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Yeah, its usually advantageous to pit 1 lap early; the flipside is you have to put 1 more lap on the next stint, and since this race was fairly even, 11-12-12 was the winning strat, not the 10-12-13 ;p
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but we pitted at the end of lap 11. I had planned to do one more lap. I think you did a 12 lap first stint? im not sure what got into the lm race car of mine but it was a scary ride the entire race. full 360 in the 130R. off at degners...my favorite corner was the spoon curve.

The 130R was terrifying now that i think about it.
 
Blaze_409
but we pitted at the end of lap 11. I had planned to do one more lap. I think you did a 12 lap first stint? im not sure what got into the lm race car of mine but it was a scary ride the entire race. full 360 in the 130R. off at degners...my favorite corner was the spoon curve.

The 130R was terrifying now that i think about it.
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End of 11 - 1 pace lap = 10 race laps.

Yes, 130R is very scary. and the exit of degner got me once fairly bad, but no damage :P
 
Blaze_409
The 130R was terrifying now that i think about it.
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Hahaha yea, several times had to turn right to go around the curb/turf to avoid the chance of going sideways on it.

Those 3 times behind you, each time I let out earlier, and the last even on the brakes and still missed it. Not sure what the issue was, lol.. Im going to blame aero wash off your car, even though was 12-15 cars back? lol.
 
tissimo
Hahaha yea, several times had to turn right to go around the curb/turf to avoid the chance of going sideways on it.

Those 3 times behind you, each time I let out earlier, and the last even on the brakes and still missed it. Not sure what the issue was, lol.. Im going to blame aero wash off your car, even though was 12-15 cars back? lol.
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I had that same problem on lap 1 of two of my stints and toward the end of each stint, i was slowing down to 140mph just to play it safe through 130R. Every lap got scarier and scarier.
 
what was fast lap and who set it i was so upset that i did not save replay.


penalties in order? i noticed last week also there were people outside the white lines
 
luckylefty2gunz
what was fast lap and who set it i was so upset that i did not save replay.


penalties in order? i noticed last week also there were people outside the white lines
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I forgot to save the replay too and am kicking myself. I am not sure of the fast lap, but i remember some people saying 49.2 was the quickest they ran, so if you ran faster than that, assume fast lap.

I wouldn't think penalties would be necessary as the two times I did it, i let off the gas as to avoid dieing and gaining any position or advantage. It was more a driving error than a track cut. Of course I can;t necessarily speak for everybody, but i would think most people went wide there just as error and not to get an advantage.
 
freshseth83
I didn't bother racing this race as I saw no interest in div. 2. Maybe next Sunday there'll be more players.
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There were 4 of us who entered the race. You could have joined. It would have been nice if there were more, but we don't interest you in div. 2 though. Your comments are really nice.:crazy:
They had a spot open on Div.1. You could have went there if you would have shown up. 💡
 
I was really surprised at the performance difference between the cars at Suzuka. Hopefully it wont be that bad at the remaining tracks.

As for 130R, I went wide there a few times times and am disappointed with my self about it.
 
Last night i was meticulously trying to determine the difference between the lm spec II race car and the Test car.
These are the condition i tested under:
1. Identical Setups
2. My best Tune for Test car vs My best tune for LM Race Car

My best tune for lm race car was great at daytona....The only problem was the straights and the bus stop where the Zonda and the Test Car where significantly more stable. I managed a 1:37.0. with the white ford
With my best tune for the Test Car I managed 1:36.3 at Daytona. (the cheekily raced veloci with 650hp in the test car and ran a 1:34.6 which had him confused until i explained the 650hp lol).........

Then i went to lemans to figure out who was winning the stright line speed wars. I dragged both cars and simply let it crash into the tire wall next to the first mulsanne chicane. Max aero and both geraboxes set to 224mph
1. Ford GT LM Test Car 202MPH
2.Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II 200MPH

looks simple enough right? But theres more to it. I noticed that the Ford Test Car was hitting 200mph before the first brake marker for the mulsanne chicane. and then it just ticked over to 202 between the First brake marker(150) and the tire wall.

