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[Blaze_409]

Lol, looking at the replay its really interesting....

whats going on?

 

[Magzire]

The zonda gets a taste of victory and everyone freaks out loool

 

[VELOCI_2NR]

The zonda gets a taste of victory and everyone freaks out loool

Yea let's all go back to hating the real destroyer of cars, the GT Test car. That thing has been the car to beat every race, just two of those races lucky had some bad luck (irony much?). With its first-class speed (even with being castrated more than any other car), its great tire wear, and ease of drive-ability, that car is a monster in the right hands.

Yes the Zonda is quick as well, but I am putting countless hours into making it a real race car, not just a fast-lapper. The only way to get any kind of tire life in the car is to put it on cruise control and keep the tires quiet, because a quiet tire is a happy tire.

Lets go back to hating on the real culprit, the GT Test.

 

[tissimo]

Ok here we go.. Lap times

for top 5 ppl.

Lap     Blaze     tissimo     Lucky     Magzire     Veloci
2          56.3      58.6        54.2       55.6         55.0
3          53.4      52.7        53.6       51.5         51.2
4          50.8      51.3        51.8       50.8         50.5
5          51.0      50.9        51.2       50.5         51.1
6          51.4      51.8        51.3       51,6         50.9
7          52.0      52.4        52.1       51.3         51.3
8          53.3      56.2        52.3       52.9         51.9
9          53.4      53.6        53.5       53.3         52.0
10         53.3      53.7        54.6       54.5         53.8
11         In        In          In          In          56.1
12         out      out         out         out          In
13         55.8      50.1        52.2       50.4          out
14         51.4      51.7        49.9       50.4         49.9
15         50.8      51.5        50.8       51.3         50.2
16         51.1      52.1        50.2       50.8         50.0
17         52.2      52.1        51.3       51.4         50.5
18         55.9      53.7        52.2       51.7         51.0
19         55.7      54.0        52.1       52.1         51.5
20         53.8      53.0        52.6       52.8         52.4
21         54.0      54.1        53.4       53.5         52.7
22         54.6      54.9        54.2       54.2         53.2
23          In        56.1        In          In         53.8
24          out       In          out        out           In
25         52.8      out         52.2       49.9          out
26         51.4      50.5        49.6       50.6         49.6
27         51.4      51.3        50.2       50.7         49.6
28         51.4      50.7        50.4       50.7         50.2
29         52.6      51.4        51.1       51.6         50.7
30         52.7      51.7        52.2       51.7         58.9
31          In       52.8        00.9       52.3         51.7
32         out       53.3        56.8       52.9         52.8
33         49.3      53.0        56.4       53.5         52.7
34         50.1      53.5        56.7       01.8         55.5
35         50.8      53.9        56.2       56.1         54.8
36         50.5      54.6        57.1       57.3         55.6
Gap      +38.6     +24.4       +19.2      +14.0       ------

whats going on?

Nothing really, just the lack of pace vs quali.. I find that very interesting.

 

[Peter.]

take 13 laps around Suzuki and come back to me

Mag, I will definitely take that Zonda from you. No questions asked. Maybe you can get the CLK to work, but I simply cannot.

 

[Blaze_409]

Ok here we go.. Lap times

for top 5 ppl.

Lap     Blaze     tissimo     Lucky     Magzire     Veloci
2          56.3      58.6        54.2       55.6         55.0
3          53.4      52.7        53.6       51.5         51.2
4          50.8      51.3        51.8       50.8         50.5
5          51.0      50.9        51.2       50.5         51.1
6          51.4      51.8        51.3       51,6         50.9
7          52.0      52.4        52.1       51.3         51.3
8          53.3      56.2        52.3       52.9         51.9
9          53.4      53.6        53.5       53.3         52.0
10         53.3      53.7        54.6       54.5         53.8
11         In        In          In          In          56.1
12         out      out         out         out          In
13         55.8      50.1        52.2       50.4          out
14         51.4      51.7        49.9       50.4         49.9
15         50.8      51.5        50.8       51.3         50.2
16         51.1      52.1        50.2       50.8         50.0
17         52.2      52.1        51.3       51.4         50.5
18         55.9      53.7        52.2       51.7         51.0
19         55.7      54.0        52.1       52.1         51.5
20         53.8      53.0        52.6       52.8         52.4
21         54.0      54.1        53.4       53.5         52.7
22         54.6      54.9        54.2       54.2         53.2
23          In        56.1        In          In         53.8
24          out       In          out        out           In
25         52.8      out         52.2       49.9          out
26         51.4      50.5        49.6       50.6         49.6
27         51.4      51.3        50.2       50.7         49.6
28         51.4      50.7        50.4       50.7         50.2
29         52.6      51.4        51.1       51.6         50.7
30         52.7      51.7        52.2       51.7         58.9
31          In       52.8        00.9       52.3         51.7
32         out       53.3        56.8       52.9         52.8
33         49.3      53.0        56.4       53.5         52.7
34         50.1      53.5        56.7       01.8         55.5
35         50.8      53.9        56.2       56.1         54.8
36         50.5      54.6        57.1       57.3         55.6
Gap      +38.6     +24.4       +19.2      +14.0       ------

Zonda Tire wear my ass lol. Zonda tire wear is not a legitamate exscuse. despite what you think about the zonda. all the other cars are worse.........

If you can baby the car around running 1:50's and save tires while im driving like a bat out of hell and cant pull a 1:50 for my life then we gots issues lol.

 

[VELOCI_2NR]

Nothing really, just the lack of pace vs quali.. I find that very interesting.

Are you really surprised? Race pace is usually slower than quali pace, as we cannot go all out for fear of crashing and overusing our tires. Yes I backed off during the race, but that was solely for the purpose of tire conservation, as this car has drastically worse tire drop off than the other cars when pushed. Your viper, as you said yourself, is easy to drive, and therefore will give you better tire wear comparatively when pushing the car, as you seem to be able to all race. I am working extremely hard to get this car fast, easy to drive, and attempting prolong tire wear.

 

[tissimo]

Yea let's all go back to hating the real destroyer of cars, the GT Test car. That thing has been the car to beat every race, just two of those races lucky had some bad luck (irony much?). With its first-class speed (even with being castrated more than any other car), its great tire wear, and ease of drive-ability, that car is a monster in the right hands.

Yes the Zonda is quick as well, but I am putting countless hours into making it a real race car, not just a fast-lapper. The only way to get any kind of tire life in the car is to put it on cruise control and keep the tires quiet, because a quiet tire is a happy tire.

Lets go back to hating on the real culprit, the GT Test.

Thats fine and all, but when I try to race you and you're taking it easy and have 1 second in the bag at any given time and im 100% sucks. It also sucks for quali and Fast lap bonus points.

 

[Blaze_409]

Thats fine and all, but when I try to race you and you're taking it easy and have 1 second in the bag at any given time and im 100% sucks. It also sucks for quali and Fast lap bonus points.

agree. backing off is not in my vocabulary.

and i feel like ive wasted so much time here tuning. i have an A tune a B tune and a freaking C tune lol. and i tested every single one at suzuka.

Tissimo those are some really cool stats you posted there.

 

[luckylefty2gunz]

Ok here we go.. Lap times

for top 5 ppl.

Lap     Blaze     tissimo     Lucky     Magzire     Veloci
2          56.3      58.6        54.2       55.6         55.0
3          53.4      52.7        53.6       51.5         51.2
4          50.8      51.3        51.8       50.8         50.5
5          51.0      50.9        51.2       50.5         51.1
6          51.4      51.8        51.3       51,6         50.9
7          52.0      52.4        52.1       51.3         51.3
8          53.3      56.2        52.3       52.9         51.9
9          53.4      53.6        53.5       53.3         52.0
10         53.3      53.7        54.6       54.5         53.8
11         In        In          In          In          56.1
12         out      out         out         out          In
13         55.8      50.1        52.2       50.4          out
14         51.4      51.7        49.9       50.4         49.9
15         50.8      51.5        50.8       51.3         50.2
16         51.1      52.1        50.2       50.8         50.0
17         52.2      52.1        51.3       51.4         50.5
18         55.9      53.7        52.2       51.7         51.0
19         55.7      54.0        52.1       52.1         51.5
20         53.8      53.0        52.6       52.8         52.4
21         54.0      54.1        53.4       53.5         52.7
22         54.6      54.9        54.2       54.2         53.2
23          In        56.1        In          In         53.8
24          out       In          out        out           In
25         52.8      out         52.2       49.9          out
26         51.4      50.5        49.6       50.6         49.6
27         51.4      51.3        50.2       50.7         49.6
28         51.4      50.7        50.4       50.7         50.2
29         52.6      51.4        51.1       51.6         50.7
30         52.7      51.7        52.2       51.7         58.9
31          In       52.8        00.9       52.3         51.7
32         out       53.3        56.8       52.9         52.8
33         49.3      53.0        56.4       53.5         52.7
34         50.1      53.5        56.7       01.8         55.5
35         50.8      53.9        56.2       56.1         54.8
36         50.5      54.6        57.1       57.3         55.6
Gap      +38.6     +24.4       +19.2      +14.0       ------

Nothing really, just the lack of pace vs quali.. I find that very interesting.

like i said maybe you guys should start testing in race mode, this has helped me and maybe just maybe it could help you to.
this chart shows very close times for all cars. sleight differences are driver error. these cars where tested by admin and deemed competitive so you had your choices and chose what was available when your number was called. stop hating on each others cars yes test car is good but why am i up front and the other test cars are running mid pack at best sorry guys, but it's true. just like you guys with the zonda's i test a lot. i only practice for this series and thats it for gt5, i put in about 10 hours per week testing for this series. so i know about testing also

 

[freshseth83]

What were the times @Spa? I just tested the Zonda and did a 2:05.5

 

[Blaze_409]

like i said maybe you guys should start testing in race mode, this has helped me and maybe just maybe it could help you to.
this chart shows very close times for all cars. sleight differences are driver error.

I stopped on track right at the exit of the 130R to avoid Pipi and then resumed in the first 10 laps.....can you guess which one that is based on the lap time..... no you cannot......

Can you guess which lap I wiped out on the 130 R on no you cannot. And mind you i did not pit on teh next lap after any of these incidents so it wasnt the in lap.

that goes to show you how much driver error is not involved in these lap times. On a clean lap that was the pace i had given tire wear etc.... the fact that i can do a 360 degree turn and then run a 1:52 lap shows you that little mistakes like not taking the spoon curve at 80mph but rather 78mph makes even less of a difference in lap time.

 

[tissimo]

like i said maybe you guys should start testing in race mode, this has helped me and maybe just maybe it could help you to.
this chart shows very close times for all cars. sleight differences are driver error. these cars where tested by admin and deemed competitive so you had your choices and chose what was available when your number was called. stop hating on each others cars yes test car is good but why am i up front and the other test cars are running mid pack at best sorry guys, but it's true. just like you guys with the zonda's i test a lot. i only practice for this series and thats it for gt5, i put in about 10 hours per week testing for this series. so i know about testing also

Test in racing mode? That doesn't even make sense to the argument being made. The test car and Zonda have clearly shown their superior pace. I get they're not 100% at stable full tilt. In the race you're taking a safe pace while I'm full tilt running 100% to match it. The cars are unbalanced, and we're making our argument to Jav.

 

[VELOCI_2NR]

I'd like to present my argument then. i did a couple laps in each of their cars, Viper and white Ford GT and easily ran low 50s. Now that may not seem that fast, but that was with basically default setups, no bolt-on parts, no oil change on the viper, no chassis refurb, no seat time in the car, and no real desire to go any faster, as i believe my point is proven. These cars are quick in their current state, and it is not that the other cars are faster. Both of your cars had faster corner speeds than my Zonda, especially the ford, and the Viper has such an easy-to-drive demeanor that you could just mash the throttle out of the corner. Neither of you should be complaining.

 

[Blaze_409]

I'd like to present my argument then. i did a couple laps in each of their cars, Viper and white Ford GT and easily ran low 50s. Now that may not seem that fast, but that was with basically default setups, no bolt-on parts, no oil change on the viper, no chassis refurb, no seat time in the car, and no real desire to go any faster, as i believe my point is proven. These cars are quick in their current state, and it is not that the other cars are faster. Both of your cars had faster corner speeds than my Zonda, especially the ford, and the Viper has such an easy-to-drive demeanor that you could just mash the throttle out of the corner. Neither of you should be complaining.

bro you and me both know that the stock setup will not get 12 laps on its tires at suzuka.................like you said earlier were not setting up hot lappers. and you didnt use the Weather change track.....and you ran a total of two laps. Is tire wear etc on. Why is the fuel and tire guages being cut out of the picture?


the Zonda does 49's with the default setup however..... you and me both know the default setup in the zonda will not get you 12 laps of tire wear.....

 

[Peter.]

Give the CLK a go. I bet you it'll be about a tenth or 2 even slower than these, at least, in stock form.

 

[luckylefty2gunz]

Test in racing mode? That doesn't even make sense to the argument being made. The test car and Zonda have clearly shown their superior pace. I get they're not 100% at stable full tilt. In the race you're taking a safe pace while I'm full tilt running 100% to match it. The cars are unbalanced, and we're making our argument to Jav.

im running the car as hard as i can to stay with the zonda's every lap you can watch my replay's i push as hard as the tires will allow all race it's the only chance i got they are fast

 

[Peter.]

im running the car as hard as i can to stay with the zonda's every lap you can watch my replay's i push as hard as the tires will allow all race it's the only chance i got they are fast

I drove that Ford, and I tell you, I could do 1:48's in it if I got the chance. Then again, my pace is that fast only over a single lap, but pushing it, I can do times like that for about 3 or 4 laps until tyre wear kicks in and makes it more difficult to keep on the road. I think that high 49's are possible race pace for the Ford. Lucky, we've all tested the Ford for ourselves as well, and we have, with our honest opinions, believe that it is far too good of a car, like Veloci said, may or may not be fastest over a single lap, but it's easiness to drive fast in, and great tyre wear, makes it an unbeatable car. The Zonda, from what I can see, is a car that is mighty over a single lap, but in the race, you have to be very careful and gingerly so as to keep the consistent pace the Ford has, and that is made even harder because of the high tyre wear it has. Every other car is a fair way back.

I had to make crazy setup changes to the CLK, as well as push it beyond what it should be capable of, to get it to within a second of your car. And I couldn't even dream of doing that pace la pafter lap in a race, because thanks to my extreme setup, and the fact that I had to drive the wheels off of the car, tyre wear suffers. It's also going to kill you if you drive it with any damage. I'd give an arm and a leg for a better car, but i've got no options, unless Magz wants to switch cars.

 

[smokedogg]

A little off topic...but this series got no metion from Jordan but masi's did.....

We gets no love lol

 

[Blaze_409]

A little off topic...but this series got no metion from Jordan but masi's did.....

We gets no love lol

Lol I just noticed

 

[tissimo]

I'm not saying the cars aren't quick, but not as quick as the zonda/Test car. On a perfect lap high 49s are possible, but again perfect lap. You and Mag's both were easily deep 49s consistently.

I dont remember Indy times, but I think every track the zonda and test car have been around 1 second faster. I'm not asking for a lot, but I think another look into the balance of the cars and maybe a hp/weight adjustment.

 

[VELOCI_2NR]

I'm not saying the cars aren't quick, but not as quick as the zonda/Test car. On a perfect lap high 49s are possible, but again perfect lap. You and Mag's both were easily deep 49s consistently.

I dont remember Indy times, but I think every track the zonda and test car have been around 1 second faster. I'm not asking for a lot, but I think another look into the balance of the cars and maybe a hp/weight adjustment.

At indy, all the cars seemed very close together, imho. We all were doing low 23s, and iirc, you ran fast lap.

 

[Blaze_409]

At indy, all the cars seemed very close together, imho. We all were doing low 23s, and iirc, you ran fast lap.

Well fast lap doesn't mean much imo . Tissimo was the last person to pit of the leaders I believe. And lets face it......if you hadn't mysteriously collected damage in the last two stints you would have set fast lap and finished better than 4th place. In the second stint at Indy after the first pit stop you stayed on my tail just out of the draft with a damaged car.......I don't really have an answer to that lol.

 

[VELOCI_2NR]

Well fast lap doesn't mean much IMO. Tissimo was the last person to pit of the leaders I believe. And lets face it......if you hadn't mysteriously collected damage in your last 2 stints

I wasnt fast on that track, like at all. I qualified 4th and finished 4th, so some cars are just good on some tracks and other cars are good on other tracks. I really don't think we should be having such a discussion about this.

 

[Blaze_409]

I wasnt fast on that track, like at all. I qualified 4th and finished 4th.

The 11 people who finished behind you would say otherwise
When I finish 4th thats a victory for me against you guys lol... If i ever win a race i might have to actually throw a party because thats not likely lol. you gots high standards lol.

 

[luckylefty2gunz]

The 11 people who finished behind you would say otherwise

i just want to say that i have to push as hard as possible just to stay close to the Zonda's i have to run qualifying laps to stay with you Zonda's 👎
and that's why i have wrecked twice costing me two victories and with you running as many laps on tires your car is unmatched. but with that said i still say the cars have been tested and chosen, now let's get back to racing what kinda times are you guys seeing at Daytona? 1:37.5 is as fast as the ford can go with me driving...

 

[Blaze_409]

i just want to say that i have to push as hard as possible just to stay close to the Zonda's i have to run qualifying laps to stay with you Zonda's 👎
and that's why i have wrecked twice costing me two victories and with you running as many laps on tires your car is unmatched. but with that said i still say the cars have been tested and chosen, now let's get back to racing what kinda times are you guys seeing at Daytona? 1:37.5 is as fast as the ford can go with me driving...

I ran a 1:36.3 in your Ford GT test car . 36's seem to be the norm for that car. i was kind hangin around a 1:36.8. and the Zonda appears to be doing 1:35's......So its just going to be another Zonda white wash..i could only get my lm race car to do a 1:37.0

 

[freshseth83]

Vettes are good here, very fast down the straights. Daytona is good for the big muscle of the american V8's.

 

[toyotsupra]

Vettes are good here, very fast down the straights. Daytona is good for the big muscle of the american V8's.

What times were you getting around here I'm hoping that the long straights will play to the car strengths and hopefully be more competive around here then it was at Suzka.

 

[freshseth83]

1:34's in another series, but that was 1100kg.