GTP WRS-Online Event 2 : FXXza Irresistibile! - February 5, 2014

I did not make it to TT deadline-- does that mean i have no chance of participating on race day even as reserve driver?
You can sign up for the Wednesday race, and not merely as a reserve driver. The stewards can probably tell it better than me, but all submitting a TT time really does for the weekly race is, if your TT handicap is better than your official handicap and there are multiple rooms for that race slot, they'll use that in deciding which room you'll be in.
 
I did not make it to TT deadline-- does that mean i have no chance of participating on race day even as reserve driver?
I moved your post to the online race thread; best not interrupt the congrats to ask an unrelated question.

You don't need to participate in the TT, you can still race in the online race. But please attend practices and get comfortable around others in this beast of a kombo. :mischievous:
 
Sorry for making a mess of the thread by moving posts. :(

Server maint. for me too.
 
Maintenance? Do I smell an update?
It's the weekly scheduled maintenance. Of course, 1.04 came out after last week's maintenance, and it is a new month.
 
Sorry for making a mess of the thread by moving posts. :(

Server maint. for me too.
No worries on that. The server maintenance just gives me more time to check replays and see why I'm so slow.
 
Any discussion on this thread regarding green rumble strips being out of bounds? (as opposed to red and white)

Just curious and also wondering how much those kinds of GTP rules are actually being followed during pre-race qualifying.
It's not to stir things up its just so I know what I can do, what i can get away with and what I'm up against. ;)
 
It's honor-system during quali, keeping it on red-n-whites just like the time trial. During the race, we have the replay and will infract where we see fit.

If we see you purposely lift after an off, penalties can be avoided. Pretend you didn't go off and we'll start looking closer. :)
 
A strange thing happened during practice tonight. I had my room set to 'Vehicle tuning: Prohibited' as per the race rules, started practice on SS's but when I pitted I could only choose SH's!
I then changed the room settings to tuning allowed, tried again and it allowed me to choose between SH's, SS's and RH's when I pitted.
Perhaps something to look into before the races.
 
Practice Room ID 1472-6118-4216-8217-1236

:cool: Open Closed :(

A strange thing happened during practice tonight. I had my room set to 'Vehicle tuning: Prohibited' as per the race rules, started practice on SS's but when I pitted I could only choose SH's!
I then changed the room settings to tuning allowed, tried again and it allowed me to choose between SH's, SS's and RH's when I pitted.
Perhaps something to look into before the races.

Not that it's a good thing, :sly: but FINALLY someone else is seeing what I have been experiencing for a couple weeks (it happened during the Audi S1 race). I found that changing any setting after going into Event Settings is not really important...I found that just going in there and then exiting will fix it. When I exit I click Yes, then leave. It will say you changed something, even though you never really touched any options. After you go back into the race and pit, the tires are back as they should be: having all available tires ready to be changed during the pit, not seeing missing options for tires like it was the first time.

I can see this could be a big problem for me during the main event; :crazy: but hopefully if I do the little "go in and change nothing in settings" trick it should be fine.

I'm noticing a lot of gamers are needing to play around with things just to get the online rooms to act properly. It's not just one bug/glitch, it's a few different things...missing cars, bad settings, pit malfunctions, etc. :odd:
 
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I wouldn't doubt if different bugs present themselves based on whether you "load settings" from a previously saved lobby settings slot or create them from scratch. Maybe when and if PD releases the community features they will also clean up a lot of these setup type bugs. The pit bug is a bit more concerning. I didn't notice it in the lounge I ran with Lucas last night.

One thing I noticed on this combo is my screen jumps around constantly in bumper cam. I basically cannot drive in that view for any more than a lap or two without going crazy. There is a constant up/down shiver on the screen whenever I'm on the accelerator (which is almost always at Monza)... not so much when I'm braking. It gets really bad at times, but at least a small shiver is occurring at all times. I switched to roof cam and it's gone. I saw it one time after a pit online with the S1 @ Apricot Hill, but with the FXX it happens offline and online all the time with the FXX. Hate it. Ran the TT with roof cam as well.
 
