GTP_Registry Discussion Thread

[AsteroidSHDTV]

For those who have already submitted a time and have yet to be placed into a division, will have their lap times honoured.

Fantastic! A relief, thanks

The new qualifier looks interesting; the RX-7 is multi-faceted, just as Fuji is. There's a lot of technique to both that won't be readily apparent even from a ghost, so it matches up with the qualifier being online again quite nicely. 👍

 

[Vagabond]

I don't think the issue here is your mistake.

I think it's the fact that you continue to defend your position and come across as though you did nothing wrong.

I haven't been defending my mistake, I've been defending my moral position after Sphinx's rude response to my question, something for which he has neither apologised for, nor even engaged me in coversation over. I thought you would be bigger than that Sphinx.

I concede I have not apologised for my mistake either thus far but its hard to apologise when you're being insulted and brow beaten. This is how it should have gone, with a little tact and patience:

VA: Am I affected by this since I have a time on the board even though that is not my qualifier time?

Sphinx: Yes you are affected - no GTP tag should have a time on the leaderboard

VA: My apologies in that case - I was careless when messing around in TT but assumed it would not be a problem since I had already submitted my qualifier lap time.

Sphinx: Apology accepted - be more careful in the future; the rules exist for a reason and this kind of thing can make a mess of the qualifier.

VA: No problem. My apologies again... May I suggest changing that part of the rules to read "No GTP tag bearer must set a time online for this Time Trial - You have been warned!"

Instead, Sphinx seized on my questioning the wording of the rules and decided sarcasm would be a better response, thus triggering my defensive behaviour. I indeed apologise for making the mistake in the first place but I'm not going to retract anything else I've said with regard to Sphinx being rude.

If you are still willing to accept me into the divisions, I stand by my time. If not, I would like at least some acceptance that you had no need to be so confrontational. Then one way way or another we can put this behind us.

 

[steven]

I've changed the qualifier, and I have also allowed for it to be done online, the reason for allowing it to be done online now is due to the fact that I can't guarantee that we won't have the same problem arise again in a few weeks time.

Well done 👍 in the first qualifier the top 100 was also viewable online. And as this combo is also used for IFTC race 1, that list will probably be very long anyway

 

[SteveO1965]

I said it was idiotic, I didn't say the people that did it were idiots. I addressed the action taken, not the people doing it.

In that case i apologise for my misunderstanding.

 

[RACECAR]

In that case i apologise for my misunderstanding.

Its all good:tup:

 

[DrTrouserPlank]

The online times for the Fuji combo won't mean anything in releation to the qualifying specification anyway; because all those times will have been achieved by running the car a mile off the track onto the aprons, as is being done in the online Fuji TT at the moment.

 

[Timppaq]

No, most of the top runs are clean. The rules are pretty much the same @ IFTC as they are in the qualifier. 👍

 

[Sphinx]

C'mon Sphinx, a simple yes or no will suffice...

What sparked me off was this rude comment and your attempt to mask your mistake behind technicalities just like my boy did when he climb out of the window. Up until these comments my main concerns where aimed at the existing GTP Members (not you) running the qualifier and needing time to decide what to do next (which would determine my answer to you).

I'm not looking for an apology from you, and I can assure you that no apology will be forthcoming from this end.

Move on.

 

[Stotty]

No, most of the top runs are clean. The rules are pretty much the same @ IFTC as they are in the qualifier. 👍

Exactly right... and even if they use it, most people won't see Hol01's ghost again after the 2nd turn

 

[Sureboss]

Shoot me for being stupid. But how will you place drivers in divisions when some people have done a qualifier on a different track to another?

 

[Vaxen]

Shoot me for being stupid. But how will you place drivers in divisions when some people have done a qualifier on a different track to another?

BANG!

Some of the already classified drivers have been asked to run the newer qualifiers for the purpose of establishing a "par time." New submissions are compared against these par times to ensure correct classification.

 

[Vagabond]

What sparked me off was this rude comment and your attempt to mask your mistake behind technicalities just like my boy did when he climb out of the window. Up until these comments my main concerns where aimed at the existing GTP Members (not you) running the qualifier and needing time to decide what to do next (which would determine my answer to you).

I'm not looking for an apology from you, and I can assure you that no apology will be forthcoming from this end.

Move on.

Just before I move on, which I will, I promise ....

I was not trying to hide behind a technicality, honestly; I was trying to establish my guilt or innocence by querying the point, albeit somewhat impatiently, for which I apologise. It was suppposed to be light hearted but its difficult to convey that on a forum. Yes it was a mistake but not one I was trying to hide from. The rest of the rubbish has sprung up from that misunderstanding, I think.

For my part, I apologise. No I don't expect one from you, just accept mine and understand I wasn't trying to cause problems. The exact opposite in fact.

Moving on....

Does my qualifier time from the previous qualifier still stand? Or am I now a social pariah with the standing of an amoeba?

 

[Sphinx]

Moving on....

