GTP_WRS (GT5) Week 43 : Hyper-Dan's Spanish Holiday

[Manuelos]

I had some problems beating those splits but I finally put 2 good ones together:
T1: 37.481
T2: 33.731

Your turn.

Don't think I'm going to beat that. My last splits were very close to my limit

 

[Diomiro]

Here are my final splits. Don't have any time for WRS this weekend anymore Parts of my hands hurting already anyway. The leather on the 27 isn't the smoothest. Probably need to relax more while driving :-D

37.886
33.865

 

[Vagabond]

They are not neccesarily a good indicator of how good a driver you might be potentially in my opinion.

Of course they are... you say some very strange and counter intuitive things Jack Any combo you drive is an indicator of your talent. Obviously the more time you spend on one event and the more you enjoy it, the better result you will achieve but the license tests consist of a good variety of combos and skill tests and are actually a very good indicator of skill level.

Back to this event... I saw some great sector times last night but failed to capitalise on them, so today I'm hopefuly looking for a good improvement if I can nail the lap together. Best 1st sector now 37.359 and 2nd sector 33.712. Here's hoping....

Best of luck to Wes, Wayne and Manuelos

 

[anastasis14]

Can't seem to get the hang of T1...
T2 reminds me I'm in 1st division
I also achieved a T3, equal to T2

38.432
33.843

 

[boediebouer]

A little improvement with the tune Manuelos posted:

T1: 37.608
T2: 33.701

 

[CSLACR]

It turned out I didn't have the car after all, so I'll probably miss the week again.
Busy busy weekend, sooner or later I'll get in one of these again, I swear.

Good luck guys, Wes is always on a mission at these city tracks.

 

[jack5428]

Of course they are... you say some very strange and counter intuitive things Jack Any combo you drive is an indicator of your talent. Obviously the more time you spend on one event and the more you enjoy it, the better result you will achieve but the license tests consist of a good variety of combos and skill tests and are actually a very good indicator of skill level.

The licensce tests are a joke plain and simple and nothing more. Perhaps you dont remember that skid recovery force is turned on automatically and cant be turned off? Anything you might learn about any given corner all of a sudden becomes totaly useless to you because you can do crazy wild moves not even possible with it turned off.

No after I got my first top ten and then the PSN network went down I used the time in what i thought was good practice golding all the licensce tests and on some of them once I figured out how to gold them or beat the example driver whichever was lower I could see how to ultraly destroy that time and so I did until I just couldnt eek another thousandth out of them. I took my practice quite seriously.

So I get down to like the last test or 2 I need for gold and I then realised what skid recovery force actually does it lets you do total fantasy moves.

It took a long time to get that style of driving out of my mind and get my pre licensce test skills back up to par.

You think there good huh? Or did you just look for a way to try and say Im wrong and your right yet again which is what I think your really doing Vagabond.

 

[GTP_Plato]

The licensce tests are a joke plain and simple and nothing more. Perhaps you dont remember that skid recovery force is turned on automatically and cant be turned off? Anything you might learn about any given corner all of a sudden becomes totaly useless to you because you can do crazy wild moves not even possible with it turned off.

No after I got my first top ten and then the PSN network went down I used the time in what i thought was good practice golding all the licensce tests and on some of them once I figured out how to gold them or beat the example driver whichever was lower I could see how to ultraly destroy that time and so I did until I just couldnt eek another thousandth out of them. I took my practice quite seriously.

So I get down to like the last test or 2 I need for gold and I then realised what skid recovery force actually does it lets you do total fantasy moves.

It took a long time to get that style of driving out of my mind and get my pre licensce test skills back up to par.

You think there good huh? Or did you just look for a way to try and say Im wrong and your right yet again which is what I think your really doing Vagabond.

So I take it you golded all licences first time with no problems?

Even the best players on the game wouldn't of achieved golds on there first attempt

Going to agree with Chris on this one, SRF may be forced on for these events but it's the same for everybody, as has been said there are people that have struggled with the licence tests that are in your division. Everybody has strengths and weaknesses.