I had that problem with the Audi last week actually. Was making feel nauseous from the wobbling screen. Hasn't seem to have effected me so much on this one fortunately.

Also it has already been mentioned once in this thread but I'll bring it up again:

Ensure you purchase Racing Hard tyres!!! If you don't then you definitely won't see them as an option from the pits, and it won't be a bug ;) Hopefully everyone will have practiced with them anyway and this won't be a problem :)
 
I wouldn't doubt if different bugs present themselves based on whether you "load settings" from a previously saved lobby settings slot or create them from scratch.

I've tried both new settings and previous settings. I've seen the same results. At one point, I thought a fresh set of options did solve the problem, but it came back the very next time I started a practice room using a fresh reset. :confused:
 
I've tried both new settings and previous settings. I've seen the same results. At one point, I thought a fresh set of options did solve the problem, but it came back the very next time I started a practice room using a fresh reset. :confused:

So you recommend this to address the bug:
  1. Creating the room with either loaded settings or from scratch
  2. Letting the room load completely
  3. Going back into settings screen and clicking "yes" to change settings (even if you haven't changed anything).
I think someone else said the first race was "bugged". We could add step 4. Host starts with a 2 lap race, pits to make sure RH is available, then exits race and updates the lap count.

Could have the room hosts do all this before we even publish the room #.
 
It might just be me, but when I ran a couple online session last night by myself, it felt like the RH tires weren't any better than fresh SS. Anyone else noticed this? I guess I expected a noticeable improvement in grip, but didn't seem so. I was running 15 lap "races" and pitting after 9 laps and my times were slower on the fresh RH tires.
 
Well i saw no room here open now so i opened one. Room id 1472-6399-8880-6892-7842. Feel free to join and train for race :)

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It might just be me, but when I ran a couple online session last night by myself, it felt like the RH tires weren't any better than fresh SS. Anyone else noticed this? I guess I expected a noticeable improvement in grip, but didn't seem so. I was running 15 lap "races" and pitting after 9 laps and my times were slower on the fresh RH tires.

I experienced the opposite. RH were faster. Not by a ton, but also more consistent as they were easier to drive for sure. I could somewhat routinely run 39 flat with RH tires and my best with SS is 1'39.6. I'm pretty sure if I pushed in quali mode with the RH tires like I do with the SS tires that high 38 wouldn't be hard to achieve.
 
I have same experience with RH. Purchased it but doesn't appear during pit stop. :confused:
 
So you recommend this to address the bug:
  1. Creating the room with either loaded settings or from scratch
  2. Letting the room load completely
  3. Going back into settings screen and clicking "yes" to change settings (even if you haven't changed anything).

Yes...In my experience, that is what I have needed to do. :dopey: I can't remember it ever not working. I have only seen it when I host a room. No one else in the room has ever said they are experiencing the same issue. I don't remember seeing it when I am a part of someone's room. I will double check these next time I get in the FXX.
 
Registered as a Reserve as I get home from OS that morning so depending on the sleep I get on the Plane.
As the Hotel does not have a PS3 I will only get practice just before the event which will be a challenge :D

I need to cancel, I cannot read my flight times, it arrives just before the start time, next week then :grumpy:
 
It might just be me, but when I ran a couple online session last night by myself, it felt like the RH tires weren't any better than fresh SS. Anyone else noticed this? I guess I expected a noticeable improvement in grip, but didn't seem so. I was running 15 lap "races" and pitting after 9 laps and my times were slower on the fresh RH tires.
I agree with WRP on this one. Was running 39's and 40's on fresh SS, pitting onto RH got a low 38 IIRC. And more consistent too.
 
I agree with WRP on this one. Was running 39's and 40's on fresh SS, pitting onto RH got a low 38 IIRC. And more consistent too.

It must have been me I guess. Could have been overdriving expecting different results. I'll keep at it tonight. Thanks for the feedback.
 
It must have been me I guess. Could have been overdriving expecting different results. I'll keep at it tonight. Thanks for the feedback.

