Furinkazen]

I went back through and reviewed some laps, I wanted to make sure my reviews were accurate and consistent. Here's a more accurate list from the drivers I reviewed:
Carb: 16
Mule: 19
Smuffy: 24
Furi: 24
RPH: 26

I can produce the individual corners if needed.

I would be interested, then I can look back and see where I went wrong.

 

[MustangRyan]

I went back through and reviewed some laps, I wanted to make sure my reviews were accurate and consistent. Here's a more accurate list from the drivers I reviewed:
Carb: 16
Mule: 19
Smuffy: 24
Furi: 24
RPH: 26

I can produce the individual corners if needed.

Was this ignoring all cuts on lap 2, and any cuts where cars were side-by-side in the Chicane or Ascari?

 

[Niop]

Was this ignoring all cuts on lap 2, and any cuts where cars were side-by-side in the Chicane or Ascari?

Yep, correct.

Edit: Here's the Individual laps:

Carb:
3A
6A
8C
9C
10C
15A
17A
18C
18A
19C
19A
21C
23A
25C
29C
31C

Mule:
4A
5C
6C
10C
13C
13A
15A
16C
22C
23C
23A
24C
24A
25C
25A
26C
26A
29C
31C

Furi:
3A
4C
5C
5A
6C
7C
8C
9C
9A
10C
11C
12A
13C
14C
15C
16C
16A
18A
22C
27C
28C
29C
30C
31C

Smuffy:
3C
3A
4A
5C
5A
6C
7A
8C
9A
11C
11A
13C
16C
18A
19C
20C
21C
21A
23C
24A
25A
27C
28C
28A

RPH:
6C
8A
9C
9A
10C
10A
11C
12C
12A
14C
14A
16A
17A
18C
18A
19A
20A
21A
22C
22A
23C
24C
24A
25A
27C
30C

 

[The Bman]

It's actually a matter of braking a little later. Braking early gives more opportunity of cutting them, turning in earlier.

EDIT : Sorry for the duncity of this. I can't figure out what TRM is, other than potentially Trial Mountain.

When you brake late, you go straight into the turn, and at a track like Monza, you will go right through the curbs, cutting across them.

 

[Furinkazen]

I recommend that next season we actually have a clear picture / video guide pre-race of what boundaries are, that's easily accessible. End of the day its become a total mess and tbh I think the rules just prohibit any kind of attacking driving.

 

[cgr-10]

I agree to an extent; if NASCAR went through and penalised every cut in an average road race, everybody would be disqualified.

I can see why the rules were implemented but things need to be simplified in some fashion if only to make things easier for you, Drop.

 

[Furinkazen]

GENERAL RACE RULES/PROCEDURES/ETIQUETTE:

[*]While cornering on road courses, the two outside tires must remain completely on the tarmac/concrete/pavement at all times. Rumble strips are NOT considered part of the tarmac/concrete/pavement. Anyone that is caught cutting corners can be assessed up to a 30-second penalty, per occurrence, at the discretion of the league host.

I take it this means that 30 seconds is the maximum time penalty that can be issued to a driver?

 

[MustangRyan]

I take it this means that 30 seconds is the maximum time penalty that can be issued to a driver?

Did you read the quoted text?

 

[cgr-10]

I take it this means that 30 seconds is the maximum time penalty that can be issued to a driver?

'Per occurance'.

Do you actually read these things Furi?

 

[Furinkazen]

Did you read the quoted text?

Yes, it makes it sound like either 1. 30 seconds in maximum for driver. or 2. 30 seconds for ONE cut. (which would be totally outrageous). Seeing how nearly everyone is penalised when will final results be? Motegi is this week...

EDIT: Yeah Tom, I got some screwed up interpretation in my brain. My bad

 

[MustangRyan]

Yes, it makes it sound like either 1. 30 seconds in maximum for driver. or 2. 30 seconds for ONE cut. (which would be totally outrageous). Seeing how nearly everyone is penalised when will final results be? Motegi is this week...

EDIT: Yeah Tom, I got some screwed up interpretation in my brain. My bad

The rule is stated very clearly. The fact that nearly everyone cut is not my fault. It's simply my problem, because I have to go behind everyone to see how many times they violated the rule. Final results will be up when they are ready. Each review takes a little over an hour. I apologize for not skipping work and neglecting my family for the sake of getting our standings up faster. I'll ask my boss and wife if they are ok with me staying home tomorrow. Do you mind covering my lost wages?