Strangely for the LM race car it only reached 199 when i got to the Last brake marker (50) for the mulsanne. and then ticked over to 200.

ive tried so many thins with gear ratios and makes no difference

As weve already seen in every practice race the test car schools the lm race car in low end grunt. the test car schools everyone lol. But i was really surprised about the Top end comparison and specifically what was happening as the cars reached top end. The test car got there faster and to a higher by 2mph. especially considering the that the lm race car has 29 more horses.....
And if that wasnt enough because i was so intrigued I decided to take a look at the fuel mileage runs of the test car and all the other cars from suzuka. I realized that because the Test car has 571hp its actually gets noticeably better fuel mileage(on the order of the end of a usb drives width of extra fuel in the tank).....

this doesnt speak to the rest of the cars i the field. Just thought you guys might like something to read

on another note. That Nissan GTR concept lm is one sweet ride

Also Points Standings for Top 4 look like such
1. Veloci - 49 points
2. Tissimo - 45 Points
3. Blaze - 41 Points
4. Lucky - 36 Points
 
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This pretty much confirms what I have been thinking all along. The test car has better torque and grip. So when you take away power you only help tire wear and fuel consumption.

I think a better idea would be to balance the cars with weight rather than power. The test car could be given more power and 75kg more weight. This would be a better compromise I think, thoughts?
 
Test car was spec'd 550 HP in season 1

The Zonda has a clear advantage at 650hp. Not sure here. Maybe 600hp

The Ford Spec II also a very lethal car at 600. Maybe 570-580 would suit it better.

Outside those three all others seem relatively close.
 
OwensRacing
The Zonda has a clear advantage at 650hp. Not sure here. Maybe 600hp
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The zonda is a pain to drive. Reason why it was picked last and why its gets 650hp ;)

You even said yourself the zonda is no good and stupid to pick it. Me and veloci who also mentioned that countless hours were spend on tuning it to get it at the top at Suzuki.

Suzuki is a demanding track for drivers. Sure look at lucky, he pulled out a .5 of a second out of nowhere thinking the zonda was the fastest car out there.
 
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To be honest. You guys must of been on cruise control the whole race. I was 1+ seconds down in quali, never going faster then 50.1 in the race iirc and only managed 26 seconds down. I had a very aggressive pace knowing I was so far down on time. My quali was only a 50.48 putting me 8th, over almost 1.5 seconds down on P1! Same went for Lucky at Indy, easily 30+ seconds up so no need to run hard but outpacing me with ease.
 
tissimo
To be honest. You guys must of been on cruise control the whole race. I was 1+ seconds down in quali, never going faster then 50.1 in the race iirc and only managed 26 seconds down. I had a very aggressive pace knowing I was so far down on time. My quali was only a 50.48 putting me 8th, over almost 1.5 seconds down on P1! Same went for Lucky at Indy, easily 30+ seconds up so no need to run hard but outpacing me with ease.
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My fastest lap was only 50.5

Been honest i thought the viper would do alot better at Suzuki.

But last season at indy i believe owens and atlas got into the 1.25's for qualy and this season the viper was in the mid 23's?

Point being physics of the cars have changed alot after 2.0
 
Im the only one here of you guys currently chatting that has not had the pace to win.....
Tissimo won Spa
Test Car won INdy
Zonda's home runned at Suzy.

Ive been consistently slow. i lose out on top end to the zonda's and Test cAr(181mph). And Viper(182mph) at end of suzuka straight.
Same thing happen at Indy and Spa. Just not good enough. i drive like a cat from hell to keep up with you guys.

tissimo
Hahaha yea, several times had to turn right to go around the curb/turf to avoid the chance of going sideways on it.