Yes, it might be just an adjustment period to get used to the RH tires. Gravitron originally felt the brake zones were longer with the RH tires, but based on our runs last night that's not true. The brake zones are almost exactly the same which is convenient as you can use the same braking pionts. The car stops quicker, but you are going a little quicker. You slide less in the corners so a couple corners feel different. You must turn in later in order to be clean in a few spots because you'll stick. Lesmo 2 and the entry to ascari are two primary examples. If you turn in anticipating the SS horizontal slide to keep you on rumbles and clean you will end up cutting the corner illegally. Otherwise I'd say the rest of the track is very similar. You can get on the gas earlier and forward traction is much better without requiring as much throttle control or short shifting. I haven't run until the critical rear left time goes down too far so I don't know if grip falls off a cliff. That's next on the testing agenda.

A couple other general notes.

First, braking zones under draft can be deceiving. Brake early when behind someone and under the influence of draft. Going into turn 1 you really feel the speed gained from draft and it's pretty natural to break early. You can also brake really early and modulate the brake to manage the distance and end up right behind the other driver at the apex without taking risks. Going into the 2nd chicane is much more deceiving. It doesn't feel like you are going faster, but you really do have to brake quite a bit earlier and the brake zone is shorter. It's easy to miss a brake marker when following so be careful. The braking zone into ascari is the easiest to miss... make sure you aren't just using shadow lines on the ground for your markers because you might not see them. I'm a bit worried about lesmo 2 also sine the brake markers are no longer immovable objects... you might want to figure out an alternate marker just in case they aren't there.

Second, there is quite a pace differential between drivers. I suspect there will be an equally great difference in how drivers abuse the rear tires. It's easy to make a mistake and one touch of the grass can send you in a spin. Add to all of that there may be times when some drivers are on different compounds. Conclusion is that a few drivers are going to getting lapped (and maybe more than a few). If you are getting lapped you must observe the blue flag. You cannot defend your position and you cannot drag race a lead lap car down the straight. According to the OLR, you must pull over and get out of the way at the first opportunity. And you should be conservative about it and think ahead. If you are heading into the chicane and feel like you will be holding up the lead lap driver by in the middle of the chicane you should pull over before the chicane and let them through. Yes, you are losing time, but once you are being lapped that's your responsibility. Once you let the driver pass you there is nothing against using their draft a bit and maybe get back just a bit of that time, but you have to be careful... before you get to the braking zone back off or pull out of the draft. You don't want to be punting anyone into the sand trap.

Be careful re-entering the track after an incident. We've had drivers in the past make a mistake heading into turn one and ending up on the blocks and return unsafely to track and receive a penalty. Once you are off track you can't get back on track until the coast is clear. Don't dive back into the chicane into oncoming traffic, remember your tires will be slippery and you might have damage. You might have to wait for an entire pack to pass before you can proceed. Once you go off track it's your responsibility to return safely. Once you are back up to speed and on the racing line you get back your rights to the racing line, etc. (assuming you are battling cars on your same lap).
 
And just to add one final note on this, getting sand or grass on the tyres from coming fully off the track can cause deadly track re-entry. Be extremely gentle on the throttle and/or short shift to keep the revs down after coming off the grass/sand if you happen to find yourself in such a position, don't get caught in the mindset of "gotta get back up to speed quickly" because the car will simply spin in a circle.
 
And just to add one final note on this, getting sand or grass on the tyres from coming fully off the track can cause deadly track re-entry. Be extremely gentle on the throttle and/or short shift to keep the revs down after coming off the grass/sand if you happen to find yourself in such a position, don't get caught in the mindset of "gotta get back up to speed quickly" because the car will simply spin in a circle.

Yah, based on my practice I'm an expert at this 2nd spin technique. :dunce: If I need to get the car in reverse for some reason I just can't get used to the GT6 system of the tranny staying in R unless you shift. In GT5 it just went back to 1 if you released the reverse button and I wish I could go back to that setup. In the parity race I ended up starting one race from the grid in reverse... sorry Jammy. :lol:
 
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