I may be back for next weeks WRS as I have nearly completed my career, just some of the special events and enduro's to go (not that I will be doing all enduro's in a hurry)

Look forward to competing with you all, and the new guys

 

[EDK]

When I got my first top ten finish in a seasonal TT and I only had 4 golds on the licensce tests.

They are not neccesarily a good indicator of how good a driver you might be potentially in my opinion.

Heres why. For me when I consciously think about all the driving rules Ill drive the ideal line and such but Ill do it slowly.

I have yet to figure out just why that is but after taking a break from GT5 that was one of the first things that just smacked me hard in the face the most doing this week.

WTF im doing what your suppose to and Im going slower not faster because I did what your suppose to do?

Thats just the way it is I guess. lol

I'm thinking the tires have as much to do with your struggles as SRF. How many cars with this much HP are on the license tests using N3 tires?

I find that I'm up to speed more quickly on weeks that we use Comfort tires than weeks with sports or race tires. It's easier to find the limit on these. But if you push past the limit, the punishment is severe.

You think there good huh? Or did you just look for a way to try and say Im wrong and your right yet again which is what I think your really doing Vagabond.

That's just uncalled for. Chris is right, you do say some strange and counter-intuitive things.

Personally, I liked this one, that you put on the OLR survey that we put up to understand what people wanted from online racing here -

[FONT=&quot]You know the Division rankings in no way whatsoever reflect a persons actual average skill level at GT5 dont you? Me for example. My actual average skill level is probably D4 but Im ranked D2 silver. Why I think this is everyones initial splits after a few hours trying are way better than mine...maybe Im more a D5 than D4 actually. Yeah in the end after a monster effort I can and have placed top ten in seasonal TTs and in my D2 division I can almost win except there are guys Im absolutly sure should be ranked D1 and can sit down and in one short session have initial splits within a tenth of my final best splits. If they want to win D2 they just try a second session. We couldnt race together online fairly head to head. I would get lapped in about ten laps most likely. This is why I probably will never even consider trying to race online agianst anyone who does the WRS TTs regularly. Everyones really dang good alot better than me at first at any track in any car.[/FONT]

So apparently not only are the license tests a poor measure of talent, but so is the qualifier, as well as the WRS events each week.

 

[GTP_Plato]

I just completed the licence tests today, there are some tests that are a lot harder than others, it took me a few attempts on some of them to gold them, so I can see for myself why people struggle to get all 60 golds 👍

 

[Speedy6543]

It turned out I didn't have the car after all, so I'll probably miss the week again.

The car is in the OCD at the moment. 👍

 

[ryanerb]

Ok here is a fun one for you. I think its clean (though I had to cycle replays a few times)

Click pictures for the full size version
Here is an image entering the corner:



And here is an image at the apex of the corner:


I dont see contact (though I dont think I could get any closer)... Can I post this time?

 

[anastasis14]

Can't see were I'm losing a whole second it T1

 

[ryanerb]

Can't see were I'm losing a whole second it T1

I see where I am... Stop focusing on the chicane, thats not the place where the second is... its the circle I bet doing it to you. Thats where it is for me after about 100 completed laps on this. I picked up time in every other split but that first one too...

 

[EDK]

Ok here is a fun one for you. I think its clean (though I had to cycle replays a few times)

Click pictures for the full size version
Here is an image entering the corner:



And here is an image at the apex of the corner:


I dont see contact (though I dont think I could get any closer)... Can I post this time?

You need to load the lap into the data logger to see if there's an abrupt drop in speed at that moment. That's what we would look at to see if the lap is clean, you can't rely on pictures alone to validate contact situations.

 

[Diomiro]

Couldnt submit my time. Checked the replay and saw the car movin through the barrier in the first chicane. Couldnt notice it while driving but i suppose its dirty. Hope for more luck (and time) next week. Was a lot of fun in the first week for me.

Edit: refering to edk, if the visible touch had no effect to the car, wud it be ok to submit then? I will check the logger tomorrow

 

[Vagabond]

Can't see were I'm losing a whole second it T1

There's a possible 2 tenths in nailing the chicane exit just right for the drag up the hill. About another 0.4 on the roundabout exit, and same again taking the sweeping left hander flat out.

