GTP_WRS (GT5) Week 133 : Classic ENDURANCE

[Mamba]

First 14 laps, quite a fun challenge, especially the bus stop section.

27.986
24.050
13.560

Nice start Lucas, hopefully I have enough time to catch you

 

[gm matthew]

27.940
23.672
13.512

EDIT: Managed splits totalling 1:04.840, only to mess up at the bus stop.

EDIT 2: Now had to throw away a 1:04.738 because I cut the bus stop too much.

 

[FordMKIVJ5]

27.940
23.672
13.512

EDIT: Managed splits totalling 1:04.840, only to mess up at the bus stop.

I had a similar moment with 1:05.0 splits, took too much kerb on the second kerb of the bus-stop which sent the timer red. That lap was .2 faster than my current as well.

Also, why on earth did PD think it was a good idea not to include brake markers on the run up to the bus-stop?

 

[whiskyecho96]

Car now at full power, still automatic shifting.
Nice combo, like the track and the car.

28.898
24.797
13.659

 

[ConRollins]

Why do all the settings that can be adjusted have the phrase "But leave settings at stock. Admin verifiable.", but for aero modifications it only has:
Aero Modifications: Stock 20 front / 45 rear is allowed.

Obviously from the start, any stock setting would be allowed so this phrase is, in itself redundant. However by using this phrase on some settings and leaving it off of other settings would lead me to believe that it is ok to adjust settings that do not indicate they must be left at stock settings.

By not having the the phrase "But leave settings at stock. Admin verifiable.", does that mean I can crank it up to 35 front / 60 rear?

Also, I see that "in event" tunning settings are optional. What if I set my brake bias in the garage tunning section and not while actually in the event? Would this violate the rules as I wouldn't be tunning them in the event? Is this verifiable through the replay?

Just clarifying here folks.

 

[Gravitron]

On phone now, but will update the OP when I get to a computer.

Only thing you can change is Brake Balance, whether in tuning screen or while driving.

 

[gm matthew]

27.758
23.707
13.458

Losing a tenth in T1 and T2 each, and probably a bit at the bus stop too.

Also, why on earth did PD think it was a good idea not to include brake markers on the run up to the bus-stop?

Beats me. I can use the flashing gear number as a guide to braking point, but as for the turning point I'm completely lost.

Why do all the settings that can be adjusted have the phrase "But leave settings at stock. Admin verifiable.", but for aero modifications it only has:
Aero Modifications: Stock 20 front / 45 rear is allowed.

Obviously from the start, any stock setting would be allowed so this phrase is, in itself redundant. However by using this phrase on some settings and leaving it off of other settings would lead me to believe that it is ok to adjust settings that do not indicate they must be left at stock settings.

By not having the the phrase "But leave settings at stock. Admin verifiable.", does that mean I can crank it up to 35 front / 60 rear?

Also, I see that "in event" tunning settings are optional. What if I set my brake bias in the garrage tunning section and not while actually in the event? Would this violate the rules as I wouldn't be tunning them in the event? Is this verifiable through the replay?

Just clarifying here folks.

You must keep downforce at 20/45. Brake balance can be freely adjusted even in the garage.

EDIT:

27.725
23.523
13.473

Right on the edge of the track at the bus stop.

 

[FordMKIVJ5]

Beats me. I can use the flashing gear number as a guide to braking point, but as for the turning point I'm completely lost.

It always seems to me that the indicator light isn't consistent though, or at least I'm not as consistent since it's a bit more guesswork.


Nice splits by the way. 👍

 

[EDK]

Also, why on earth did PD think it was a good idea not to include brake markers on the run up to the bus-stop?

I use the light poles, have used them since Prologue.

Once the concrete runoff area at track left transitions to grass, halfway between the first and second pole in my periphery is the braking point I'm using in this car. Downshift to second, flat out to the back of the bus stop and up to 3rd, back down to second with a dab of brake to get the car pointed for the exit, shift back to 3rd before I'm even out of the bus stop.

Also, I see that "in event" tunning settings are optional. What if I set my brake bias in the garage tunning section and not while actually in the event? Would this violate the rules as I wouldn't be tunning them in the event? Is this verifiable through the replay?

Just clarifying here folks.

You can change the brakes wherever you would like, in the in event screen while driving, or the tuning screen. As Tim pointed out in an earlier post, what we are going for here is a car that will make it on track with tuning restricted online. If you are worried about whether you are legal, just go into your own lounge, set it to vehicle tuning prohibited, and go on track. If you don't meet the regs, you have a setting that is illegal for this event.

Your attention to detail is uncanny. Are you by chance an accountant, or the like? If not, you have missed your calling.

New splits for me, I picked up a couple tenths or so on the lap. The car is tricky under braking, I've changed to 3/1. It's possible to take the infield kink flat with an early apex. The second right hander in the infield needs a late apex, after the yellow curb. The left out of the infield has some hidden time if you get back on full throttle as soon as possible (slowish in/fast out).

The bus stop, as always, will separate men from boys.

28.087
23.825
13.547

 

[ConRollins]

Thanks all who responded/answered my questions. And especially thanks to Kevin for pointing out exactly how to tell if your car is stock or not.

To answer Kevin's question, for 30 odd years I did something that I believe requires even more attention to detail than an accountant. I was a project manager in the very technical field of telecommunications. You mean "bean counters" have to be detail oriented also? Go figure!

Edit. An even more special thanks to Kevin for the tip. Did as he suggested, and found my car was not legal. I had changed the final gear ratio so my B Spec driver could halfway keep up while breaking the car in and forgot to set it back to stock. Now I have to throw away a full days work nearly and start over. How's that for attention to detail!!

 

[mjdmzn]

27.967
23.932
13.541

 

[Gravitron]

Went 0.170 faster at T3, then lost it all in T4, and then gained 0.050 at the line in T5.
Obviously there's still work to do.

27.810
23.642
13.563

 

[roamer2629]

I don't know what the other ds3 users think, but these one is very difficult to handle on stock settings, specially throttle with no lsd tuning.

 

[EDK]

I don't know what the other ds3 users think, but these one is very difficult to handle on stock settings, specially throttle with no lsd tuning.

We used to have a lot of pad users participate, so I would keep them in mind when testing.

That number has dwindled over time, so I don't think about them as much. It's more about how the combo will be for lower division drivers in general. I try to take that into account with my initial impressions of car control.

This car does require some finesse at the top of the RPM's in first gear coming out of corners. Not sure if you are using auto trans or not, but if you are shifting yourself, a short shift to second gear is probably going to gain you some consistency, even if you give back a little on your maximum potential. I would still use first to get in, just grab second quickly as you are rolling on the throttle.

 

[roamer2629]

We used to have a lot of pad users participate, so I would keep them in mind when testing.

That number has dwindled over time, so I don't think about them as much. It's more about how the combo will be for lower division drivers in general. I try to take that into account with my initial impressions of car control.

This car does require some finesse at the top of the RPM's in first gear coming out of corners. Not sure if you are using auto trans or not, but if you are shifting yourself, a short shift to second gear is probably going to gain you some consistency, even if you give back a little on your maximum potential. I would still use first to get in, just grab second quickly as you are rolling on the throttle.

Thanks for the advice, I use manual and short-shifting works even if I don't like doing it much.
I know, and think it's evident, how much thought (and work) goes into keeping this league running, and having the majority in mind seems the right criteria to me too.
That said, you guys are going to run circles around me this week
Anyway, first splits
28.757
24.470
13.717

 

[roamer2629]

new splits
28.724
24.381
13.627

 

[Grieco]

Just sent a FR to GTP_3D3Racing so that I can use the shared car.

Thanks!