Those 3 times behind you, each time I let out earlier, and the last even on the brakes and still missed it. Not sure what the issue was, lol.. Im going to blame aero wash off your car, even though was 12-15 cars back? lol.
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Magzire
My fastest lap was only 50.5

Been honest i thought the viper would do alot better at Suzuki.

But last season at indy i believe owens and atlas got into the 1.25's for qualy and this season the viper was in the mid 23's?

Point being physics of the cars have changed alot after 2.0
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but heres the thing. i never drove these cars prior to spec 2.0 so spec 2.0 didnt affect my tunes.

And heres the thing wit hyour 50.5fast lap...i magine you did this on a two stop strategy. Most of use ran 3 stops. I pitted on lap 32. i had less than a quarter of a tank and New tires. I was bound to set fast lap at a 49.3. i had hardly any fuel in the car. my fast lap prior to the 49.3 was a 50.9. the weight made a huge difference in full tanks you guys just drove away.
 
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Magzire
My fastest lap was only 50.5

Been honest i thought the viper would do alot better at Suzuki.

But last season at indy i believe owens and atlas got into the 1.25's for qualy and this season the viper was in the mid 23's?

Point being physics of the cars have changed alot after 2.0
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Lol with pulling 49.2s in practice and only running a 50.5 you were definitely on cruise control.


Blaze_409
Im the only one here of you guys currently chatting that has not had the pace to win.....
Tissimo won Spa
Test Car won INdy
Zonda's home runned at Suzy.

Ive been consistently slow. i lose out on top end to the zonda's and Test cAr(181mph). And Viper(182mph) at end of suzuka straight.
Same thing happen at Indy and Spa. Just not good enough. i drive like a cat from hell to keep up with you guys.





but heres the thing. i never drove these cars prior to spec 2.0 so spec 2.0 didnt affect my tunes.

And heres the thing wit hyour 50.5fast lap...i magine you did this on a two stop strategy. Most of use ran 3 stops. I pitted on lap 32. i had less than a quarter of a tank and New tires. I was bound to set fast lap at a 49.3. i had hardly any fuel in the car. my fast lap prior to the 49.3 was a 50.9. the weight made a huge difference in full tanks you guys just drove away.
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I was planning on a 3 stop strategy, but figured I'd try for a 2 stop since it was what the leaders were doing. So Followed the leader, lol... I drove pretty hard every lap (95%) trying to stay close enough to the leaders if a mistake would happen I could benefit (like Spa).
 
lol no joke you'll only get 3 laps doing 49.2s . Comes down to the driver at the end of the day. How you know i couldnt get that in the viper or better ;)
 
tissimo
Hahaha yea, several times had to turn right to go around the curb/turf to avoid the chance of going sideways on it.

Those 3 times behind you, each time I let out earlier, and the last even on the brakes and still missed it. Not sure what the issue was, lol.. Im going to blame aero wash off your car, even though was 12-15 cars back? lol.
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Magzire
lol no joke you'll only get 3 laps doing 49.2s . Comes down to the driver at the end of the day. How you know i couldnt get that in the viper or better ;)
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The fact that the car is capable of 492's means al lyou need to do is back off and cruise around at a 50.0......most of use couldnt even do that lol. on the limit in qualy i had a 49.8. if i tried to save tires id be run 52s. Youd be running 1:51's of you tried to save tires. the fact that you have that pace in reserve is the nail in the coffin.
 
Blaze_409
The fact that the car is capable of 492's means al lyou need to do is back off and cruise around at a 50.0......most of use couldnt even do that lol. on the limit in qualy i had a 49.8. if i tried to save tires id be run 51s. Youd be running 1:50's of you tried to save tires.
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Should of picked the zonda then lol jk. Zonda was strong at suzuki. With only one race win under its belt. No need to bash it yet :)

Also my bmw was a full 2 secs slower at nurb last season. Just the way it goes somethings
 
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