And then not braking too early for the 90 left hander after T1...

Another micro-step for me. Having trouble getting through the chicane again.... at all... keep just swerving staight into the barrier on entry. Anyway, faster is faster:

37.447
33.823

According to the annoying Theoretical Fastest Lap on my spreadsheet, I can go about another 0.3 on the lap but I'm already doing way better than I expected at this track so any improvement now will be a big bonus. Nice one.

You think there good huh? Or did you just look for a way to try and say Im wrong and your right yet again which is what I think your really doing Vagabond.

What? If you meant do I think I'm that good... what does that have to do with it anyway? But yes, I'm saying you're wrong, which I suppose implies that I also think I am right... which coincidentally, I do. If you don't want people to disagree with you, stop throwing your opinions around like confetti.

 

[EDK]

Edit: refering to edk, if the visible touch had no effect to the car, wud it be ok to submit then? I will check the logger tomorrow

If you touch the wall, the lap is dirty. Doesn't matter if it affected the car or not.

 

[ryanerb]

You need to load the lap into the data logger to see if there's an abrupt drop in speed at that moment. That's what we would look at to see if the lap is clean, you can't rely on pictures alone to validate contact situations.

Thanks. I will look at the logger a little later. I am fairly certain there is no sudden drop in speed but i will have to be sure. I think i was feathering the throttle there. It didnt red lap me but i know these tts are a bit more strict and there is that rule "barriers visible and invisible"

This lap is WAY faster than my current submitted one though I think my speed is in T3 because my first two splits dont look much better than the ones i have on the leadeeboard meaning I should be able to get one second faster once i clean up my T1 time

 

[Diomiro]

Alright thanks EDK.

 

[Nish]

Added on the engine modifications and now I can't get within half a second. Seem's like I have ton's of torque understeer now and not launching any faster. Time to test some of you guy's set-up's I guess. I have no doubt it will help alot.

 

[EDK]

Added on the engine modifications and now I can't get within half a second. Seem's like I have ton's of torque understeer now and not launching any faster. Time to test some of you guy's set-up's I guess. I have no doubt it will help alot.

You can play around with different configurations of added parts. I've found that it also changes the shape of the torque curve. Peak torque is only one aspect.

 

[GTP_Plato]

stop throwing your opinions around like confetti.

I don't think wedding bells are on the cards here

How about using one of the licence tests in a future WRS event, what do you guys think?

 

[Nish]

You can play around with different configurations of added parts. I've found that it also changes the shape of the torque curve. Peak torque is only one aspect.

That was my next step, thank's EDK. I've had past car's ruined by doing the engine tuning in the past which is why I was so cautions toward's the idea but alas here I am . I'm confident I can get used to it and sure the set-up's found here will help but I hope I see this car in the UCD shortly. Off to run a few lap's .

 

[anastasis14]

I don't think wedding bells are on the cards here

How about using one of the licence tests in a future WRS event, what do you guys think?

I thought about that too, no T1 T2 splits to post, and 30 seconds are max to the licenses...

 

[Energizerrr]

From what I read (don't blame me if I read/understood wrong) - no test in GT5 is a true measure of a player's skill on GT5.
The only thing that comes close is WRS, and that's why I'm in.

 

[eclipsee]

Some say he can catch flies with his tongue, some say his true skin color is green, all we know is he's called Hyper-Dan.

Here are my splits:

37.297
33.502

I'm using Manuelos variant of MadMax86's original setup with these changes:

Torgue split 45/55

Gearbox:

4327
3445
2825
2335
1946
1640
2500 (origin 3300)
180 km/h

 

[Nish]

Just ran a combination of the setup's here and my own and dropped my final be a whole click... then forgot to save it . Didn't realise it until I opened up my book to see I never recorded any split's. Also I restored a GT5 save I had from a couple day's ago to re-buy the car and finally be rid of those pesky engine changes. Guess I go run again.

 

[Speedy6543]

You can always send the car from your main account to have two of them.
Then you'll have one with the stage three engine and one without.

Edit:
I'll do this this evening.

 

[Vagabond]

Wooooosh!!

Crapping hell Ramon It's kind of depressing...