 

[Furinkazen]

The rule is stated very clearly. The fact that nearly everyone cut is not my fault. It's simply my problem, because I have to go behind everyone to see how many times they violated the rule. Final results will be up when they are ready. Each review takes a little over an hour. I apologize for not skipping work and neglecting my family for the sake of getting our standings up faster. I'll ask my boss and wife if they are ok with me staying home tomorrow. Do you mind covering my lost wages?

Yeesh ok Drop... didn't mean to piss you off like that... sorry..

 

[Niop]

Drop, I can review some more laps tonight if you want.

 

[Knelly]

I'll do Matty or Neljack now, but will stop at 12 mate if that's ok as its late here. Just managed to get on now.

 

[paulmac2k9]

Once per incident.. Up to 900 seconds (For 30)..

 

[Matty]

I'll do Matty or Neljack now, but will stop at 12 mate if that's ok as its late here. Just managed to get on now.

Ah, 16?

EDIT: I had a look myself for reassurance and I had 8 by lap 17.

Just realised I look like a fool because when I was looking at the post it said 1 thing, when I quoted it said something else and I've only realised now.

 

[MustangRyan]

Knelly:

3A
9C
11A
17C
17A
18C
23C


4C is not penalized, because of a push received from behind in the braking zone that caused knelly to not be able to slow down enough, resulting in a cut through the second half of the chicane.

Edit - I'm watching Tom's replay, and I see smuffy cut Lesmo2 on lap 21.

 

[Niop]

Matty:
9C
13A
14A
17A
22C
23A
25A
27C
31A

Neljack:
3A
5C
7C
8C
11C
12C
13C
13A
14A
15C
16C
17C
18C
18A
19A
20C
22C
23C
23A
26C
27C
27A
28C
30A
31C
31A

 

[paulmac2k9]

Nel is such a whore, look at all the cuts he has done in one night..

 

[Matty]

Wow, I was being very hard on myself then, but I wasn't really checking too much, just if I even had a doubt I would add it

 

[MustangRyan]

Tom

4A
15A
16A
17A
19A
21A
23A
27C
29A
31A
31C


7A is not penalized, as a spinning car ahead caused Tom to take evasive action, resulting in a necessary cut.

 

[Matty]

Depending on penalties I may get second..

Damn you Niop for being so clean, I could have done with a win...

 

[RedPartyhat]

I hope that's the last we see of Monza in any GTP America event. Me and Matty have started focusing on Motegi long ago.

 

[Matty]

I hope that's the last we see of Monza in any GTP America event. Me and Matty have started focusing on Motegi long ago.

If I get second I'm in full support of it for next season..

 

[MustangRyan]

Consider Monza replaced by Indy Road for Season 5.

 

[Matty]

Consider Monza replaced by Indy Road for Season 5.

Indy road.. You'll have to look over replay a lot.. Unless we can cut close to the tyre wall for T1..

Oh and the hairpins, just before them is another cutting spot.

Same amount of cutting spots as monza really, but easier to monitor I suppose.

 

[RedPartyhat]

I'm heavily against Indy Road =\

 

[MustangRyan]

Acdc

5C
6C
9C
10C
12A
13C
19C
19A
26A
28C

ACDC was not penalized for a cut in 3C because of an accident in front of him, which required evasive action.

 

[MustangRyan]

Tentative order:

1. Spurgy - 32 cuts (verified by Drop)
2. Niop (+30.495 seconds) - 3 cuts (drop)
3. gokartman (+40.350) - 30 cuts (drop)
4. neljack (+48.115) - 26 cuts (niop)
5. Matty (+51.820) - 9 cuts (niop)
6. smuffy (+75.139) - 24 cuts (Niop)
7. Furi (+75.476) - 24 cuts (Niop)
8. Carb (+75.546) - 16 cuts (Niop)
9. RPH (+90.375) - 26 cuts (Niop)
10. TomMcD (+94.711) - 11 cuts (drop)
11. Knelly (+96.485) - 7 cuts (drop)
12. Mule (+148.000) - 19 cuts (Niop)
13. Drop (+168.000) - 2 cuts (Niop and Knelly)
14. ACDC (+193.000) - 10 cuts (drop)

Penalties will be assessed as follows:
The lowest number of cuts recorded was 2.
2 cuts will be subtracted from all drivers, so that the least penalized driver has 0 penalties.
2 seconds will be added to the final finishing time for every remaining cut for all drivers.

The final race order is as follows: