GTP's Hot Version Touge Showdown
- Thread starter Mat123
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- GTP_Orido
We should simplify to these FWD, AWD and RWD ( all engine location ), 200/300/400/500/600 HP class ?
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- big_noobowski924
Just to note, lol I am ready for anything at the moment lol. I have a single viper that meets all requirements. 600hp, <200k cr and is on SS tires. Still less than a second slower than my 2.0 Tmax ACR that had over 900hp. Btw: Onboy I used a few of your settings and suggestions. Actually, I used your entire Diff setup but I will make sure it is noted in my entry sheet that the whole car is based of your tune you provieded me. Also It will be on share if you wish to try it out. It is a politely fast car.
Onboy123
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- Onboy123
I know, you told me about it
As for the credit, don't give me too much, just a simple line is enough.
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- big_noobowski924
Honestly, If you get a chance to drive the latest 600hp Viper SRT10 Coupe(NOT ACR) you'll see why I'm giving you so much credit. This thing is reminiscent of your C5 Corvette tune I tried from your home garage, At least to my thumbs it is 
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Onboy123
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Honestly, If you get a chance to drive the latest 600hp Viper SRT10 Coupe(NOT ACR) you'll see why I'm giving you so much credit. This thing is reminiscent of your C5 Corvette tune I tried from your home garage, At least to my thumbs it is
Well my C5 GTO (I might use that here actually) was loose "race car-esque" nutter which quite happily walks the line between grip and oversteer so I assume yours is the same?
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- big_noobowski924
very close. Well the 600hp version is. 725, 850 and 986(are the other three iirc) all are a lot harder to keep on the line.
Disclaimer to all testers: My Touge tunes are all very tail happy.
Disclaimer to all testers: My Touge tunes are all very tail happy.
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- big_noobowski924
I use alot of e-brake in my runs. I initiate a drift like I were drifting but instead of carrying through and linking the next turn I regain grip and am off on my way lol. Usually, the only difference between my Driftcars and my Race cars is that the drifters get a higher angle than my racers as opposed to a higher speed.
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- big_noobowski924
Lol. Idk why but thats always been how I drive my street cars. Even your C5 GTO took well to my style. I'm still tuning my SRT10 Coupe. It doesn't take near as much e-brake use to get sideways as my previous VIpers so maybe it will be my transition from a Drift/Rally type approach to driving/tuning a more Grip oriented.
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I ironed out the small bugs on this car it's one of my best creations, You guys are gonna have fun with it! Ill put up build specs later. now start work on t200 or t-ultralight which ever gets decided.
*Touge master challenge each tuner uses same car same parts therefore tuning is only separating factor just an idea I came up with, whilst reading the 86's results from t300 small differences.
*Touge master challenge each tuner uses same car same parts therefore tuning is only separating factor just an idea I came up with, whilst reading the 86's results from t300 small differences.
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- thaSTIGroe
Is TMAX now a 600hp limit?
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I don't believe so....
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- FD3S_Mat
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Nope. However, season 3 will have a few changes, so stay tuned for that.
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- SolidSnake7735
I propose a 500hp limit.
Why? For the sake of fairness and balance. At that power limit you almost eliminate the R35 as its just over that in stock form. Even though in real life you would not have such a limit, you have to remember that GT5 isn't real life and as a game it'd limited in realism. Most of the flaws of heavy 4WD cars aren't present, like brake fading for example.
Also, Sports Hard tires implemented across the board for T200-500... Makes it more interesting, if you ask me, to see what the tuners can do when asked to push those tires to the limit. I feel that Sports Soft tires are too easy/lazy to tune for at such low power.
Rotary Junkie
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I want what you're having.
300hp? Fine on hards, might be a bit slippery but nothing that can't be tuned out.
350hp or so, hards get sketchy and start becoming more of a fight to put power down than anything else, mediums are right around their "comfortable" limit.
400hp, hards will just cause fits, mediums are starting to give up the ghost as far as competent grip levels go, and softs are pretty much just right.
At 500hp, hards are pretty much as useful as tits on a frog, mediums not much better, and softs will still be a bit white-knuckle, albeit drivable.
Of course, I'm referring to RWD cars here. AWD takes all that and throws it out the window, remaining drivable straight up to 900+hp in the case of an RS6 or R35 on softs and controllable probably to around 700 on hards. Obviously, braking and cornering ability isn't really keeping up with how much speed you can build in a very short time at that point, but traction isn't a problem.
Basically, going with a 500hp cap on hards doesn't change the problem of TMax as it stands; it changes what the king is (it'd probably become a Kia instead of the R35 thanks to lower weight) but not the fact that no 2WD vehicle has even a snowball's chance in hell of keeping up on a "touge" course at those power levels on those tires. The less grip and/or more power you have, the bigger advantage AWD becomes.
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- IAmTheWhiteDeath
The GT-Rs are still very competitive at stock power, which is below 500 horses. They destroy nearly everything I have at 550PP at their stock power, which includes many cars above 500 horses. "Fairness and balance" doesn't mean anything as long as there is still a GT-R.
The Subarus would probably reign king, yes. The flaw isn't in a power limit but in the drivetrain limit. AWDs naturally perform better at the same power on hard tires because they naturally have more grip. I don't think a power limit will solve this. Maybe we'll have to look into drivetrain limited events.
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- IAmTheWhiteDeath
I'll likely run FF class because I can be competitive.
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- thaSTIGroe
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