Does my qualifier time from the previous qualifier still stand? Or am I now a social pariah with the standing of an amoeba?

I

For those who have already submitted a time and have yet to be placed into a division, will have their lap times honoured.

It still stands.

 

[Cultlife]

Exactly right... and even if they use it, most people won't see Hol01's ghost again after the 2nd turn

It's turn 4 that gets me. I can stay within a few tenths or so until then, but the speed he manages to build after the apex onto the next straight is ridiculous. From there he's away, since I find the twisty section quite difficult & often mess up the most important corner - the last one onto the long straight.

 

[BobElHat]

Oh. The qualifier has changed. That was a waste of a couple of hours then. There is currently conflicting information, I read this thread just a few hours ago before running the qualifier. That thread still has the old information.

I also have a time on the online leaderboard for the old qualifier (not with a GTP_ tag though). I read and understood the rules as written. I checked and checked again. They do not say I can't have a time on the leaderboard, only that the time I submit cannot be the one on the online leaderboard. That much was abundantly clear to me, because that's what the rules said. I understand the need to keep exact times secret, but I figured that the submitted time not being the one on the leaderboard introduced sufficient ambiguity that people couldn't be certain of a target time. You can see my time on the leaderboard, but was that when Lewis Hamilton popped round for a cup of tea and a go on my PS3, a lucky lap where I was three tenths quicker than I've ever been able to go again, or a practice lap two seconds slower than my submitted time? Nobody but Sphinx and I can possibly know. I wasn't looking for a loophole, I honestly thought this had been considered and the uncertainty introduced by the qualifying time not being the same as the online time was deemed sufficient.

Well, I guess I'll put my Scooby away and go and read the new qualifying rules.

 

[Sphinx]

Well, I guess I'll put my Scooby away and go and read the new qualifying rules.

If you've done the old qualifier then I will honour it. 👍

I'll update the the WRS to stop others doing the same.

 

[BobElHat]

If you've done the old qualifier then I will honour it. 👍

I'll update the the WRS to stop others doing the same.

Cheers Sphinx 👍

It was right after I had PMed you my qualification time that I read this thread and found out about the new qualifier, so it was a bit of a shock when I thought I'd have to do it all again.

 

[AlexTB]

It's been a long time...
I submitted the time for the suzuka east 1 or 2 hours or something like that before the qualifier changed - I'm confused by what sense your using 'honour' in. And whats the WRS, I don't mean to be a hinderance, I'm just puzzled. Please help!
Cheers

And to VagabondAngel and Sphinx - 'everyone makes mistakes' - just enjoy the game for what it is!!!

 

[Vaxen]

It's been a long time...
I submitted the time for the suzuka east 1 or 2 hours or something like that before the qualifier changed - I'm confused by what sense your using 'honour' in.

'Honour' in this case means that the submission will be accepted and the racer will be classified.

And whats the WRS, I don't mean to be a hinderance, I'm just puzzled. Please help!

The WRS is the Weekly Race Series, a weekly competition run here at GTPlanet for years.

 

[AlexTB]

Cheers Vaxen

 

[einar_c]

I submitted my time last night. Looking forward to seeing how competitive my time was...

 

[Sureboss]

'Honour' in this case means that the submission will be accepted and the racer will be classified.



The WRS is the Weekly Race Series, a weekly competition run here at GTPlanet for years.

Hope I can get in before the deadline for the first round...

 

[DrTrouserPlank]

Ok, it's been a week since I submitted my time. Do we have any idea when the divisions will be going up?

 

[57]

Gee...
i just realize i m running the new qualifier
wish it was old suzuka east that i m much familiar with
anyway, time to learn the new track ^. .^

 

[audiobbc]

Gee...
i just realize i m running the new qualifier
wish it was old suzuka east that i m much familiar with
anyway, time to learn the new track ^. .^

I'm in the same boat.

 

[GTP_Tzayed]

Forgive me if this has been answered, I checked the last few pages.

I would like to submit a new time for the GTP division qualifier within this qualifier round. Can I simply submit my time from my IFTC race?

 

[Sphinx]

Forgive me if this has been answered, I checked the last few pages.

I would like to submit a new time for the GTP division qualifier within this qualifier round. Can I simply submit my time from my IFTC race?

No.

You are already qualified.

 

[GTP_Tzayed]

No.

You are already qualified.

Very good, thanks.

 

[Sphinx]

Very good, thanks.

But that doesn't mean I won't be taking note of times gained during the IFTC and making adjustments/promotions to those who stand out.

 

[Synwraith]

But that doesn't mean I won't be taking note of times gained during the IFTC and making adjustments/promotions to those who stand out.

Will you be keeping an eye out across all the divisions and their performances relative to other divisions as opposed to just the top times?

If so, then I really do find all the time and effort you've already put in the placings, qualifier, event construction and results interpretation very admirable. I also appreciate it thoroughly.

Sphinx, do you actually get time to race these days?

All the best
Maz