 

[Gravitron]

OK, but I won't be able to accept it for another 7hrs or so. I was hoping to get the car shared on GTP_3D3_C as well, which I think you're already on, but haven't gotten around to it. Because the main account (GTP_3D3Racing) is so close to the 100 friend limit, we can add you for this week, but may have to drop you when this event is over, to make room for the people who are actively racing with us online.

 

[ItsAllAboutWins]

Just sent a FR to GTP_3D3Racing so that I can use the shared car.

Thanks!

OK, but I won't be able to accept it for another 7hrs or so. I was hoping to get the car shared on GTP_3D3_C as well, which I think you're already on, but haven't gotten around to it. Because the main account (GTP_3D3Racing) is so close to the 100 friend limit, we can add you for this week, but may have to drop you when this event is over, to make room for the people who are actively racing with us online.

You can add me and i'll put a broken in one on share. I won't be running this week

 

[Gravitron]

Thanks Brandon. 👍 That's nice of you.

Also, nice to know I won't be sweating you this week.

 

[ItsAllAboutWins]

Thanks Brandon. 👍 That's nice of you.

Also, nice to know I won't be sweating you this week.

No problem Lucas. Always happy to help out.

I would have had a lot of fun again this week. I ran about 10 laps this morning and was only a second off the div 1 guys, but I've got a lot to do this week and I wouldn't be able to put in a good effort.

Have fun everyone. Car Will be on share if anyone else wants it too.

GTP Wins

Edit: nevermind. My internet is cut off. Taking my daughter to the hospital put me behind on my bills and I won't be able to pay it for a couple of days

 

[Gravitron]

Sorry to hear that Brandon.

I am going to be delayed in getting to the PS3 tonight, so I can't accept FR's or try to get the car on share on GTP_3D3_C until about 6hrs from now.

 

[Carlos Fandango]

First ten laps. Never driven the car or track in anger steep learning curve!!
28.090
24.131
13.664

 

[Gravitron]

You can do it, Jon. 👍 20-30 lap no-restart sessions is where it's at.

So I'm trying to cycle a '67 ticket on GTP_3D3_C right now, so far have gotten a Cougar and Miura, and I said no to both. This is tough!

EDIT: 3rd time's the charm. 👍 Breaking it in now.

EDIT2: Put a stock Ford on share from GTP_3D3_C.

Also added a bunch of FR's from my GTP_Gravitron account, as I've gotten behind with all these new folk.

 

[AspecBob]

Slowly taming the beast. Will post splits eventually.

Chris, are you using ABS 10, as you often do, with that 3/1 BB? Thanks for the video, by the way.

Pretty sure on which side of the man/boys divide I will end up, but I'll give it a go anyways!

 

[Vagabond]

Chris, are you using ABS 10, as you often do, with that 3/1 BB? Thanks for the video, by the way.

Yeah, I pretty much always use ABS 10 automatically... I'm not even sure what difference it makes any more.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Well, after a few days of rest, back at it with this one. Daytona Road is not one of my better tracks and the car I have driven maybe once, so should be a good learning experience, this one. Still not feeling the best, but better than before anyways. So, with all my excuses set forth and out of the way, time to climb in, buckle up, and get going down that road......Daytona Road that is, high banks and tricky turns!! (A bad reference to the Beverly Hillbilly's song. )

 

[ItsAllAboutWins]

Well, after a few days of rest, back at it with this one. Daytona Road is not one of my better tracks and the car I have driven maybe once, so should be a good learning experience, this one. Still not feeling the best, but better than before anyways. So, with all my excuses set forth and out of the way, time to climb in, buckle up, and get going down that road......Daytona Road that is, high banks and tricky turns!! (A bad reference to the Beverly Hillbilly's song. )

Go get em Mitch

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Go get em Mitch

I'll do my best, but actually not looking to set any records with this one. Pretty much more of a learning experience this one. Not much experience with the car or the track, so we'll just hope for the best and NGU. 👍

 

[whiskyecho96]

Now with manual shifting.

28.579
24.895
13.856